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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
Personal knowledge of an alignment situation is just net accepted here, that is obvious.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
Regardless of plausibility, I'd love to see these conferences:

Big Sky
North Dakota
North Dakota St
South Dakota
South Dakota St
Montana
Montana St
Idaho
Idaho St
Eastern Washington
Portland St

Great West
UC Davis
Sacramento St
Cal Poly
San Diego
Weber St
Southern Utah
Northern Arizona
Northern Colorado
11-28-2017 10:06 AM
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
http://kwsn.com/news/articles/2017/nov/2...agreement/

Four year series, spear-headed by Montana State's AD, designed to give OOC home games for each school.

"We're excited about this opportunity and appreciate all of (Montana State Director of Athletics) Leon Costello's hard work in putting this together," said South Dakota State Director of Athletics Justin Sell, who along with Jackrabbit coaching staff was crucial to the agreement process. "Men's basketball scheduling can be a challenge, and this series guarantees a quality Division I opponent coming to Frost Arena each season. It's a blend of two highly competitive conferences, and a mutually beneficial scheduling agreement for everyone involved."
11-28-2017 11:12 AM
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 11:12 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  http://kwsn.com/news/articles/2017/nov/2...agreement/

Four year series, spear-headed by Montana State's AD, designed to give OOC home games for each school.

"We're excited about this opportunity and appreciate all of (Montana State Director of Athletics) Leon Costello's hard work in putting this together," said South Dakota State Director of Athletics Justin Sell, who along with Jackrabbit coaching staff was crucial to the agreement process. "Men's basketball scheduling can be a challenge, and this series guarantees a quality Division I opponent coming to Frost Arena each season. It's a blend of two highly competitive conferences, and a mutually beneficial scheduling agreement for everyone involved."

I'm shocked a basketball scheduling alliance for teams that have a hard time getting opponents to come to their arenas. Clearly its a super duper secret conference forming.
11-28-2017 11:30 AM
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 11:12 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  http://kwsn.com/news/articles/2017/nov/2...agreement/

Four year series, spear-headed by Montana State's AD, designed to give OOC home games for each school.

"We're excited about this opportunity and appreciate all of (Montana State Director of Athletics) Leon Costello's hard work in putting this together," said South Dakota State Director of Athletics Justin Sell, who along with Jackrabbit coaching staff was crucial to the agreement process. "Men's basketball scheduling can be a challenge, and this series guarantees a quality Division I opponent coming to Frost Arena each season. It's a blend of two highly competitive conferences, and a mutually beneficial scheduling agreement for everyone involved."


Costello is the former Assistant Athletic Director at South Dakota State. I'm sure NoDak will see the connection between he and SDSU AD Sell as a key to the creation of a new Great Northern league, but in reality is is simply a smart move, using the relationship to create an alliance both leagues need that will help fill scheduling gaps which all mid- and low-mid majors face.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 09:48 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Personal knowledge of an alignment situation is just net accepted here, that is obvious.

Personal knowledge?

Looking forward to 4/20/18. I've marked my calendar.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 01:09 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 11:12 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  http://kwsn.com/news/articles/2017/nov/2...agreement/

Four year series, spear-headed by Montana State's AD, designed to give OOC home games for each school.

"We're excited about this opportunity and appreciate all of (Montana State Director of Athletics) Leon Costello's hard work in putting this together," said South Dakota State Director of Athletics Justin Sell, who along with Jackrabbit coaching staff was crucial to the agreement process. "Men's basketball scheduling can be a challenge, and this series guarantees a quality Division I opponent coming to Frost Arena each season. It's a blend of two highly competitive conferences, and a mutually beneficial scheduling agreement for everyone involved."


Costello is the former Assistant Athletic Director at South Dakota State. I'm sure NoDak will see the connection between he and SDSU AD Sell as a key to the creation of a new Great Northern league, but in reality is is simply a smart move, using the relationship to create an alliance both leagues need that will help fill scheduling gaps which all mid- and low-mid majors face.

NAU has done similar with Big West schools in basketball. NAU is still in the Big Sky.

As stated, the low-mid majors need all the home games they can swing. And it is tough to get people to come to Flagstaff, Bozeman or Brookings in the early winter.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
I firmly believe that the Montana and Idaho twins will join the Summit in the near future, with W Illinois and Fort Wayne moving into more geographically compatible conferences. However, the Summit FBS wet dream is a pipe dream. Nobody wants to see that.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 09:46 AM)NoDak Wrote:  A Montana-Dakota centric conference has been an institutional goal of all those schools Presidents for two generations, especially UND and NDSU.

If it was a generations-long institutional goal, why did the Dakota schools sit around in Division II for so long?

Quote: Idaho was not in favor of it back then, but this will be a path back to FBS so all the sudden they are totally aboard.

1. A Dakota-Montana-Idaho flagships-and-landgrants conference makes sense, but it is not a path back to FBS.
2. If Idaho was so enamored of FBS, they'd have STAYED FBS.

Quote:EWU is near a key city for the Montana's and Idaho and provide a travel partner for Idaho so they get included.

OK, getting Spokane in the mix would seem a reasonable thing to do.

Denver and Omaha are pulled in because they want to associate with UND hockey, as that is the financial basis for their athletic programs.

This is an alignment that has been in the works for years, since the WAC dropped football.

Nothing has "been in the works for years", or North Dakota wouldn't be leaving a conference they just joined 5 years ago.

Now that I think about it, if FBS made any kind of sense for North Dakota, they would have upgraded to the WAC and either saved the FBS WAC or, like UTSA and Texas STate, used the WAC to upgrade.
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RE: The Big Sky and Summit schedule a crossover challenge series with select schools
(11-28-2017 02:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 09:46 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Idaho was not in favor of it back then, but this will be a path back to FBS so all the sudden they are totally aboard.

1. A Dakota-Montana-Idaho flagships-and-landgrants conference makes sense, but it is not a path back to FBS.
2. If Idaho was so enamored of FBS, they'd have STAYED FBS.

If there's a decades-long goal to unite all these schools as an FBS conference, I can confirm that Idaho's current leadership was not clued into it.
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