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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 07:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)MJG Wrote:  The Summit football conference
UND
NDSU
SDSU
USD
WIU
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UM
MSU
UI
EWU
Cal- Poly
UC- Davis

Pretty much every school has lower level G5 support. Which should increase if grouped together.

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WIU isn't a school with the financial status to fundraise for FBS.

Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St would prefer a southwest WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Sam Houston St, Lamar and SF Austin.

Idaho parted ways with the WAC and NMSU because a NW regional group was more to their interests.

Hey @SDHornet - you're excited for trips to Edinburgh, Beaumont, Nachitoches and Huntsville, right?
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 07:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 07:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)MJG Wrote:  The Summit football conference
UND
NDSU
SDSU
USD
WIU
Add
UM
MSU
UI
EWU
Cal- Poly
UC- Davis

Pretty much every school has lower level G5 support. Which should increase if grouped together.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

WIU isn't a school with the financial status to fundraise for FBS.

Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St would prefer a southwest WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Sam Houston St, Lamar and SF Austin.

Idaho parted ways with the WAC and NMSU because a NW regional group was more to their interests.

Hey @SDHornet - you're excited for trips to Edinburgh, Beaumont, Nachitoches and Huntsville, right?

He'd have to sky dive into Flagstaff, so at least he avoids that danger.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 07:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  WIU isn't a school with the financial status to fundraise for FBS.

That's fine, FBS isn't on the table.

Quote:Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St would prefer a southwest WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Sam Houston St, Lamar and SF Austin.

That's only true if it's an FBS WAC. (It's not.) But if the Great Northern Conference gets going, the California schools might be interested--it's a nicer "neighborhood" than the directional "trailer park" the Big Sky would be left with--Northern Arizona, Southern Utah, Weber STate, Northern Colorado, Idaho State, Portland State, plus the California schools.

Without the California schools, it would be 7 flagships-and-landgrants, ritzy private Denver, UN-Omaha, maybe UMKC, plus Oral Roberts, Fort Wayne and Western Illinois--and Eastern Washington, apparently. (You can't really kick existing schools out, sorry.) That's already 14, with 9 for football. MAybe you have room for the Big West football schools as affiliates, if they want to hobnob with flagships instead of directionals.

EDIT: I forgot things. Like IUPU-Fort Wayne existing, EWU being a possible member of the Great Northern league, and Western Illinois having football.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
Once again putting athletics aside, I'd think Idaho people would be happy to deepen ties with UC Davis and Cal Poly given the missions of those schools. It would also make a ton of sense for us on the athletic side, since we recruit California heavily and Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas are not exactly fertile territory for D1 football players.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 08:24 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  EDIT: I forgot things. Like IUPU-Fort Wayne existing, EWU being a possible member of the Great Northern league, and Western Illinois having football.

NoDak just sort of handwaves all these schools out of the Summit, but in the real world, this is very difficult to pull off. They're not actually going to all have a neat and tidy fit elsewhere, so you end up with serious roadblocks.

Really the best thing for the hypothetical Great North might be to wait until the WAC is in its final death throes, pay whichever poor school is left there holding the bag to go away, move into that conference and take the autobid.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 07:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 07:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)MJG Wrote:  The Summit football conference
UND
NDSU
SDSU
USD
WIU
Add
UM
MSU
UI
EWU
Cal- Poly
UC- Davis

Pretty much every school has lower level G5 support. Which should increase if grouped together.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

WIU isn't a school with the financial status to fundraise for FBS.

Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St would prefer a southwest WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Sam Houston St, Lamar and SF Austin.

Idaho parted ways with the WAC and NMSU because a NW regional group was more to their interests.

Hey @SDHornet - you're excited for trips to Edinburgh, Beaumont, Nachitoches and Huntsville, right?

Wel according to Nodak, it's what we "prefer". 03-lmfao
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 07:26 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 07:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 07:06 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 06:31 PM)MJG Wrote:  The Summit football conference
UND
NDSU
SDSU
USD
WIU
Add
UM
MSU
UI
EWU
Cal- Poly
UC- Davis

Pretty much every school has lower level G5 support. Which should increase if grouped together.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

WIU isn't a school with the financial status to fundraise for FBS.

Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St would prefer a southwest WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Sam Houston St, Lamar and SF Austin.

Idaho parted ways with the WAC and NMSU because a NW regional group was more to their interests.

Hey @SDHornet - you're excited for trips to Edinburgh, Beaumont, Nachitoches and Huntsville, right?

He'd have to sky dive into Flagstaff, so at least he avoids that danger.

Still cheaper than that eastern grouping. Ouch.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
It's about the same distance to Cleveland from Fargo as it is to Missoula.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-29-2017 09:41 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 08:24 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  EDIT: I forgot things. Like IUPU-Fort Wayne existing, EWU being a possible member of the Great Northern league, and Western Illinois having football.

NoDak just sort of handwaves all these schools out of the Summit, but in the real world, this is very difficult to pull off. They're not actually going to all have a neat and tidy fit elsewhere, so you end up with serious roadblocks.

Really the best thing for the hypothetical Great North might be to wait until the WAC is in its final death throes, pay whichever poor school is left there holding the bag to go away, move into that conference and take the autobid.

All the original Summit schools have recognized that the Summit isnt for them as the geography has changed and shifted west and north. IPFw wants in The Horizon badly and the Horizon has stated they may be open to 14 schtools. W Ill is not the best match for the OVC, bit neither is the Summi. ORU should be salivating for the WAC.
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