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RE: Woodfin's Latest Comments on the Stadium
Birmingham will be broke by February.
11-28-2017 09:11 PM
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RE: Woodfin's Latest Comments on the Stadium
(11-28-2017 08:56 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 08:40 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 08:16 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
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(11-28-2017 06:34 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Just because the plan for the stadium at the BJCC, including all the projected budget numbers, has not been published does not mean that it hasn't been discussed and planned.

Pumping $25m into Legion Field is a waste of money that the city can't afford to piss away.
Some ideas seem innocent but trace the idea to it's source and you won't be surprised.

William Parker?
I have my doubts .....but we'll see. In other words why in the ham & cheese would this be a viable option after years of the park & rec board saying the gray lady is falling apart. If the city was going go this route, it would have been done years ago.....why now????????????????????????????????????????????

What are your insinuating?

The only thing standing in UABs way is the deal for the new stadium downtown. After the long court battle some how we now have competing ideas about what to do concerning a new stadium downtown versus putting more money into legion field. The latter idea was no where to be found until the downtown stadium became a real distinct possibility. If the city pour millions into legion field gets what happens for the project slated for downtown.....nothing. This doesn't smell right...at least not to me.
11-28-2017 10:05 PM
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RE: Woodfin's Latest Comments on the Stadium
And Woodies friends get their palms greased.
11-28-2017 10:08 PM
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(11-28-2017 09:05 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  I'm all for the city revitalizing that area, but it sounds like this $25M is intended to spent directly on the stadium in hopes of keeping Legion Field alive as the only stadium.

The city should build a new stadium, demolish Legion Field, and turn the space into a really nice park with some new housing.

By itself, B'ham can't build a major project like ether of the proposed replacements for Legion Field. No city can at today's costs of construction. It will take a combined effort by several funding sources to build any such new facility. When that new facility is "on line" and open for business, Legion Field can then be demolished if that is deemed the best choice. Until that time, it is the only large game (site) in town so the city must keep it useable and upkeep on any old building is expensive.

Many newer stadiums have come and gone in the last few decades. The Kingdome, the GA Dome, the Metrodome, Three Rivers Stadium, Cowboy's stadium, Yankee Stadium to name a few. They have all been replaced by very expensive new, usually larger facilities often built by combined municipal and private funding - usually for naming rights. The BJCC stadium would be bucking this trend by replacing a larger facility with one less than 70% of the older facility's capacity.
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11-28-2017 10:11 PM
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RE: Woodfin's Latest Comments on the Stadium
(11-28-2017 10:11 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 09:05 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  I'm all for the city revitalizing that area, but it sounds like this $25M is intended to spent directly on the stadium in hopes of keeping Legion Field alive as the only stadium.

The city should build a new stadium, demolish Legion Field, and turn the space into a really nice park with some new housing.

By itself, B'ham can't build a major project like ether of the proposed replacements for Legion Field. No city can at today's costs of construction. It will take a combined effort by several funding sources to build any such new facility. When that new facility is "on line" and open for business, Legion Field can then be demolished if that is deemed the best choice. Until that time, it is the only large game (site) in town so the city must keep it useable and upkeep on any old building is expensive.

Many newer stadiums have come and gone in the last few decades. The Kingdome, the GA Dome, the Metrodome, Three Rivers Stadium, Cowboy's stadium, Yankee Stadium to name a few. They have all been replaced by very expensive new, usually larger facilities often built by combined municipal and private funding - usually for naming rights. The BJCC stadium would be bucking this trend by replacing a larger facility with one less than 70% of the older facility's capacity.

It's been stated many times that Jeffco, UAB, and the corporate community are all on board. The exact terms of what each is contributing aren't going to be laid out here on Blazertalk. But just know each of those entities is committed to the project ($$$) and everyone is just waiting on the city. Literally no one is asking the city of birmingham to pay for this alone.
11-28-2017 10:24 PM
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The tax benefit for the city in itself would justify the new stadium.
11-28-2017 10:26 PM
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(11-28-2017 10:24 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 10:11 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 09:05 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  I'm all for the city revitalizing that area, but it sounds like this $25M is intended to spent directly on the stadium in hopes of keeping Legion Field alive as the only stadium.

The city should build a new stadium, demolish Legion Field, and turn the space into a really nice park with some new housing.

By itself, B'ham can't build a major project like ether of the proposed replacements for Legion Field. No city can at today's costs of construction. It will take a combined effort by several funding sources to build any such new facility. When that new facility is "on line" and open for business, Legion Field can then be demolished if that is deemed the best choice. Until that time, it is the only large game (site) in town so the city must keep it useable and upkeep on any old building is expensive.

Many newer stadiums have come and gone in the last few decades. The Kingdome, the GA Dome, the Metrodome, Three Rivers Stadium, Cowboy's stadium, Yankee Stadium to name a few. They have all been replaced by very expensive new, usually larger facilities often built by combined municipal and private funding - usually for naming rights. The BJCC stadium would be bucking this trend by replacing a larger facility with one less than 70% of the older facility's capacity.

It's been stated many times that Jeffco, UAB, and the corporate community are all on board. The exact terms of what each is contributing aren't going to be laid out here on Blazertalk. But just know each of those entities is committed to the project ($$$) and everyone is just waiting on the city. Literally no one is asking the city of birmingham to pay for this alone.

If a Jeffco Commissioner can specifically say what B'ham should pay, why can't he be specific about what the county will contribute?
11-28-2017 10:34 PM
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Tell me, how many contract negotiations of any sort does the public get to read the negotiating positions on before the deal is finalized?

Why would you expect this one to be completely public? That's not how this works.
11-29-2017 12:19 AM
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Latest I'm hearing is that the $25m over 5 years to renovate Legion Field is separate from dealings with the new stadium. If so, this creates a nicer, more viable Legion Field for the immediate future AND a smaller, state-of-the-art stadium at Uptown. The two stadiums would be two separate budgets, with the Birmingham City Parks & Rec Board funding & operating Legion Field and the BJCC operating the publicly/privately funded stadium at Uptown.

This might be the win-win we were looking for.
11-29-2017 12:30 AM
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Outside of high school games & possibly the Magic City Classic nothing would be held at Legion Field if there was a new stadium at the BJCC>
11-29-2017 07:54 AM
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