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RE: Defense
He can mix in both. If you don't guard in games, it's hard to simulate things in practice.

It looks like they need to help better. That comes from being connected and seeing the ball.Some guys are better defenders than others. And some have more BB IQ than others. Bryan gets a hard time but defends pretty well. Cacok does well for the most part. Actually Gary looked good against LSU-Estime has had some good moments. Gary was right there denying that back-cut and it caused a TO plus I saw him steal it-he plays hard. There needs to be more effort like that collectively across the team. Richmond and Taylor could both be really good defenders, in theory, and are at times. Talley generally does a good job but even the "great one" took a poor angle on a close out and was part of the "parachuter's club" against that good guard and he simply shot faked and hit a floater. Fornes has gotten better than last year.

They will be okay. Give them some time. It's a good group of young men that will take a little time to gel on both ends.
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12-12-2017 08:22 AM
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Again, why is this a scheme problem? We were a bad halfcourt defense under Keatts, and it bit us badly when we faced strong competition. We're still a bad halfcourt defense. And we simply don't have the horses this year on top of that. Coach McGrath can't scheme his way out of that. Even if he completely shifted the program back towards a Keatts defense tomorrow, it wouldn't help us take a significant step forward. Saying things like "we're a zone/press away from being a good team" just isn't accurate, in my eyes. We're a zone/press away from moving from the 6th-8th best CAA team to the 5th-7th. That's about it.

I've re-calibrated my expectations for this season. If we don't want this board to be completely depressing I recommend considering doing the same. Otherwise we'll just be beating that dead horse week after week. That doesn't sound like a very good use of our time, really.
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(12-12-2017 10:18 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Again, why is this a scheme problem? We were a bad halfcourt defense under Keatts, and it bit us badly when we faced strong competition. We're still a bad halfcourt defense. And we simply don't have the horses this year on top of that. Coach McGrath can't scheme his way out of that. Even if he completely shifted the program back towards a Keatts defense tomorrow, it wouldn't help us take a significant step forward. Saying things like "we're a zone/press away from being a good team" just isn't accurate, in my eyes. We're a zone/press away from moving from the 6th-8th best CAA team to the 5th-7th. That's about it.

I've re-calibrated my expectations for this season. If we don't want this board to be completely depressing I recommend considering doing the same. Otherwise we'll just be beating that dead horse week after week. That doesn't sound like a very good use of our time, really.
Keatts Schemed his way out of us being a bad half court D team by pressing and causing turnovers. Scheme can Certainly play a large part in playing to your teams strengths. Good coaches adjust
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(12-12-2017 10:44 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Keatts Schemed his way out of us being a bad half court D team by pressing and causing turnovers. Scheme can Certainly play a large part in playing to your teams strengths. Good coaches adjust

Scheme masked our flaws, but the flaws were still there. How can we expect a team who never learned to play any semblance of halfcourt D to suddenly learn how to do it now?

And why does Coach McGrath have to feel the need to basically tell his team "Look, we're not a good defensive team and never will be, so let's mask our flaws with a scheme that will only take us so far." Because we the fans tell him he needs to do it?
These guys have to LEARN to become a strong defensive unit. The only way to do it is by DOING it.

I'd much rather McGrath be his own man. People who are already dismissing him and saying he has no vision for the future of the team are promoting a viewpoint they have no clue about. If McGrath has no plan, or has a bad plan, that's not something we can determine in December of his first season. That's absurd.

Keatts made us relevant again. But now we want to take our program to an even higher level. Sometimes, you have to get worse first and take your lumps before you can do that.
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All teams have flaws 08. Good coaches mask them, while working to improve what needs to be fixed in the background. Sorry boss, i think you are alone on an island on this topic on the board.
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(12-12-2017 11:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  All teams have flaws 08. Good coaches mask them, while working to improve what needs to be fixed in the background. Sorry boss, i think you are alone on an island on this topic on the board.

No, the people who agree with me are keeping quiet or don't post here. I'm a vocal minority, but not alone.
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(12-12-2017 11:35 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(12-12-2017 11:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  All teams have flaws 08. Good coaches mask them, while working to improve what needs to be fixed in the background. Sorry boss, i think you are alone on an island on this topic on the board.

No, the people who agree with me are keeping quiet or don't post here. I'm a vocal minority, but not alone.
Haha. On the board, you are.

I can tell you one thing, if i try something with my boys this weekend and it doesn't work, if i determine it won't work with my squad, i'll try something else. That's how it works. Like many others here, i think if we played zone and/or pressed we'd be hanging more W's than we are posting the worst D numbers in the country.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
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(12-12-2017 11:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

Not accurate.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-...nsanity-is


What you call insanity by McGrath, I'll call perseverance.


Perseveration (a form of insanity): the pathological, persistent repetition of a word, gesture, or act.

Perseverance: steady persistence in a course of action in spite of difficulties, obstacles, or discouragement.
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LOL you can post any definition you want, my statement is widely known
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(12-12-2017 01:38 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  LOL you can post any definition you want, my statement is widely known

It's widely used. Doesn't mean it's accurate. No psychologist worth his/her salt agrees with the definition, and it can actually be dangerous to subscribe to it. Read the article.

This is a board with college-educated people so it's always worthwhile to learn something that challenges your perceptions. And in this case, it's applicable and relevant. I've heard it said by 2-3 different people on this very board in the last few days.
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