(11-30-2017 11:33 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:39 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Arkansas is waiting on something for sure. Their search has been a lot quieter than Ut. Maybe that’s because they don’t have an AD in place.

That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

Its not twitter. It was reported in the Arkansas papers. I'm not going to lay all of it back out there again, but it was well documented on multiple levels of being a cluster. The only reason its gone quiet now is due to the hiring of the search firms.

The only reason its gone quiet now is due to rogue boosters have stopped attempting to act on behalf of the university.

Arkansas being quiet but proclaiming they will have a coach by next week is worrisome.

That could indicate they already have a coach who still has a game to play.

(11-30-2017 11:38 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Arkansas being quiet but proclaiming they will have a coach by next week is worrisome.

That could indicate they already have a coach who still has a game to play.

Yep. Hope it's not our coach.

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:39 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Arkansas is waiting on something for sure. Their search has been a lot quieter than Ut. Maybe that’s because they don’t have an AD in place.

That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

No, it is confusion because it is clearly confusion. I live in Fayetteville and it is well known up here that the athletic department is in complete chaos. It is not hard to figure out. It is fine if you are a Razorback fan and in denial but it does not change the facts. There is no AD and not clear leadership, the Chancellor and Peoples are running a search (which they believe is the official search), the big money boosters are split and "running" their own separate searches (part of that split is on Norvell, one group loves him and the other does not like him because the others love him) each of which believes they get to hire the coach and to try and reconcile it all they now hired a search firm (which Peoples said was not going to happen from the get go).

It is not a mess because twitter says, I do not even have a twitter account, but because it is clearly a mess with very clear divisions of power players. Why you are at it, you might as well try to convince us that UTK is running a solid search and not a mess either...

(11-30-2017 11:37 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:33 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:39 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Arkansas is waiting on something for sure. Their search has been a lot quieter than Ut. Maybe that’s because they don’t have an AD in place.

That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

Its not twitter. It was reported in the Arkansas papers. I'm not going to lay all of it back out there again, but it was well documented on multiple levels of being a cluster. The only reason its gone quiet now is due to the hiring of the search firms.

The only reason its gone quiet now is due to rogue boosters have stopped attempting to act on behalf of the university.

Ya, that hasn't stopped...

Of all the self loathing, also ran, SEC mental institutions Tennessee is a much better gig than Arkansas in terms of potential.

(11-30-2017 11:44 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:39 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Arkansas is waiting on something for sure. Their search has been a lot quieter than Ut. Maybe that’s because they don’t have an AD in place.

That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

No, it is confusion because it is clearly confusion. I live in Fayetteville and it is well known up here that the athletic department is in complete chaos. It is not hard to figure out. It is fine if you are a Razorback fan and in denial but it does not change the facts. There is no AD and not clear leadership, the Chancellor and Peoples are running a search (which they believe is the official search), the big money boosters are split and "running" their own separate searches (part of that split is on Norvell, one group loves him and the other does not like him because the others love him) each of which believes they get to hire the coach and to try and reconcile it all they now hired a search firm (which Peoples said was not going to happen from the get go).

It is not a mess because twitter says, I do not even have a twitter account, but because it is clearly a mess with very clear divisions of power players. Why you are at it, you might as well try to convince us that UTK is running a solid search and not a mess either...

I clearly stated the 'confusion' is a result of rogue boosters who want to be in charge but do not represent the university.

(11-30-2017 11:38 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Arkansas being quiet but proclaiming they will have a coach by next week is worrisome.

That could indicate they already have a coach who still has a game to play.

They have been saying from the beginning. Nothing new to indicate they have an actual hire at this point.

(11-30-2017 11:46 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:44 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:39 AM)Tiger57 Wrote:  Arkansas is waiting on something for sure. Their search has been a lot quieter than Ut. Maybe that’s because they don’t have an AD in place.

That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

No, it is confusion because it is clearly confusion. I live in Fayetteville and it is well known up here that the athletic department is in complete chaos. It is not hard to figure out. It is fine if you are a Razorback fan and in denial but it does not change the facts. There is no AD and not clear leadership, the Chancellor and Peoples are running a search (which they believe is the official search), the big money boosters are split and "running" their own separate searches (part of that split is on Norvell, one group loves him and the other does not like him because the others love him) each of which believes they get to hire the coach and to try and reconcile it all they now hired a search firm (which Peoples said was not going to happen from the get go).

It is not a mess because twitter says, I do not even have a twitter account, but because it is clearly a mess with very clear divisions of power players. Why you are at it, you might as well try to convince us that UTK is running a solid search and not a mess either...

I clearly stated the 'confusion' is a result of rogue boosters who want to be in charge but do not represent the university.

You should reread what you wrote. You implied there is no real confusion in the search for their head coach but rather the only confused are fans relying on twitter. Why would boosters calling coaches be an NCAA violation?

How pathetic does a arkansas have to be to hope a coach loses so they can hire him.

Really kinda funny.

(11-30-2017 11:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:46 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:44 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:04 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:49 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  That is because it has been mass confusion with nobody really knowing who is actually running their search. Plus, with the debacle in Knoxville it has helped tremendously to keep the spotlight off of Arkansas...

So you do not know who is running their search and you call it 'confusion'.
Rogue boosters making calls to 'connections', not in official roles and it is presented as 'confusion' by agents of those who stand to benefit from perceived 'confusion'.

The only 'confused' are those who rely on twitter as their sources.

No, it is confusion because it is clearly confusion. I live in Fayetteville and it is well known up here that the athletic department is in complete chaos. It is not hard to figure out. It is fine if you are a Razorback fan and in denial but it does not change the facts. There is no AD and not clear leadership, the Chancellor and Peoples are running a search (which they believe is the official search), the big money boosters are split and "running" their own separate searches (part of that split is on Norvell, one group loves him and the other does not like him because the others love him) each of which believes they get to hire the coach and to try and reconcile it all they now hired a search firm (which Peoples said was not going to happen from the get go).

It is not a mess because twitter says, I do not even have a twitter account, but because it is clearly a mess with very clear divisions of power players. Why you are at it, you might as well try to convince us that UTK is running a solid search and not a mess either...

I clearly stated the 'confusion' is a result of rogue boosters who want to be in charge but do not represent the university.

You should reread what you wrote. You implied there is no real confusion in the search for their head coach but rather the only confused are fans relying on twitter. Why would boosters calling coaches be an NCAA violation?

Not an Ark fan.

I clearly stated I doubt the people running the official search are confused. The confusion is a result of mixed messages from different 'search' representatives who are likely attempting to undermine the current official search team.

Boosters trying to flip a coach with out permission from either side is a lack of institutional control/oversight.

(11-30-2017 10:37 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  So much has happened in 48 hours.

Yes, Tennessee has hired 10 coaches since then...or at least tried to.

Latest update from footballscoop.com:

"Arkansas has made no secret of its desire for native son Gus Malzahn to come home. Malzahn is set to coach Auburn in the SEC Championship on Saturday, and the belief in Fayetteville is that, should Auburn lose to Georgia, Arkansas still has a great shot at landing Malzahn.

In response to Arkansas’s interest and Auburn’s ongoing 10-2 season — highlighted by dominant wins over No. 1 Georgia and No. 1 Alabama in a 3-week span — sources told FootballScoop that Malzahn’s camp has presented a package to Auburn president Steven Leath to keep him in blue and orange, and it’s our understanding the ask is substantial."

(11-30-2017 11:20 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:17 AM)TonyDaTiger Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:07 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 10:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The end of the week is tomorrow. So they better have an announcement about a news conference today. Unless its going to be Julie, I kind of doubt it.

This AD thing is interesting.

If Auburn loses, and they are able to go after Malzahn, then one of the draws to lure Gus is to give Gus' input, some say veto power, on the new AD. Especially with the uncertain AD situation at Auburn. You know, maybe say Gus gets to have Tuberville as his AD.

If Auburn wins, and they offer Norvell, Norvell of course gets no such power over the AD search. Affects the timing of any announcement. Not sure what Arkansas does. Announcing the search firm is a good stalling tactic. New AD is not going to make the coach decision anyway.

What if AU plays a great game and loses on a last second field goal? It the 'Gus Bus' still going to Ark?

Malzahn told me that in that particular case he would've come to Memphis as OC, but that was before he found out many of the Memphis message board posters constantly create corny-ass puns and nicknames for every coach/team in vain attempts to be clever/cute.

Says 'TonyDaTiger'. smh

Just so you are informed and do not embarrass yourself again, Auburn football fans refer to Malzahn's offense as the 'Gus Bus'.

Hahaha, not bad. Fwiw my first name is Anthony and Da are the first two letters of my last name. Just worked out that way. Also if you check my join date, I made it 13 years ago when I was 17. Not a bad call out tho. Touche'

Word in Arkansas is essentially what is posted above, that Gus has now made is demands known to Auburn and he is asking for every penny in the bank supposedly... Also, reports that Leach has been contacted about the opening. Vegas has had him as a favorite from the beginning even though there has been little talk about him. However, there must be someone involved in the search with power that really likes him...

Thought the boosters wanted Gus or then Norvell - while it was the admin who wanted Morris/Venables.

(11-30-2017 10:32 AM)TonyDaTiger Wrote:  And even if they don't we may still lose him to Arkansas. Perhaps the best source for coaching search info is linked below. States the money folks at Arkansas are fixated on Malzahn and believe he is in play should Auburn lose to Georgia Saturday. If he's not or if he turns them down anyway, the plan B is Norvell. One ray of hope is the school reps seem to be honing in on Morris and Venables and have vetted them already (and since neither was hired at MS St. they are both still available).

Other very reliable sources locally claim Norvell would take Arkansas if offered and that he's even willing to wait (possibly already has been told the contingency situation) and is cool with waiting to find out.

Essentially Memphis fans should hope Georgia demolishes Auburn in the second most important game Saturday.


http://footballscoop.com/news/chatter-ar...vember-28/

Malzahn stays
Norvell stays

Soak your computer in cheese wiz

Hearing more Chad Morris to Ark rumors now ...