(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 10:12 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  He did pretty well for himself through all of this. New 5 year contract at $3,000,000 per season.

No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 10:12 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  He did pretty well for himself through all of this. New 5 year contract at $3,000,000 per season.

No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 10:12 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  He did pretty well for himself through all of this. New 5 year contract at $3,000,000 per season.

No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

(12-02-2017 11:23 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 10:12 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  He did pretty well for himself through all of this. New 5 year contract at $3,000,000 per season.

No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

Ok but I guess under that premise, if an AD knew it was going to be a challenge in a competitive conference, and if the goal was to be 15-25, he could find someone to do that for a lot less than 3 mil a season I would think. NC State has been pretty mediocre for forever not just 10 seasons. I even remember when Chuck Amato was there and his record was kinda similar to Doeren before he was dismissed. He was a an Alum too and as I recall they gave him a long leash before they let him go. The avg tenure of a college football coach is around 5-6 years before he gets hired away, or dismissed. He is in his fifth year and I guess if NC State hired him to be 15-25, then he has done that so far. He seems like a nice man but seems rare that a coach gets that kind of bump in light of that record. I certainly would not turn it down.

(12-03-2017 01:18 AM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 11:23 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

Ok but I guess under that premise, if an AD knew it was going to be a challenge in a competitive conference, and if the goal was to be 15-25, he could find someone to do that for a lot less than 3 mil a season I would think. NC State has been pretty mediocre for forever not just 10 seasons. I even remember when Chuck Amato was there and his record was kinda similar to Doeren before he was dismissed. He was a an Alum too and as I recall they gave him a long leash before they let him go. The avg tenure of a college football coach is around 5-6 years before he gets hired away, or dismissed. He is in his fifth year and I guess if NC State hired him to be 15-25, then he has done that so far. He seems like a nice man but seems rare that a coach gets that kind of bump in light of that record. I certainly would not turn it down.

Maybe they see progress and think it's a good investment. Are they getting better recruits? More competitive teams? Times have changed and head coaches aren't usually given as much time to start winning. Sometimes it takes more than 2-3 years to turn around a program that has not had too much success in their past. Some stability at head coach level will make some recruits look at a school more seriously. If NC State thinks Doeren is the type of coach that can finally produce a consistent winner, they are willing to take a risk and give him extra incentive to stay.

DD's greatest move was becoming NIU coach. He actively pursued this job and he parlays that move into 20 mil. Good for him, glad he was here.

(12-03-2017 01:18 AM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 11:23 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 02:12 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  No kidding. 5 yr at 3 mil for a 33-30 record?
NCS are losing alot on defense this year so next year will be interesting.

I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

Ok but I guess under that premise, if an AD knew it was going to be a challenge in a competitive conference, and if the goal was to be 15-25, he could find someone to do that for a lot less than 3 mil a season I would think. NC State has been pretty mediocre for forever not just 10 seasons. I even remember when Chuck Amato was there and his record was kinda similar to Doeren before he was dismissed. He was a an Alum too and as I recall they gave him a long leash before they let him go. The avg tenure of a college football coach is around 5-6 years before he gets hired away, or dismissed. He is in his fifth year and I guess if NC State hired him to be 15-25, then he has done that so far. He seems like a nice man but seems rare that a coach gets that kind of bump in light of that record. I certainly would not turn it down.

I really think Coach Doeren is a top 5 coach in FBS.

(12-03-2017 12:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 01:18 AM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 11:23 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

Ok but I guess under that premise, if an AD knew it was going to be a challenge in a competitive conference, and if the goal was to be 15-25, he could find someone to do that for a lot less than 3 mil a season I would think. NC State has been pretty mediocre for forever not just 10 seasons. I even remember when Chuck Amato was there and his record was kinda similar to Doeren before he was dismissed. He was a an Alum too and as I recall they gave him a long leash before they let him go. The avg tenure of a college football coach is around 5-6 years before he gets hired away, or dismissed. He is in his fifth year and I guess if NC State hired him to be 15-25, then he has done that so far. He seems like a nice man but seems rare that a coach gets that kind of bump in light of that record. I certainly would not turn it down.

I really think Coach Doeren is a top 5 coach in FBS.

So you are saying Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, Jimbo Fisher and Dave Doeren? I think that is rating him a little high.

(12-03-2017 12:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 01:18 AM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 11:23 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:15 PM)leguptopee Wrote:  

(12-02-2017 10:05 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  I agree, some would argue that they underachieved this season as they had several senior starters. Next year will be quite interesting indeed.

Not many coaches can go 15-25 in any conference and get a raise and a contract extension. Must be good to be Dave.

OR - must be a challenge for NCState football to remain competitive in a competitive conference.
How many conf titles or winning seasons did wolfpack have the ten seasons prior to doeren?

Ok but I guess under that premise, if an AD knew it was going to be a challenge in a competitive conference, and if the goal was to be 15-25, he could find someone to do that for a lot less than 3 mil a season I would think. NC State has been pretty mediocre for forever not just 10 seasons. I even remember when Chuck Amato was there and his record was kinda similar to Doeren before he was dismissed. He was a an Alum too and as I recall they gave him a long leash before they let him go. The avg tenure of a college football coach is around 5-6 years before he gets hired away, or dismissed. He is in his fifth year and I guess if NC State hired him to be 15-25, then he has done that so far. He seems like a nice man but seems rare that a coach gets that kind of bump in light of that record. I certainly would not turn it down.

I really think Coach Doeren is a top 5 coach in FBS.

His record does not really indicate that but everyone can have an opinion.

(11-29-2017 12:43 AM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  when was the last time NC State won 8 games in a season?

Doeren's record at NC State (at least until this year) is no better than the coach they fired to hire Doeren. I don't hate the guy or even dislike the guy but I am not at all impressed by him. He rode the wave called Chandler Harnish (in 2011) and Jordan Lynch & became a millionaire.

NC State coach Tom OBrien coached from 2007-2012 and his record was 40 - 36.

Dave Doeren took his place & his record is 33 - 30. 2013 he was 3-9, 2014 8-5, 2015 7-6, 2016 7-6, and 2017 8-4.
Nothing outstanding. Pretty mediocre actually.

(11-30-2017 08:22 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 12:54 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  Doeren is being targeted by Tennessee now after missing on several candidates. Must be a huge pay raise to get into that mess.

I DD also. Yeah, you can second guess not going for a safety in the Iowa-Soldier Field game...and owes JL a LOT. But overall he seemed very prepared and ran the program in his short stay here like Coach Joe would have.

I've said before, he really rallied the team down 20-0 at half of the MACC vs Ohio. And for that

I also wonder if he really wants to uproot his family and get into a "VOLatile" situation like Tennessee for the extra $$.

I think that was all Chandler.
If NIU had not had those 2 outstanding QBs...Doeren is not at NC State today.

(12-03-2017 06:22 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 08:22 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 12:54 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  Doeren is being targeted by Tennessee now after missing on several candidates. Must be a huge pay raise to get into that mess.

I DD also. Yeah, you can second guess not going for a safety in the Iowa-Soldier Field game...and owes JL a LOT. But overall he seemed very prepared and ran the program in his short stay here like Coach Joe would have.

I've said before, he really rallied the team down 20-0 at half of the MACC vs Ohio. And for that

I also wonder if he really wants to uproot his family and get into a "VOLatile" situation like Tennessee for the extra $$.

I think that was all Chandler.
If NIU had not had those 2 outstanding QBs...Doeren is not at NC State today.

Sorry, I love CH but the first half he played like a "deer in headlights" and also had an Ohio player drop a sure interception. NaPalm really made some plays and was MVP.

The D SHUTOUT Ohio in the 2nd half which got the momentum going our way. Including that interception by Jimmy Freakin' Ward.

( A missed FG and curious play calling by Solich didn't hurt either )

(12-03-2017 06:18 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:43 AM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  when was the last time NC State won 8 games in a season?

Doeren's record at NC State (at least until this year) is no better than the coach they fired to hire Doeren. I don't hate the guy or even dislike the guy but I am not at all impressed by him. He rode the wave called Chandler Harnish (in 2011) and Jordan Lynch & became a millionaire.

NC State coach Tom OBrien coached from 2007-2012 and his record was 40 - 36.

Dave Doeren took his place & his record is 33 - 30. 2013 he was 3-9, 2014 8-5, 2015 7-6, 2016 7-6, and 2017 8-4.
Nothing outstanding. Pretty mediocre actually.

lol