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The Reciver Slipped
Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.
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Are you talking about the ball that was intercepted? That ball was thrown way behind Beebe and with way too much air under it. The only reason Beebe slipped was because he was trying to cut off his route to have any chance of making a play on the ball
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If that ball is thrown in front of beebe it's a touchdown.
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(11-25-2017 02:37 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  If that ball is thrown in front of beebe it's a touchdown.

Could say that about 3/4 of Childers throws. He was one of the most inaccurate QBs I've seen in a long time.
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(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!
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RE: The Reciver Slipped
(11-25-2017 02:42 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:37 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  If that ball is thrown in front of beebe it's a touchdown.

Could say that about 3/4 of Childers throws. He was one of the most inaccurate QBs I've seen in a long time.

It's real tough when receivers aren't open Niu just need to completely overhaul this offense , run an offense with real routes , allow players to make plays
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(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.
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I agree.
The QB couldn't follow through on his throw.
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There was nowhere for Childers to throw, glad he got off a throw instead of taking a sack. At least it gave some chance for weird deflection
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RE: The Reciver Slipped
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football. Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.
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RE: The Reciver Slipped
(11-25-2017 04:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football. Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.

We have not had an experienced QB since Lynch graduated...you all must understand how important a position the QB...inexperiece means you have to limit your play calling. Plus what the F happened with our defense in the second half.. and why not call out the O liine for a first half that gave us a less than normal running game

For the league we are in and the money we have Carey is the best Group of 5 coach we could have...Remember a really top notch coach will leave after 2 seasons...a mediocre coach will need to be fired and a rebuilding initiated.
One bad hire and NIU could become what Ball State has become
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RE: The Reciver Slipped
(11-25-2017 04:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football.

How would you characterize the offenses run by Wisconsin playing in BT title game or 8-4 Michigan coached by Harbaugh?

How many snaps per game should be run vrs pass balance to be effective/productive overall? What about NIU's O is medieval?

Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.
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RE: The Reciver Slipped
(11-25-2017 05:29 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 10:36 AM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  Last play on offense. NIU driving. Beebe slips, cannot jump up in time to catch the ball. If caught, he falls backward for a touchdown. Tied game.

This team never quits. They are never out of it until the last second drips off the clock.

8-4 was a spectacular season for a team coming in with no QB. Pugh injury hurt, Huff, Beebe, etc. This team overcame that all.

Watch out for this team next year.

How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football. Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.

We have not had an experienced QB since Lynch graduated...you all must understand how important a position the QB...inexperiece means you have to limit your play calling. Plus what the F happened with our defense in the second half.. and why not call out the O liine for a first half that gave us a less than normal running game

For the league we are in and the money we have Carey is the best Group of 5 coach we could have...Remember a really top notch coach will leave after 2 seasons...a mediocre coach will need to be fired and a rebuilding initiated.
One bad hire and NIU could become what Ball State has become

We don't even need a really good coach here, just one that is willing to run a real offense, and make decisions that coaches typically make, aka who is the starting QB. It just cannot be overstated the hooked on phonics NIU is running right now for offense. Playing Toledo is like going to gunfight with a water pistol in this offense. You could combine the skills of Graham santa and childers into one QB and it wouldn't make a difference right now
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Receiver slipped ! No he didn't and it don't matter shouldn't have been in that situation
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(11-25-2017 07:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 05:29 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 02:43 PM)the_instigator Wrote:  How dare you post a positive thought on this board, it should be renamed gloom and doom and madddawg can be the moderator!

That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football. Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.

We have not had an experienced QB since Lynch graduated...you all must understand how important a position the QB...inexperiece means you have to limit your play calling. Plus what the F happened with our defense in the second half.. and why not call out the O liine for a first half that gave us a less than normal running game

For the league we are in and the money we have Carey is the best Group of 5 coach we could have...Remember a really top notch coach will leave after 2 seasons...a mediocre coach will need to be fired and a rebuilding initiated.
One bad hire and NIU could become what Ball State has become

We don't even need a really good coach here, just one that is willing to run a real offense, and make decisions that coaches typically make, aka who is the starting QB. It just cannot be overstated the hooked on phonics NIU is running right now for offense. Playing Toledo is like going to gunfight with a water pistol in this offense. You could combine the skills of Graham santa and childers into one QB and it wouldn't make a difference right now

MD-stop playing "I know you are but what am I". For each and every post about Childers not being good, which is about 95% of the board, you respond to each and everyone of them about Carey's offense. There's probably 100 posts about Childers lack of passing ability, and you have 100 of the same responses. You're so annoyed about everyone saying Childers is bad that you're trying to annoy everyone back.

I want you to repeat this for everyone to see - "Childers can not hit a deep route. It has nothing to do with anything other than his own ability to do this". I think you'll find it a relief to your football senses. I know we all would.

You have to find a way to defend Childers because you'd have to admit you were wrong if he sucks. So Childers is bad because Carey is bad. Not because Childers can't run or throw.
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Maddie was incredibly productive in the exact same offense. Just stop quoting and responding to MD. My 7 year old nephew has more rational NIU takes than he does
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(11-25-2017 08:54 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 07:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 05:29 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-25-2017 04:18 PM)Bears85 Wrote:  That route looks to be a Corner Route. If so, it should have been thrown to the sideline and not high and inside. But what caused the int. was not all the QB's fault. If #64 the center would have blocked his man, the D-Lineman would not have been in the QB's face causing the bad throw.

I just hope this off-season there is a meeting of the minds with the NIU coaching staff to come to the conclusion this medieval offense is no longer viable in today's college football. Need skilled receivers to actually run routes.

We have not had an experienced QB since Lynch graduated...you all must understand how important a position the QB...inexperiece means you have to limit your play calling. Plus what the F happened with our defense in the second half.. and why not call out the O liine for a first half that gave us a less than normal running game

For the league we are in and the money we have Carey is the best Group of 5 coach we could have...Remember a really top notch coach will leave after 2 seasons...a mediocre coach will need to be fired and a rebuilding initiated.
One bad hire and NIU could become what Ball State has become

We don't even need a really good coach here, just one that is willing to run a real offense, and make decisions that coaches typically make, aka who is the starting QB. It just cannot be overstated the hooked on phonics NIU is running right now for offense. Playing Toledo is like going to gunfight with a water pistol in this offense. You could combine the skills of Graham santa and childers into one QB and it wouldn't make a difference right now

MD-stop playing "I know you are but what am I". For each and every post about Childers not being good, which is about 95% of the board, you respond to each and everyone of them about Carey's offense. There's probably 100 posts about Childers lack of passing ability, and you have 100 of the same responses. You're so annoyed about everyone saying Childers is bad that you're trying to annoy everyone back.

I want you to repeat this for everyone to see - "Childers can not hit a deep route. It has nothing to do with anything other than his own ability to do this". I think you'll find it a relief to your football senses. I know we all would.

You have to find a way to defend Childers because you'd have to admit you were wrong if he sucks. So Childers is bad because Carey is bad. Not because Childers can't run or throw.

People are having some problems seeing the forest from the trees right now, just a little frustrated.
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Rod's inability to recruit a QB to NIU that can complete a forward pass is his biggest failure.

I like Carey...he is a solid coach that teaches good values to his players apparently. NIU should keep him down the road imo.

But for God's sake..quit giving us fans these crappy QBs that just run ahead 3' - 6' and fall down one or twice every series and can't complete a forward pass!! What's the point of playing if you can't score points? Get somebody that can run your offense or change it.
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(11-25-2017 09:52 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  Rod's inability to recruit a QB to NIU that can complete a forward pass is his biggest failure.

I like Carey...he is a solid coach that teaches good values to his players apparently. NIU should keep him down the road imo.

But for God's sake..quit giving us fans these crappy QBs that just run ahead 3' - 6' and fall down one or twice every series and can't complete a forward pass!! What's the point of playing if you can't score points? Get somebody that can run your offense or change it.

I think you have some lofty expectations. The qb that you describe doesn't sign here out of high school. They go to the Big 10 etc. We get qbs that we can develop. For example our best passing qb in recent memory was Harnish. He wasn't recruited anywhere else except Air Force. Childers originally signed with Memphis. We need to develop a qb like him because we won't be getting a dual threat qb that can pass accurately out of high school. Santacaterina was a much better passer but turnovers did him in. Not sure why he wasn't given a chance to develop more but that's the coach's decision. If he made a mistake then fans should voice their unhappiness. Jury is still out for me.
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I still think Childers can be good.
I am not giving up on a Redshirt Freshman.
I could not tell you what Sutton Smith did as a freshman.
Give him a little more time before you throw him out with the bath water.
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