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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
(12-02-2017 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Good catch on Fresno -- fixed. And fair point about Ohio State.

The thing about Ohio State vs Alabama, assuming Ohio State wins the CCG today ... If i switch their schedules, i can imagine Alabama having the wins that Ohio State has. For example, Alabama beating Wisconsin? Sure that could happen. Not 100% sure it would, but it's a plausible outcome if they play.

The one thing that doesn't compute is Ohio State losing by 31 to Iowa.

Could anyone here honestly say that they think there's any within-the-bounds-of-reason chance that Alabama would lose by 31 to Iowa? Not me.

So it has to be Alabama if it comes down to that.

Let's put it another way shall we. Ohio State didn't lose by 31 to Penn State, Michigan, or Michigan State. They lost to an also ran in the worst division in college football by 31 points and they lost at home by 15 to Oklahoma. The only reason they are still in the conversation is that ESPN is desperate for eyeballs from the Big 10.

Personally I think Wisconsin beats them today and ends this worthless talking point.

If Bama is to luck into a slot it would be because T.C.U. beats Oklahoma and Clemson destroys Miami.
12-02-2017 11:25 AM
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
(12-02-2017 11:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-02-2017 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Good catch on Fresno -- fixed. And fair point about Ohio State.

The thing about Ohio State vs Alabama, assuming Ohio State wins the CCG today ... If i switch their schedules, i can imagine Alabama having the wins that Ohio State has. For example, Alabama beating Wisconsin? Sure that could happen. Not 100% sure it would, but it's a plausible outcome if they play.

The one thing that doesn't compute is Ohio State losing by 31 to Iowa.

Could anyone here honestly say that they think there's any within-the-bounds-of-reason chance that Alabama would lose by 31 to Iowa? Not me.

So it has to be Alabama if it comes down to that.

Let's put it another way shall we. Ohio State didn't lose by 31 to Penn State, Michigan, or Michigan State. They lost to an also ran in the worst division in college football by 31 points and they lost at home by 15 to Oklahoma. The only reason they are still in the conversation is that ESPN is desperate for eyeballs from the Big 10.

Personally I think Wisconsin beats them today and ends this worthless talking point.

If Bama is to luck into a slot it would be because T.C.U. beats Oklahoma and Clemson destroys Miami.

Good point about Oklahoma. Excellent team, but hard to picture Alabama losing by 15 at home to them or anyone else either.
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
(12-02-2017 12:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-02-2017 11:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-02-2017 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Good catch on Fresno -- fixed. And fair point about Ohio State.

The thing about Ohio State vs Alabama, assuming Ohio State wins the CCG today ... If i switch their schedules, i can imagine Alabama having the wins that Ohio State has. For example, Alabama beating Wisconsin? Sure that could happen. Not 100% sure it would, but it's a plausible outcome if they play.

The one thing that doesn't compute is Ohio State losing by 31 to Iowa.

Could anyone here honestly say that they think there's any within-the-bounds-of-reason chance that Alabama would lose by 31 to Iowa? Not me.

So it has to be Alabama if it comes down to that.

Let's put it another way shall we. Ohio State didn't lose by 31 to Penn State, Michigan, or Michigan State. They lost to an also ran in the worst division in college football by 31 points and they lost at home by 15 to Oklahoma. The only reason they are still in the conversation is that ESPN is desperate for eyeballs from the Big 10.

Personally I think Wisconsin beats them today and ends this worthless talking point.

If Bama is to luck into a slot it would be because T.C.U. beats Oklahoma and Clemson destroys Miami.

Good point about Oklahoma. Excellent team, but hard to picture Alabama losing by 15 at home to them or anyone else either.

I think Alabama's defense would have beaten Oklahoma. But the reason Alabama has to hope for a break to get into the CFP is because we whipped them.

ESPN can't imagine a world that doesn't have Alabama and Ohio State in it. But as an Auburn guy who spent his younger years in Michigan, I live for a world without both every year! But don't count me a Wolverine fan. Duffy's Spartans were the second team back then. 04-cheers
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
Not shaping up well for Alabama so far - #3 Oklahoma won, and Georgia is leading Auburn at the half. In my opinion the Miami/Clemson result is irrelevant to Alabama, because one of them will still be in the Top 4 - I doubt it would be a case where Miami moves up to #5 after beating #1 Clemson, who would fall to #6, even in spite of Miami’s bad loss to Pittsburgh.

The only solution I see for Alabama to make it is to have both Auburn and Ohio State win. Ohio State moves up to #5, and Wisconsin falls below them. Alabama would then move up to #4:

1) Clemson (12-1, ACC champ)
2) Auburn (11-2, SEC champ)
3) Oklahoma (12-1, XII champ)
4) Alabama (11-1)
5) Ohio State (11-2, B1G champ)
6) Wisconsin (12-1)
7) Georgia (10-2)
8) Penn State (10-2)
9) USC (10-2)
10) Miami (10-2)
11) Washington (10-2)

Orange: Ohio State vs. Miami
Fiesta: Wisconsin vs. USC (PAC champ)
Peach: Georgia vs. UCF
Cotton: Penn State vs. Washington

If all of the Top 4 hold, then Penn State is probably headed to the Orange Bowl.
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
If Wisconsin loses, I'd put USC ahead of Alabama or Ohio State
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
(12-02-2017 06:11 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Not shaping up well for Alabama so far - #3 Oklahoma won, and Georgia is leading Auburn at the half. In my opinion the Miami/Clemson result is irrelevant to Alabama, because one of them will still be in the Top 4 - I doubt it would be a case where Miami moves up to #5 after beating #1 Clemson, who would fall to #6, even in spite of Miami’s bad loss to Pittsburgh.

The only solution I see for Alabama to make it is to have both Auburn and Ohio State win. Ohio State moves up to #5, and Wisconsin falls below them. Alabama would then move up to #4:

No question, Alabama, like every other team outside the top 4, needs someone in the top 4 to lose to have a chance to get in. As you say, the ACC title game is irrelevant because the winner will get in and the loser will fall out. Also, the SEC title game is similar, in that the winner also will get in and the loser fall out.

So that meant either Oklahoma or Wisconsin would have to lose, and since Oklahoma has won, Alabama's last chance is for Ohio State to beat Wisconsin. And that of course doesn't guarantee they get in, but it's a sure thing that if Wisconsin wins, they won't.
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
(12-02-2017 07:10 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-02-2017 06:11 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Not shaping up well for Alabama so far - #3 Oklahoma won, and Georgia is leading Auburn at the half. In my opinion the Miami/Clemson result is irrelevant to Alabama, because one of them will still be in the Top 4 - I doubt it would be a case where Miami moves up to #5 after beating #1 Clemson, who would fall to #6, even in spite of Miami’s bad loss to Pittsburgh.

The only solution I see for Alabama to make it is to have both Auburn and Ohio State win. Ohio State moves up to #5, and Wisconsin falls below them. Alabama would then move up to #4:

No question, Alabama, like every other team outside the top 4, needs someone in the top 4 to lose to have a chance to get in. As you say, the ACC title game is irrelevant because the winner will get in and the loser will fall out. Also, the SEC title game is similar, in that the winner also will get in and the loser fall out.

So that meant either Oklahoma or Wisconsin would have to lose, and since Oklahoma has won, Alabama's last chance is for Ohio State to beat Wisconsin. And that of course doesn't guarantee they get in, but it's a sure thing that if Wisconsin wins, they won't.

Well congratulations to Georgia. It was evident tonight that we just weren't healthy enough to represent the conference well going forward. Stove went out at half with the ankle sprain and Carlton Davis (all american quality defensive back) went down for the game if not the season in the first half as well. With Johnson obviously not at full speed I have to wonder how much rehab he's going to need moving forward.

So good luck to the Dawgs, much as I hate to say it!
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
Ohio State wins, so here’s the committee’s work for the morning:

1) How far Auburn falls (almost certainly out of the Top 4 with their third loss)
2) Haw far Wisconsin falls
3) How far Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio State rise now that #2 and #4 have gone down
4) Should Ohio State be ranked ahead of Wisconsin, Head-to-Head result notwithstanding?
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RE: In the CFP, how does 5-8 have a chance
1 big loser tonight is Notre Dame. They almost certainly won't be in the top 12 now, meaning they're out of the access bowls.
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(12-03-2017 04:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  1 big loser tonight is Notre Dame. They almost certainly won't be in the top 12 now, meaning they're out of the access bowls.

... and that's kind of a shame, as they should be in. They played arguably the toughest schedule in the country. One of their losses is to a playoff team, another is to a team that will finish in the top seven, and the third to a team that will finish around #18, and two of those were on the road.
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