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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
Despite the loss of Ray, I feel like our O will be better next year with an improved line and Williams having the full off-season as QB1. Just need all our guys to stay away from The Edge.
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 03:28 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Despite the loss of Ray, I feel like our O will be better next year with an improved line and Williams having the full off-season as QB1. Just need all our guys to stay away from The Edge.

And actually hit all of their offseason workout targets and making meetings on time would be nice too.
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 11:11 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-26-2017 11:17 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2017 09:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-26-2017 03:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  So why didn't Nagy make a change? Is it impossible to have something in reserve in case what you are doing isn't working? Other teams seem able to have more than one approach. Is that the indication of a coach in over his head?

They did. It didnt work.

Not trying to be a smartass, but exactly what adjustment(s) did we make?

I honestly didn't see anything other than some apparent stunts that seemed to be designed to pressure the QB in passing situations.

To be honest, I don't think people understand what they see. They don't really study what the offense and defense does and when you only watch the game live, you really can't judge what the schemes are.

The defense tried a few different blitz combinations and also played some man press (got torched here). The goal was certainly to slow down the pass with 6 defensive backs, but the tempo MTSU played (common theme) affected the ability to disguise coverages.

MTSU didn't really play at a fast tempo. Had they gone on and snapped the ball after coming right up to the line then they would have played at a fast tempo, but they didn't do that. Instead they used most of their allotted time before getting the next play off.

After coming up to the line they would act as if they were going to snap it which forced ODU to get into position, then turn and face the team bench for the next 10-15 seconds to get the play call from the sideline. ODU had that same 10-15 seconds to shift into a different defense had they desired. MTSU accomplished what they wanted by doing all of that. Their coaches up in the press box got to see the positioning of the defense before making their offensive play call since ODU never shifted out of their initial position, and they kept ODU from making defensive substitutions because the threat of a quick snap was always there even though it was seldom if ever used.
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 11:09 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This season was always going to come down to QB play and it pretty much sucked all year long. The injuries didn't help, but maybe completely healthy, we win another game or so. With good QB play, this team wins 8 games at least.

The positive is Williams clearly has potential and grew as the season goes along. Now, we have to figure out how to replace Lawry and add another playmaker or 2 at WR.

While it is true that the biggest question mark coming into the season was the quarterback position, it is also true that ODU was picked to be among the front runners in the conference with many thinking they could make it to the conference championship game. They had just come off of a 10-3 season with most of the starters returning. Now ODU is coming off of a 5-7 season with most of the starters returning. Are the guys returning better than the 5-7 record that they just achieved, or can we expect to see the same players miss tackles and drop passes like they did this season? Injuries are always going to happen so we can count on having our fair share of those again next season too. Should we be more optimistic about next season than we were this season since we have a sophomore QB this time around? What if he is the one that gets injured?
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 03:36 PM)benny_t Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:28 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Despite the loss of Ray, I feel like our O will be better next year with an improved line and Williams having the full off-season as QB1. Just need all our guys to stay away from The Edge.

And actually hit all of their offseason workout targets and making meetings on time would be nice too.

Hopefully SW gets a lot of sleep in the next 7 months and can make it to all the offseason practices on time! 05-stirthepot
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 11:09 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This season was always going to come down to QB play and it pretty much sucked all year long. The injuries didn't help, but maybe completely healthy, we win another game or so. With good QB play, this team wins 8 games at least.

The positive is Williams clearly has potential and grew as the season goes along. Now, we have to figure out how to replace Lawry and add another playmaker or 2 at WR.

While it is true that the biggest question mark coming into the season was the quarterback position, it is also true that ODU was picked to be among the front runners in the conference with many thinking they could make it to the conference championship game. They had just come off of a 10-3 season with most of the starters returning. Now ODU is coming off of a 5-7 season with most of the starters returning. Are the guys returning better than the 5-7 record that they just achieved, or can we expect to see the same players miss tackles and drop passes like they did this season? Injuries are always going to happen so we can count on having our fair share of those again next season too. Should we be more optimistic about next season than we were this season since we have a sophomore QB this time around? What if he is the one that gets injured?

You aren't winning anything without a QB. If Williams plays well next year, we will compete for the conference. If he sucks, we won't. Thats the nature of QB play at this level. (Unless you have an absolute stacked roster, which doesn't happen often).
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 04:13 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:36 PM)benny_t Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 03:28 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Despite the loss of Ray, I feel like our O will be better next year with an improved line and Williams having the full off-season as QB1. Just need all our guys to stay away from The Edge.

And actually hit all of their offseason workout targets and making meetings on time would be nice too.

Hopefully SW gets a lot of sleep in the next 7 months and can make it to all the offseason practices on time! 05-stirthepot

We were all told how mature he was too. Heinicke played as a freshman and I don't recall him being held out because he was late for any meetings. Guess he must have been super mature.
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 04:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 11:09 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This season was always going to come down to QB play and it pretty much sucked all year long. The injuries didn't help, but maybe completely healthy, we win another game or so. With good QB play, this team wins 8 games at least.

The positive is Williams clearly has potential and grew as the season goes along. Now, we have to figure out how to replace Lawry and add another playmaker or 2 at WR.

While it is true that the biggest question mark coming into the season was the quarterback position, it is also true that ODU was picked to be among the front runners in the conference with many thinking they could make it to the conference championship game. They had just come off of a 10-3 season with most of the starters returning. Now ODU is coming off of a 5-7 season with most of the starters returning. Are the guys returning better than the 5-7 record that they just achieved, or can we expect to see the same players miss tackles and drop passes like they did this season? Injuries are always going to happen so we can count on having our fair share of those again next season too. Should we be more optimistic about next season than we were this season since we have a sophomore QB this time around? What if he is the one that gets injured?

You aren't winning anything without a QB. If Williams plays well next year, we will compete for the conference. If he sucks, we won't. Thats the nature of QB play at this level. (Unless you have an absolute stacked roster, which doesn't happen often).

Yeah, that all pretty much goes without saying.

Edit: Just one thing to add though ... Williams wasn't the first choice to start this season. In fact he wasn't even the second choice. He fell into it after the play of the first two were observed. Who is to say that some new face won't surpass Williams for one reason or another next season?
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 04:20 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 04:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 11:09 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This season was always going to come down to QB play and it pretty much sucked all year long. The injuries didn't help, but maybe completely healthy, we win another game or so. With good QB play, this team wins 8 games at least.

The positive is Williams clearly has potential and grew as the season goes along. Now, we have to figure out how to replace Lawry and add another playmaker or 2 at WR.

While it is true that the biggest question mark coming into the season was the quarterback position, it is also true that ODU was picked to be among the front runners in the conference with many thinking they could make it to the conference championship game. They had just come off of a 10-3 season with most of the starters returning. Now ODU is coming off of a 5-7 season with most of the starters returning. Are the guys returning better than the 5-7 record that they just achieved, or can we expect to see the same players miss tackles and drop passes like they did this season? Injuries are always going to happen so we can count on having our fair share of those again next season too. Should we be more optimistic about next season than we were this season since we have a sophomore QB this time around? What if he is the one that gets injured?

You aren't winning anything without a QB. If Williams plays well next year, we will compete for the conference. If he sucks, we won't. Thats the nature of QB play at this level. (Unless you have an absolute stacked roster, which doesn't happen often).

Yeah, that all pretty much goes without saying.

Edit: Just one thing to add though ... Williams wasn't the first choice to start this season. In fact he wasn't even the second choice. He fell into it after the play of the first two were observed. Who is to say that some new face won't surpass Williams for one reason or another next season?

He was always the first choice.
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RE: 2017 ODU Football Season Recap
(11-27-2017 04:20 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 04:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 11:09 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This season was always going to come down to QB play and it pretty much sucked all year long. The injuries didn't help, but maybe completely healthy, we win another game or so. With good QB play, this team wins 8 games at least.

The positive is Williams clearly has potential and grew as the season goes along. Now, we have to figure out how to replace Lawry and add another playmaker or 2 at WR.

While it is true that the biggest question mark coming into the season was the quarterback position, it is also true that ODU was picked to be among the front runners in the conference with many thinking they could make it to the conference championship game. They had just come off of a 10-3 season with most of the starters returning. Now ODU is coming off of a 5-7 season with most of the starters returning. Are the guys returning better than the 5-7 record that they just achieved, or can we expect to see the same players miss tackles and drop passes like they did this season? Injuries are always going to happen so we can count on having our fair share of those again next season too. Should we be more optimistic about next season than we were this season since we have a sophomore QB this time around? What if he is the one that gets injured?

You aren't winning anything without a QB. If Williams plays well next year, we will compete for the conference. If he sucks, we won't. Thats the nature of QB play at this level. (Unless you have an absolute stacked roster, which doesn't happen often).

Yeah, that all pretty much goes without saying.

Edit: Just one thing to add though ... Williams wasn't the first choice to start this season. In fact he wasn't even the second choice. He fell into it after the play of the first two were observed. Who is to say that some new face won't surpass Williams for one reason or another next season?

Williams is like every freshman. He came in expecting to redshirt. But, even before practice started people in program said he was best QB. I remember being shocked on here to read it.

If someone beats out Williams next year, they are probably really good. Thats a good problem.
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