Fox Sports 1 lost 770k subscribers the last quarter, ESPN lost 990k.

(11-30-2017 02:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Fox Sports 1 lost 770k subscribers the last quarter, ESPN lost 990k.

And once gone, they're gone for good. So to figure out the hit to the brand value....take the per month payment (call it 15 dollars/month for ESPN and 3/dollars a month for FS1), and divide it by the monthly interest rate (5% per year - I'm using ESPN's likely hurdle rate).

So ESPN's income stream that they lost JUST LAST QUARTER was over 3.5 billion dollars. Wow! That's a lot of revenue. I'd be cutting a sh*tload of costs too if I were them. Even if you don't value the lost revenue as a perpetuity and simply assume that each customer will only stay with ESPN for 7 years (how long have you had ESPN?), then its still 1.2 Billion bucks.

And I think ESPN gets more than 15 bucks a month.

One of ESPN's problems now is that they're too big of a company to really pivot to where they need to be. They can do some programming changes and set changes. Bring in personalities for a bunch of money. None of that beats the fact that I can get all the highlights and sports news I want at anytime and any place, from 1,000 sources.

As far as coverage of college sports, they keep digging at the well of the top P5 teams and hoping they bring in more fans to their ESPNU shows than they have. I don't get why they don't try to be the allies of G5 conference programs that deserve respect.

(11-30-2017 11:02 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  One of ESPN's problems now is that they're too big of a company to really pivot to where they need to be. They can do some programming changes and set changes. Bring in personalities for a bunch of money. None of that beats the fact that I can get all the highlights and sports news I want at anytime and any place, from 1,000 sources.

As far as coverage of college sports, they keep digging at the well of the top P5 teams and hoping they bring in more fans to their ESPNU shows than they have. I don't get why they don't try to be the allies of G5 conference programs that deserve respect.

They need to lose channels like the SEC Network, The Longhorn Network and stop the ACC network, lose the NBA and MLB contracts, bring back ESPN Classic (cheaper to run reruns of sporting events), drop the ESPN news, lower the price per household for ESPN channels, and you will get back to normal. Plus get rid of the lousy controversial figures on that channel, and people will tune in again.

Agree 100%.

However, betting instead they will increase the visibility of the lousy controversial figures to make it even more like MTV Yo.

How many NFL games does ESPN broadcast per week?

(11-30-2017 03:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 02:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Fox Sports 1 lost 770k subscribers the last quarter, ESPN lost 990k.

And once gone, they're gone for good. So to figure out the hit to the brand value....take the per month payment (call it 15 dollars/month for ESPN and 3/dollars a month for FS1), and divide it by the monthly interest rate (5% per year - I'm using ESPN's likely hurdle rate).

So ESPN's income stream that they lost JUST LAST QUARTER was over 3.5 billion dollars. Wow! That's a lot of revenue. I'd be cutting a sh*tload of costs too if I were them. Even if you don't value the lost revenue as a perpetuity and simply assume that each customer will only stay with ESPN for 7 years (how long have you had ESPN?), then its still 1.2 Billion bucks.

And I think ESPN gets more than 15 bucks a month.

Ehh. They are gone for good until they find they cant get the sports they want for free on the internet.

Im convinced in the end, we will get some sort of a la carte model. Every network will probably cost more than it does now--but your cable/sat/streaming bill will still be less because you wont be buying a bunch of crap you don't want or watch.