(11-24-2017 04:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:28 PM)Stallion Wrote:  Another tough win for Westoff

it cracks me up

I won how? Applewhite is still our coach.


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You missed the joke
It’s regularly “another tough loss”

He he is saying you are rooting for us to loss but had ruin things by Winning

(11-24-2017 04:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:28 PM)Stallion Wrote:  Another tough win for Westoff

it cracks me up

I won how? Applewhite is still our coach.


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You missed the joke
It’s regularly “another tough loss”

He he is saying you are rooting for us to loss but had ruin things by Winning

Oh ok.


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(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:42 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Congrats Coogs.

4 More years!!

Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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It’s not even been a full season yet. How do you know?
Yoeman was bad his first few years

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:42 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Congrats Coogs.

4 More years!!

Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:42 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Congrats Coogs.

4 More years!!

Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being new and coaching. The defense while it has been mostly bad in the second half of games does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense, for which almost nothing has changed in 3 years.... so coaching....




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(11-24-2017 05:08 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being mew and coaching, and the defense is does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense.




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If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor at times this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will be more stable next year and should improve. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

(11-24-2017 05:15 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:08 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being mew and coaching, and the defense is does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense.




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If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will only improve next year. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

The problem is the decision making and the play calling. Clearly kyle allen was just plain bad... but how could they not see that in practice? Then postma comes in and for the most part plays worse than last year because of clearly bad play calling, and then king comes in and is hampered by bad play calling.

I expect a difference but not necessarily regression on offense, defense ok, I expected some regression there. Our o-line was supposed to be dominant yet they have struggled all year. It took applewhite almost half way through the year to finally realize king was the guy and that was only in desperation.

The o-line the very thing that applewhite coaches was supposed to be just as good if not better than last year. Instead its the weakest part of this team, we saw it in the bowl game last year and now we have seen it this year. Its simply just bad offensive coaching!

Not mention losing to tulsa and tulane in the same year when they are clearly subpar teams should never be acceptable.


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(11-24-2017 05:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:15 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:08 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being mew and coaching, and the defense is does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense.




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If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will only improve next year. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

The problem is the decision making and the play calling. Clearly kyle allen was just plain bad... but how could they not see that in practice? Then postma comes in and for the most part plays worse than last year because of clearly bad play calling, and then king comes in and is hampered by bad play calling.

I expect a difference but not necessarily regression on offense, defense ok, I expected some regression there. Our o-line was supposed to be dominant yet they have struggled all year. It took applewhite almost half way through the year to finally realize king was the guy and that was only in desperation.

The o-line the very thing that applewhite coaches was supposed to be just as good if not better than last year. Instead its the weakest part of this team, we saw it in the bowl game last year and now we have seen it this year. Its simply just bad offensive coaching!

Not mention losing to tulsa and tulane in the same year when they are clearly subpar teams should never be acceptable.


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King was hurt to start the year so he didn't have the chance to compete initially with Allen and Postma. Also the O-line was not suppose to be "dominant" it was just suppose to be more experienced. Frankly the O-Line has looked better than last year so I don't even know what you're going on about.

While I don't want to excuse the losses to Tulsa and Tulane, they're no worse than the losses to SMU and UConn under Herman.

Like I say give Applewhite some time. Being a head coach is a major step up from being a coordinator. Even if its at the same school there are going to be some growing pains. We have a good chance to win 9-10 games next year and compete for the conference championship. I'm optimistic.

(11-24-2017 05:32 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:15 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:08 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being mew and coaching, and the defense is does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense.




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If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will only improve next year. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

The problem is the decision making and the play calling. Clearly kyle allen was just plain bad... but how could they not see that in practice? Then postma comes in and for the most part plays worse than last year because of clearly bad play calling, and then king comes in and is hampered by bad play calling.

I expect a difference but not necessarily regression on offense, defense ok, I expected some regression there. Our o-line was supposed to be dominant yet they have struggled all year. It took applewhite almost half way through the year to finally realize king was the guy and that was only in desperation.

The o-line the very thing that applewhite coaches was supposed to be just as good if not better than last year. Instead its the weakest part of this team, we saw it in the bowl game last year and now we have seen it this year. Its simply just bad offensive coaching!

Not mention losing to tulsa and tulane in the same year when they are clearly subpar teams should never be acceptable.


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King was hurt to start the year so he didn't have the chance to compete initially with Allen and Postma. Also the O-line was not suppose to be "dominant" it was just suppose to be more experienced. Frankly the O-Line has looked better than last year so I don't even know what you're going on about.

While I don't want to excuse the losses to Tulsa and Tulane, they're no worse than the losses to SMU and UConn under Herman.

Like I say give Applewhite some time. Being a head coach is a major step up from being a coordinator. Even if its at the same school there are going to be some growing pains. We have a good chance to win 9-10 games next year and compete for the conference championship. I'm optimistic.

Well see but being a coog fan i don’t have much faith. Its far more likely we are going to be returning to the cellar for a while. Remember we only have 2 conference championships in 17 years. Us being bad or underachieving tends to be the norm not the exception.

As far as the o-line they really only started playing well when king finally became the starter. I will say they have been playing much better than they did at the beginning of the year.


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(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:42 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Congrats Coogs.

4 More years!!

Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

The only one who comes to my mind is brady hoke with Michigan, but other than that i cant think of anyone.


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(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Our president says otherwise...


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Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

Bear Bryant went 1-9 his first season at A&M and 5-4-1 his first season at Bama. Mac Brown struggled for years before he finally became a household name. **** even Yeoman struggled early on. All I'm saying is that UH fans can't get all pissed about coaches coming and going and then want to fire a guy for going 7-4 in his first season as a head coach. Give the guy a chance to succeed.

(11-24-2017 05:46 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:45 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Applewhite isn't going anywhere. Find a new obsession and get over it.

You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

Bear Bryant went 1-9 his first season at A&M and 5-4-1 his first season at Bama. Mac Brown struggled for years before he finally became a household name. **** even Yeoman struggled early on. All I'm saying is that UH fans can't get all pissed about coaches coming and going and then want to fire a guy for going 7-4 in his first season as a head coach. Give the guy a chance to succeed.

Well unless your trying to say this guy will be the next bill yeoman i dont share your optimism.


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(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:32 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:15 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:08 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  1. 2/3 of those coaches are considered some of the best coaches in history.

2. Dan Hawkins has been mostly mediocre, and has done nothing since 2010. Not to mention once he left boise he absolutely stunk.

3. Applewhite has been here 3 years regressing from your previous season is not acceptable when you were specifically hired to avoid any regression. If he was a brand new coach i would totally be fine with 7-4. But his system has been in place for 3 years so the fact that there is regression comes down to the defense being mew and coaching, and the defense is does not carry nearly as much blame as the offense.




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If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will only improve next year. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

The problem is the decision making and the play calling. Clearly kyle allen was just plain bad... but how could they not see that in practice? Then postma comes in and for the most part plays worse than last year because of clearly bad play calling, and then king comes in and is hampered by bad play calling.

I expect a difference but not necessarily regression on offense, defense ok, I expected some regression there. Our o-line was supposed to be dominant yet they have struggled all year. It took applewhite almost half way through the year to finally realize king was the guy and that was only in desperation.

The o-line the very thing that applewhite coaches was supposed to be just as good if not better than last year. Instead its the weakest part of this team, we saw it in the bowl game last year and now we have seen it this year. Its simply just bad offensive coaching!

Not mention losing to tulsa and tulane in the same year when they are clearly subpar teams should never be acceptable.


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King was hurt to start the year so he didn't have the chance to compete initially with Allen and Postma. Also the O-line was not suppose to be "dominant" it was just suppose to be more experienced. Frankly the O-Line has looked better than last year so I don't even know what you're going on about.

While I don't want to excuse the losses to Tulsa and Tulane, they're no worse than the losses to SMU and UConn under Herman.

Like I say give Applewhite some time. Being a head coach is a major step up from being a coordinator. Even if its at the same school there are going to be some growing pains. We have a good chance to win 9-10 games next year and compete for the conference championship. I'm optimistic.

Well see but being a coog fan i don’t have much faith. Its far more likely we are going to be returning to the cellar for a while. Remember we only have 2 conference championships in 17 years. Us being bad or underachieving tends to be the norm not the exception.

As far as the o-line they really only started playing well when king finally became the starter. I will say they have been playing much better than they did at the beginning of the year.


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We also have the most conference wins in the short history of this conference. Whats your point? What we did 5 years ago, 15 years ago, or 35 years ago have very little to do with what we're going to do next season.

(11-24-2017 05:49 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:46 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  You seem ok with having a bad coach...


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Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

Bear Bryant went 1-9 his first season at A&M and 5-4-1 his first season at Bama. Mac Brown struggled for years before he finally became a household name. **** even Yeoman struggled early on. All I'm saying is that UH fans can't get all pissed about coaches coming and going and then want to fire a guy for going 7-4 in his first season as a head coach. Give the guy a chance to succeed.

Well unless your trying to say this guy will be the next bill yeoman i dont share your optimism.


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I mean Yeoman did go 7-4 in his first season. Just sayin...

(11-24-2017 05:50 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:32 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:24 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:15 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  If you thought we weren't going to regress some this year than you don't understand how special of a QB Ward was. I will admit that the play calling has been poor this year but it has improved throughout the year. With King at the helm the offense will only improve next year. If the team regresses next season then we can have this conversation but right now lets enjoy the win.

The problem is the decision making and the play calling. Clearly kyle allen was just plain bad... but how could they not see that in practice? Then postma comes in and for the most part plays worse than last year because of clearly bad play calling, and then king comes in and is hampered by bad play calling.

I expect a difference but not necessarily regression on offense, defense ok, I expected some regression there. Our o-line was supposed to be dominant yet they have struggled all year. It took applewhite almost half way through the year to finally realize king was the guy and that was only in desperation.

The o-line the very thing that applewhite coaches was supposed to be just as good if not better than last year. Instead its the weakest part of this team, we saw it in the bowl game last year and now we have seen it this year. Its simply just bad offensive coaching!

Not mention losing to tulsa and tulane in the same year when they are clearly subpar teams should never be acceptable.


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King was hurt to start the year so he didn't have the chance to compete initially with Allen and Postma. Also the O-line was not suppose to be "dominant" it was just suppose to be more experienced. Frankly the O-Line has looked better than last year so I don't even know what you're going on about.

While I don't want to excuse the losses to Tulsa and Tulane, they're no worse than the losses to SMU and UConn under Herman.

Like I say give Applewhite some time. Being a head coach is a major step up from being a coordinator. Even if its at the same school there are going to be some growing pains. We have a good chance to win 9-10 games next year and compete for the conference championship. I'm optimistic.

Well see but being a coog fan i don’t have much faith. Its far more likely we are going to be returning to the cellar for a while. Remember we only have 2 conference championships in 17 years. Us being bad or underachieving tends to be the norm not the exception.

As far as the o-line they really only started playing well when king finally became the starter. I will say they have been playing much better than they did at the beginning of the year.


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We also have the most conference wins in the short history of this conference. Whats your point? What we did 5 years ago, 15 years ago, or 35 years ago have very little to do with what we're going to do next season.

Touché.


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(11-24-2017 05:51 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:49 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:46 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 05:37 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Gary Patterson went 6-6 his first year at TCU. Saban went 6-5-1 his first year at MSU. He went 7-6 his first season at Alabama. Dan Hawkins went 8-4 his first season at BSU. Its too early to tell how good Applewhite is. Give the guy a chance to grow as a coach and build the program.

Saba went 9-2 his first year as a head coach. He had won a national championship prior to coming to Bama, so he had earned some leeway

Hawkins had been a head coach at a lower level of college football amassing a 40-11-1 record

Patterson is your exception. He was a Broyles finalist at YOU so his pedigree was a bit higher than Applewhite.

For all of these examples though, I bet you can find just as many coaches with a decent first year that completely collapsed

Bear Bryant went 1-9 his first season at A&M and 5-4-1 his first season at Bama. Mac Brown struggled for years before he finally became a household name. **** even Yeoman struggled early on. All I'm saying is that UH fans can't get all pissed about coaches coming and going and then want to fire a guy for going 7-4 in his first season as a head coach. Give the guy a chance to succeed.

Well unless your trying to say this guy will be the next bill yeoman i dont share your optimism.


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I mean Yeoman did go 7-4 in his first season. Just sayin...

If he matches or surpasses bill yeomen i will marry a goat and move to iraq....


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(11-24-2017 01:21 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:19 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:16 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:15 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 12:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  If im ed oliver i tell UH to either fire applewhite at the end of the season or im transferring to a school that actually wants to win.


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Oliver isn't going to transfer. He'd have to sit out a year. After next year, he's going pro

True! But if he plays for us he wont get drafted high. If he transfers to a school with an actual coach he will have a shot at being the #1 overall pic.


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He'd be a top 5 pick if he could come out now

I seriously doubt that.... this draft is qb heavy... at best he would be top 15. He hasnt even been mentioned in mock drafts or even really talked about outside of houston.


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Probably because he can’t be in this draft.

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After what he tweeted about Herman

I can see why you use FartTalk because you're talking out of your a**
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Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Spot on.

(11-24-2017 06:42 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  “After what he tweeted about Herman

I can see why you use FartTalk because you're talking out of your a**”

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Spot on.

Oh look cornell troll is back to trolling again.