(11-29-2017 11:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 11:18 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:22 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Based on Tubby’s performance (eg, only one NCAA Tourney win the past ten seasons), there is no evidence to suggest Tubby can restore the Tigers to relevancy. I do not see the Tigers contributing to the AAC’s pedigree under Tubby. Hopefully, we will not become an RPI anchor.

The good news is the infrastructure is in place for high level success.

Tubby and Ollie are very similar. Both gotta go.

At least UConn obtained a NC under Ollie. We have reaped nothing from Tubby except millions of dollars of cost for him and his son (one of the Assistant Coaches).

Tubby used his "win a National Championship with someone else's players" on Kentucky. They are the same person.

You just blew my mind.

Did Memphis and UConn play each other last year? Were both coaches in the same room at the same time?

If/when UConn and Memphis get back to their historical status, and if UC and WSU just keep doing what they do, and if Temple/UCF/Houston/SMU stay strong, the American will likely be a top 5 basketball conference.

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis will never be Memphis yall want with Tubby as coach. We might get to 20 wins some season but 18k in the seats wont happen while he is coach. The fanbase has checked out on him and itll be near impossible for him to get them back.

Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

(11-29-2017 08:56 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  As long as Haith shows progress (finishes around .600) this season, I'm fine with him staying. I don't think people understand how he's had to rebuild the team almost from the ground up. When Wojick was fired we didn't have all star talent. Some players left. Then having Danny Manning for just 2 years led to more roster upheaval. This resulted in having about 7 or 8 seniors graduate after Haith's 1st or 2nd season here. Haith and his staff ever since have been trying to balance out the roster I believe. Bringing in Juco's when necessary/possible and what-not. Still, this roster is young, and it's just going to take time. I'd hate for us to nip a good thing in the bud before it comes to fruition.

Now, that being said...if we finish below .500 this season Haith probably needs to go unless it is due to mass injuries on the roster or something.

No. It's not. 3 seniors (one a redshirt), 3 Juniors, 3 Sophomores (one a redshirt), and 2 freshman. Youth is not an excuse for Haith.

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis will never be Memphis yall want with Tubby as coach. We might get to 20 wins some season but 18k in the seats wont happen while he is coach. The fanbase has checked out on him and itll be near impossible for him to get them back.

Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

(11-29-2017 02:32 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis will never be Memphis yall want with Tubby as coach. We might get to 20 wins some season but 18k in the seats wont happen while he is coach. The fanbase has checked out on him and itll be near impossible for him to get them back.

Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

You must be doing that new common core math because his is correct :-)
Since 1982 (Keith Lee's freshman year)- 35 years
21 NCAAs
10 sweet 16s
5 elite 8s
2 final 4s
1 runner up

(11-29-2017 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:32 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Memphis will never be Memphis yall want with Tubby as coach. We might get to 20 wins some season but 18k in the seats wont happen while he is coach. The fanbase has checked out on him and itll be near impossible for him to get them back.

Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

You must be doing that new common core math because his is correct :-)
Since 1982 (Keith Lee's freshman year)- 35 years
21 NCAAs
10 sweet 16s
5 elite 8s
2 final 4s
1 runner up

You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

(11-29-2017 03:08 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:32 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

You must be doing that new common core math because his is correct :-)
Since 1982 (Keith Lee's freshman year)- 35 years
21 NCAAs
10 sweet 16s
5 elite 8s
2 final 4s
1 runner up

You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

(11-29-2017 03:08 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:32 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 10:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby.

Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

You must be doing that new common core math because his is correct :-)
Since 1982 (Keith Lee's freshman year)- 35 years
21 NCAAs
10 sweet 16s
5 elite 8s
2 final 4s
1 runner up

You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

If you aint cheating you aint trying.

(11-29-2017 03:24 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 03:08 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:32 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 02:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Historically(Since 1980) we make 5-6 tourneys a decade, make the sweet 16 twice a decade, and the Elite 8/Final 4 once a decade.

Tubby will not do any of that.

Our math doesn't quite match up. Which is most of what I'm getting at anyway.

You must be doing that new common core math because his is correct :-)
Since 1982 (Keith Lee's freshman year)- 35 years
21 NCAAs
10 sweet 16s
5 elite 8s
2 final 4s
1 runner up

You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

If you aint cheating you aint trying.

Which brings me back to: "Memphis will never be the Memphis you want with Tubby."

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(11-29-2017 03:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  @C_Austin_Cox
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Ever wanted to ask Mike Aresco a question? This is your chance. The American Athletic Conference Commissioner will be appearing on the @AAC_Daily on @BCSNN Thursday and we'll ask him 5 listener questions on air. #POW6R

Hot Damn. Can't wait.

(11-29-2017 03:08 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

sorry man, watched it all with my own 2 eyes. Don't care what *s are there or what record books say.

(11-29-2017 08:26 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Lebo is locked up until 2020-21! YAY!!!!!

We're free! We're free!

(11-29-2017 03:52 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 03:08 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  You must be doing that delusional, rules-are-optional math.

15 NCAAs
5 sweet 16s
3 elite 8s
0 final 4s
0 runner up

sorry man, watched it all with my own 2 eyes. Don't care what *s are there or what record books say.

So if you cheat and it still happened, then nothing else matters?

You’re making Carolina fans proud.

(11-29-2017 02:19 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 08:56 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  As long as Haith shows progress (finishes around .600) this season, I'm fine with him staying. I don't think people understand how he's had to rebuild the team almost from the ground up. When Wojick was fired we didn't have all star talent. Some players left. Then having Danny Manning for just 2 years led to more roster upheaval. This resulted in having about 7 or 8 seniors graduate after Haith's 1st or 2nd season here. Haith and his staff ever since have been trying to balance out the roster I believe. Bringing in Juco's when necessary/possible and what-not. Still, this roster is young, and it's just going to take time. I'd hate for us to nip a good thing in the bud before it comes to fruition.

Now, that being said...if we finish below .500 this season Haith probably needs to go unless it is due to mass injuries on the roster or something.

No. It's not. 3 seniors (one a redshirt), 3 Juniors, 3 Sophomores (one a redshirt), and 2 freshman. Youth is not an excuse for Haith.

Well shoot, they are older than I thought. Didn't realize it since 2 of the Sr's and 1 Jr. are Juco's. However one of the Sr's. (Henderson) comes off the bench as does one of the Jr's (Artison). And the other Jr (Foree) I don't think plays much at all.

All that to say...they get a lot of contribution from the younger guys. Youth is still a factor on this team.