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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
I work for an international company where there a few Americans. So, naturally, a big board room was set up to watch the draw!

If I am forced to pick a group of death, I pick Group F with world #1 and defending champions Germany, CONCACAF #1 Mexico, the Swedish slayers of Netherlands/Italy, and a solid South Korea side. The easiest group would seem to be Group A with hosts Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Uruguay. Group C will be difficult because I think the teams are more evenly matched. Group D has Euro darlings Iceland against some stiff competition. Group E won't be a cake walk for Brazil by any means. Groups B (Portugal & Spain), G (Belgium & England), and H (Poland & Colombia) drew seemingly well in pots 3 & 4.
12-01-2017 12:41 PM
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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
(12-01-2017 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Mexico is in a brutal situation...

Have to beat Sweeden just to get out of pool play. Then see Brazil in the rd of 16. It's as hard as you can possibly get. Them and Peru I think are the 2 toughest draws for the entire tourney. Peru has to beat team right behind them in the ratings to make the rd of 16, then gets Argentina.

I mean look at Mexico... they have to beat all of these to win the World Cup possibly-
#18 Sweeden
#2 Brazil
# 5 Belgium
#6 Spain
#1 Germany

or Peru:
#12 Denmark
#4 Argentina
#3 Portugal
#1 Germany
#2 Brazil

It's difficult to predict all the way through the knockout stage, though. Based on the last World Cup, some of the obvious favorites will end up finishing 2nd in their group instead of 1st, which mixes up the anticipated knockout stage bracket. Teams will draw games they are predicted to win. Or teams will get to their 3rd group stage game with nothing to play for except 1st or 2nd in the group -- Belgium vs. England, the last game in their 2018 group, is a possible example of that.
12-01-2017 01:16 PM
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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
(12-01-2017 01:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-01-2017 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Mexico is in a brutal situation...

Have to beat Sweeden just to get out of pool play. Then see Brazil in the rd of 16. It's as hard as you can possibly get. Them and Peru I think are the 2 toughest draws for the entire tourney. Peru has to beat team right behind them in the ratings to make the rd of 16, then gets Argentina.

I mean look at Mexico... they have to beat all of these to win the World Cup possibly-
#18 Sweeden
#2 Brazil
# 5 Belgium
#6 Spain
#1 Germany

or Peru:
#12 Denmark
#4 Argentina
#3 Portugal
#1 Germany
#2 Brazil

It's difficult to predict all the way through the knockout stage, though. Based on the last World Cup, some of the obvious favorites will end up finishing 2nd in their group instead of 1st, which mixes up the anticipated knockout stage bracket. Teams will draw games they are predicted to win. Or teams will get to their 3rd group stage game with nothing to play for except 1st or 2nd in the group -- Belgium vs. England, the last game in their 2018 group, is a possible example of that.

Right but lets just look at the early part of things...
For Mexico- for them to just advance to knockout rounds, they're going to have to beat #18 Sweeden. Then #2 Brazil or even #8 Switzerland awaits.
For Peru- for them to just advance to knockout rounds, they're going to have to beat #12 Denmark. There #4 Argentina almost certainly will be awaiting.

But then you have Portugal and Spain- who besides each other won't see another top 20 side until the QF.
12-01-2017 02:15 PM
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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
(12-01-2017 02:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  But then you have Portugal and Spain- who besides each other won't see another top 20 side until the QF.

That is the side effect of rigging the draw to give Russia a super-soft group. The Portugal-Spain group is matched with the Russia-Uruguay group in round 2.

It makes the Portugal-Spain game significant, because there's a huge difference between playing Uruguay in a knockout game vs. playing Russia, Egypt, or Saudi Arabia.
12-01-2017 04:09 PM
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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
No interest at all. IMO soccer is hockey on a field. Might check the final, if nothing else interesting is on.
12-03-2017 12:50 AM
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RE: World Cup 2018 Group Draw
It'seems worse than hockey on the field, hockey has scoring by both teams pretty much every game or at least way more than soccer.
12-03-2017 02:11 AM
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