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(11-27-2017 12:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  I hate to admit this, but I have always been envious of Ohio's success with Frank Solich and wonder why Kent does not try the same strategy. Hire an older, proven head coach who has lost his job and will be unlikely to move on when successful. Even Akron has taken a stab at it, and it's tough to argue Terry Bowden hasn't improved the program (not a power, but competitive and going to bowl games). So with that mentality, why not these names:
Previous MAC Coaches: Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Al Golden, Darrell Hazell
Power 5 Coaches w/ Midwest Connection: Les Miles, Bret Bielema, Todd Graham, Bo Pelini

I agree lets go after a coach with previous experience...I like all your choices. Don't think we have a chance with Bielema, Miles or Hazell. I think might Pelini would be a good, BUT would he come?
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(11-27-2017 12:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  I hate to admit this, but I have always been envious of Ohio's success with Frank Solich and wonder why Kent does not try the same strategy. Hire an older, proven head coach who has lost his job and will be unlikely to move on when successful. Even Akron has taken a stab at it, and it's tough to argue Terry Bowden hasn't improved the program (not a power, but competitive and going to bowl games). So with that mentality, why not these names:
Previous MAC Coaches: Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Al Golden, Darrell Hazell
Power 5 Coaches w/ Midwest Connection: Les Miles, Bret Bielema, Todd Graham, Bo Pelini

I agree lets go after a coach with previous experience...I like all your choices. Don't think we have a chance with Bielema, Miles or Hazell. I think might Pelini would be a good, BUT would he come?
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(11-27-2017 08:06 AM)Albert Flasher Wrote:  Mike Riley who was recently let go from Nebraska might be a good fit. Has an overall positive college résumé. Solich came form Nebraska, and that turned out pretty well. At this stage of his career, this may be his last chance at a D1 head coaching job.



Didn't think about Mike Riley...wouldn't mind that.
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(11-28-2017 06:51 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 09:41 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  goldenflash99, I agree about the strongest selling point. There are plenty of young guys out there who have the self-confidence (ego?) to believe that can reprise 2012. Keep in mind that, in my opinion, the university blew it after Glenn Mason departed, too, even though Dick Crum had a nice resume'. He was 54 years old and had had only one good season out of his last four at North Carolina. At the time I thought it was a good hire, but in retrospect.....

Crum was not a bad hire ... ??? personality, maybe ... but not a bad hire. Go back and check out the staff Crum had. Many still coaching.

The fault as someone earlier pointed out is that Kent was/is in the midst of its annual five-and-out plan when it comes to hiring/firing head football coaches.

Crum redshirt his entire first two classes ... and played those first two years with the suspect recruiting left behind by Mason (absolutly no linemen recruited, all skill positions) then compounded it with hiring Cordelli after that. ... Kent FB has not been able to solidify itself since.

AGREE!!
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(11-29-2017 08:36 AM)OhioPlayer_84 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 12:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  I hate to admit this, but I have always been envious of Ohio's success with Frank Solich and wonder why Kent does not try the same strategy. Hire an older, proven head coach who has lost his job and will be unlikely to move on when successful. Even Akron has taken a stab at it, and it's tough to argue Terry Bowden hasn't improved the program (not a power, but competitive and going to bowl games). So with that mentality, why not these names:
Previous MAC Coaches: Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Al Golden, Darrell Hazell
Power 5 Coaches w/ Midwest Connection: Les Miles, Bret Bielema, Todd Graham, Bo Pelini

I agree lets go after a coach with previous experience...I like all your choices. Don't think we have a chance with Bielema, Miles or Hazell. I think might Pelini would be a good, BUT would he come?

Mostly pipe dreams... but I could realistically see a Butch Jones, Brady Hoke or Al Golden reboot (a name I failed to mention earlier.. Turner Gill? anyone?); and would fully support all of those choices.
As for Pelini, I bet he's shooting for the stars with a Power 5 job. No reason for him to make a stop off at a Mid-Major. The Risk/Reward at Kent State is too high. He's better off staying at YSU and succeeding until a Power 5 comes calling.
But since this is a forum and crazy ideas are encouraged... I've been hoping/dreaming for Les Miles since LSU fired him. How fun & exciting would that be. A successful, national champion head coach, and charismatic personality who knows how to talk football and not "blow smoke". Who also grew up in the area. Could you imagine.... Les Miles vs Frank Solich vs Terry Bowden. Anyway.... that's my dream.
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(11-29-2017 09:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  
(11-29-2017 08:36 AM)OhioPlayer_84 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 12:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  I hate to admit this, but I have always been envious of Ohio's success with Frank Solich and wonder why Kent does not try the same strategy. Hire an older, proven head coach who has lost his job and will be unlikely to move on when successful. Even Akron has taken a stab at it, and it's tough to argue Terry Bowden hasn't improved the program (not a power, but competitive and going to bowl games). So with that mentality, why not these names:
Previous MAC Coaches: Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Al Golden, Darrell Hazell
Power 5 Coaches w/ Midwest Connection: Les Miles, Bret Bielema, Todd Graham, Bo Pelini

I agree lets go after a coach with previous experience...I like all your choices. Don't think we have a chance with Bielema, Miles or Hazell. I think might Pelini would be a good, BUT would he come?

Mostly pipe dreams... but I could realistically see a Butch Jones, Brady Hoke or Al Golden reboot (a name I failed to mention earlier.. Turner Gill? anyone?); and would fully support all of those choices.
As for Pelini, I bet he's shooting for the stars with a Power 5 job. No reason for him to make a stop off at a Mid-Major. The Risk/Reward at Kent State is too high. He's better off staying at YSU and succeeding until a Power 5 comes calling.
But since this is a forum and crazy ideas are encouraged... I've been hoping/dreaming for Les Miles since LSU fired him. How fun & exciting would that be. A successful, national champion head coach, and charismatic personality who knows how to talk football and not "blow smoke". Who also grew up in the area. Could you imagine.... Les Miles vs Frank Solich vs Terry Bowden. Anyway.... that's my dream.

Brady Hoke may end up like Dick Crum...Turner Gill is sitting good at Liberty (i think...) and they're going FBS by 2019...Butch has had success in the MAC so please come BACK lol
11-29-2017 10:08 AM
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(11-29-2017 08:36 AM)OhioPlayer_84 Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 12:34 AM)cosmicflash Wrote:  I hate to admit this, but I have always been envious of Ohio's success with Frank Solich and wonder why Kent does not try the same strategy. Hire an older, proven head coach who has lost his job and will be unlikely to move on when successful. Even Akron has taken a stab at it, and it's tough to argue Terry Bowden hasn't improved the program (not a power, but competitive and going to bowl games). So with that mentality, why not these names:
Previous MAC Coaches: Butch Jones, Brady Hoke, Al Golden, Darrell Hazell
Power 5 Coaches w/ Midwest Connection: Les Miles, Bret Bielema, Todd Graham, Bo Pelini

I agree lets go after a coach with previous experience...I like all your choices. Don't think we have a chance with Bielema, Miles or Hazell. I think might Pelini would be a good, BUT would he come?

I would be shocked if Bo Pelini left YSU for Kent. He's being paid $2,000,000 by Nebraska to coach in his hometown which offers minimal pressure at most. I understand he has a tremendous relationship with his superiors there and has a very long leash.

The only name I have heard surface is former Kent State DC, Jon Heacock.
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A coach with OSU ties, like Warriner, may be a good strategy. It worked with Mason and Hazell, but not Haynes. Could help with in-state recruiting.
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If I'm wrong, everyone can remind me of it. We will not hire anyone with significant head coaching experience. We'll hire a position coach from a P5 school. Not saying this is a bad move, but I can't think of any good reason for a veteran head coach to come here.
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Sam Houston and James Madison both won today to move to the FCS Quarterfinals. JMU winning was never in doubt while SHSU was up 41-14 at halftime then South Dakota roard back to bring it within two in the fourth quarter. SHSU scored 10 straight to put the game away. Defense was none existent with SHSU racking up 708 yards and SD 637 combining for 1345 yards. It took Kent five games to reach that total both to start the season and to start the conference schedule.
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