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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 02:27 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 02:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Not a single Montana school on there.

Obviously that merely means they've delayed the formation of the Great North until 2022....

or it is a double-fake to throw off suspicions...
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(02-12-2018 01:33 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:33 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 05:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:15 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 02:50 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Sure, that's the "logical" explanation, but doesn't it make more sense to come up with an outlandish conspiracy theory?
There has been documented political blocking of schools all over, but you reject that when you have absolutely no clue about the local politics. Makes zero sense, but all righty then. The Fargo media is the only one that matters in the state for college sports and some have their interview privileges blocked by Ndue when they ask questions that the NDSU President doesnt want asked. He delated emails against the law after all in violation of the FOIA.

As I said before, you're seeing things that aren't there. You seem unable or unwilling to view the situation objectively due to your emotional investment in the schools in question. You also appear to be ignoring or discounting out of hand the simple and reasonable explanations people here are giving for innocuous happenings such as the delay in UND joining the MVFC. There's zero actual evidence for the imminent formation of an FCS conference consisting of the Montana and Dakota schools (let alone an FBS version of it). Wild conjecture is insufficient to support your claim.

The one reputable sportswriter in Fargo has serious questions about the future of the Summit League.

bisonmedia.areavoices.com/now-what-for-the-summit-league/

Every decision, including cost cutting ones, our current President has made has been done with a plan to build up UND. E .g The swimming facility and old basketball arena are scheduled to be demolished and a new STEM facility built in its place, hence M&W Swimming was cut. A new business school will also be built, even though the old medical school lies mostly vacant. The Summit League won't be the same as our President has a grand plan (his words) to build up the finest U in the northern plains. We are not joining the Summit only to see it fail and low academic schools like W Illinois and IPFW won't be part of it.

When a $110 million hockey arena was donated and built, it came under heavy fire from SJW for not being academically focused. The plan is already in place for a new football stadium on nearby UND owned but now closed golf course as well as other buildings that will be paid for with one massive donation. There is too much remodeling, demolition, and current plans for something grander not to happen. Our President is not reckless, as he was treasurer at a Fortune 500 company before getting into politics and education.

Can you post a link discussing the plan for your new FB stadium and this big donation? As for remodeling, demolition and current plans, I don't even recognize South Dakota State's campus any longer. The entire campus has been rebuilt, much of it in the past decade. That doesn't mean something bigger is just around the corner. What it does mean is that we have had great leadership who saw the issues and have addressed those issues. Will something bigger happen? Possibly, but it won't occur for another 5-10 years minimum.

And I agree with you in regards to your President. His financial acumen is the reason he is waving goodbye to the BSC and moving his school into the Summit/MVFC.

You need a new basketball arena, surprised being a historically basketball school tradition you don't have a better arena.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 02:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Not a single Montana school on there.

They don't need to be--those are conference games 04-cheers

But then, why bother to set up non-conference games with the Montanas?
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 04:27 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:33 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:33 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 05:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 03:15 PM)NoDak Wrote:  There has been documented political blocking of schools all over, but you reject that when you have absolutely no clue about the local politics. Makes zero sense, but all righty then. The Fargo media is the only one that matters in the state for college sports and some have their interview privileges blocked by Ndue when they ask questions that the NDSU President doesnt want asked. He delated emails against the law after all in violation of the FOIA.

As I said before, you're seeing things that aren't there. You seem unable or unwilling to view the situation objectively due to your emotional investment in the schools in question. You also appear to be ignoring or discounting out of hand the simple and reasonable explanations people here are giving for innocuous happenings such as the delay in UND joining the MVFC. There's zero actual evidence for the imminent formation of an FCS conference consisting of the Montana and Dakota schools (let alone an FBS version of it). Wild conjecture is insufficient to support your claim.

The one reputable sportswriter in Fargo has serious questions about the future of the Summit League.

bisonmedia.areavoices.com/now-what-for-the-summit-league/

Every decision, including cost cutting ones, our current President has made has been done with a plan to build up UND. E .g The swimming facility and old basketball arena are scheduled to be demolished and a new STEM facility built in its place, hence M&W Swimming was cut. A new business school will also be built, even though the old medical school lies mostly vacant. The Summit League won't be the same as our President has a grand plan (his words) to build up the finest U in the northern plains. We are not joining the Summit only to see it fail and low academic schools like W Illinois and IPFW won't be part of it.

When a $110 million hockey arena was donated and built, it came under heavy fire from SJW for not being academically focused. The plan is already in place for a new football stadium on nearby UND owned but now closed golf course as well as other buildings that will be paid for with one massive donation. There is too much remodeling, demolition, and current plans for something grander not to happen. Our President is not reckless, as he was treasurer at a Fortune 500 company before getting into politics and education.

Can you post a link discussing the plan for your new FB stadium and this big donation? As for remodeling, demolition and current plans, I don't even recognize South Dakota State's campus any longer. The entire campus has been rebuilt, much of it in the past decade. That doesn't mean something bigger is just around the corner. What it does mean is that we have had great leadership who saw the issues and have addressed those issues. Will something bigger happen? Possibly, but it won't occur for another 5-10 years minimum.

And I agree with you in regards to your President. His financial acumen is the reason he is waving goodbye to the BSC and moving his school into the Summit/MVFC.

You need a new basketball arena, surprised being a historically basketball school tradition you don't have a better arena.

The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Championship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Chanpionship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

So, NoDak, just in case you missed it:

(02-12-2018 02:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=109
http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=110

Is this simply a misdirection by the MVFC?
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 08:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Chanpionship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

So, NoDak, just in case you missed it:

(02-12-2018 02:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=109
http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=110

Is this simply a misdirection by the MVFC?
If USD announced OOC games other than Iowa State and Kansas, you might be on to something. Teams switching conferences don't announce a new conference schedule before the actual conference switch. The OOC games only show two FBS games. If USD did more than that, it would be news.

You posters are so erroneous in your logic, like Maryland, Rutgers, West Virginia, and TCU announced their new conferences by detailing their new schedule. That thinking is so full of crap.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 09:00 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Chanpionship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

So, NoDak, just in case you missed it:

(02-12-2018 02:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=109
http://www.goyotes.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=110

Is this simply a misdirection by the MVFC?
If USD announced OOC games other than Iowa State and Kansas, you might be on to something. Teams switching conferences don't announce a new conference schedule before the actual conference switch. The OOC games only show two FBS games. If USD did more than that, it would be news.

You posters are so erroneous in your logic, like Maryland, Rutgers, West Virginia, and TCU announced their new conferences by detailing their new schedule. That thinking is so full of crap.

Conversely, then, if a team is not switching conferences, they would indeed be inclined to release conference schedules in advance, as USD just did. So USD seems to be under the assumption that the MVFC will still exist as is in 2020, just with UND added. That suggests that either the Great North will not form in 2020 or, perhaps more likely, there is in fact a secret plan, but USD is just not in on it.

What we need to figure out, then, is (1) why UND and its allies would deliberately keep USD in the dark, and (2) how they managed to convince the MVFC schools that are being left behind to pretend to schedule games against USD. These -- these are the questions.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:27 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:33 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:33 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 05:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  As I said before, you're seeing things that aren't there. You seem unable or unwilling to view the situation objectively due to your emotional investment in the schools in question. You also appear to be ignoring or discounting out of hand the simple and reasonable explanations people here are giving for innocuous happenings such as the delay in UND joining the MVFC. There's zero actual evidence for the imminent formation of an FCS conference consisting of the Montana and Dakota schools (let alone an FBS version of it). Wild conjecture is insufficient to support your claim.

The one reputable sportswriter in Fargo has serious questions about the future of the Summit League.

bisonmedia.areavoices.com/now-what-for-the-summit-league/

Every decision, including cost cutting ones, our current President has made has been done with a plan to build up UND. E .g The swimming facility and old basketball arena are scheduled to be demolished and a new STEM facility built in its place, hence M&W Swimming was cut. A new business school will also be built, even though the old medical school lies mostly vacant. The Summit League won't be the same as our President has a grand plan (his words) to build up the finest U in the northern plains. We are not joining the Summit only to see it fail and low academic schools like W Illinois and IPFW won't be part of it.

When a $110 million hockey arena was donated and built, it came under heavy fire from SJW for not being academically focused. The plan is already in place for a new football stadium on nearby UND owned but now closed golf course as well as other buildings that will be paid for with one massive donation. There is too much remodeling, demolition, and current plans for something grander not to happen. Our President is not reckless, as he was treasurer at a Fortune 500 company before getting into politics and education.

Can you post a link discussing the plan for your new FB stadium and this big donation? As for remodeling, demolition and current plans, I don't even recognize South Dakota State's campus any longer. The entire campus has been rebuilt, much of it in the past decade. That doesn't mean something bigger is just around the corner. What it does mean is that we have had great leadership who saw the issues and have addressed those issues. Will something bigger happen? Possibly, but it won't occur for another 5-10 years minimum.

And I agree with you in regards to your President. His financial acumen is the reason he is waving goodbye to the BSC and moving his school into the Summit/MVFC.

You need a new basketball arena, surprised being a historically basketball school tradition you don't have a better arena.

The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Championship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

I'd be more then happy to argue over your BB tradition, I'd put your program 3rd over the decades, behind SDSU and USD. Maybe you meant the most in North Dakota.
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(02-13-2018 01:24 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:27 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:33 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:33 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The one reputable sportswriter in Fargo has serious questions about the future of the Summit League.

bisonmedia.areavoices.com/now-what-for-the-summit-league/

Every decision, including cost cutting ones, our current President has made has been done with a plan to build up UND. E .g The swimming facility and old basketball arena are scheduled to be demolished and a new STEM facility built in its place, hence M&W Swimming was cut. A new business school will also be built, even though the old medical school lies mostly vacant. The Summit League won't be the same as our President has a grand plan (his words) to build up the finest U in the northern plains. We are not joining the Summit only to see it fail and low academic schools like W Illinois and IPFW won't be part of it.

When a $110 million hockey arena was donated and built, it came under heavy fire from SJW for not being academically focused. The plan is already in place for a new football stadium on nearby UND owned but now closed golf course as well as other buildings that will be paid for with one massive donation. There is too much remodeling, demolition, and current plans for something grander not to happen. Our President is not reckless, as he was treasurer at a Fortune 500 company before getting into politics and education.

Can you post a link discussing the plan for your new FB stadium and this big donation? As for remodeling, demolition and current plans, I don't even recognize South Dakota State's campus any longer. The entire campus has been rebuilt, much of it in the past decade. That doesn't mean something bigger is just around the corner. What it does mean is that we have had great leadership who saw the issues and have addressed those issues. Will something bigger happen? Possibly, but it won't occur for another 5-10 years minimum.

And I agree with you in regards to your President. His financial acumen is the reason he is waving goodbye to the BSC and moving his school into the Summit/MVFC.

You need a new basketball arena, surprised being a historically basketball school tradition you don't have a better arena.

The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Championship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

I'd be more then happy to argue over your BB tradition, I'd put your program 3rd over the decades, behind SDSU and USD. Maybe you meant the most in North Dakota.

I was talking to you when I said that SDSU needs a new basketball arena.
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(02-13-2018 02:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 01:24 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:27 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 01:33 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  Can you post a link discussing the plan for your new FB stadium and this big donation? As for remodeling, demolition and current plans, I don't even recognize South Dakota State's campus any longer. The entire campus has been rebuilt, much of it in the past decade. That doesn't mean something bigger is just around the corner. What it does mean is that we have had great leadership who saw the issues and have addressed those issues. Will something bigger happen? Possibly, but it won't occur for another 5-10 years minimum.

And I agree with you in regards to your President. His financial acumen is the reason he is waving goodbye to the BSC and moving his school into the Summit/MVFC.

You need a new basketball arena, surprised being a historically basketball school tradition you don't have a better arena.

The 13000 seat arena next door can be used. Surprised they didn't have the NDSU M&W double header BB games there, as there was no hockey series that weekend. When it first opened, they staged some big games like that and drew 10k. A Kansas game was sold out.

But BB has been sliding in popularity all along, even though we have arguably the most BB tradition of Dakota schools. But hockey recruits are such high level. For example, Brock Boeser stayed for only two years, and he was recently the MVP of the NHL All Star game. Brock has only played in Tampa's arena twice, once for the All Star game and once ( actually two games) when we won a National Championship.

An interesting article from a childhood UND hockey fan:
http://www.startribune.com/page-2-revisi...473749723/

I'd be more then happy to argue over your BB tradition, I'd put your program 3rd over the decades, behind SDSU and USD. Maybe you meant the most in North Dakota.

I was talking to you when I said that SDSU needs a new basketball arena.

Renovations are beginning this year. The first phase, which some work has begun, is to add new Men's and Women's practice facilities, the second phase, rebuilding the arena will begin after next season and be complete in time for the 2019-20 season. The third phase will be adding a 15,000 square foot wresting facility. A sport that has become big at SDSU. We average over 2,000 per wrestling match, including a school record 4,300 against Iowa last year.

http://www.crawfordarch.com/portfolio/ma...enovation/
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