If you were coach, why would you sign an extension workout listening to other offers?

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Roach Man 48, the offers have been made by us and others, we gotta see how it shakes out.
Word on the street is we have a good shot at retaining Mike for at least another two yrs if we get the money right.
I have a source that says Zona State might cause us a problem, if that should happen, my sources r saying Hugo Freeze could be our Coach, but Lane Kiffin is the choice of a lot of peeps who make things happen and there is a possibility that Hugo would be an assistant to Lane.
However, right now Mike Norvell is the Coach and should remain the Coach

(11-24-2017 06:03 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:57 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:04 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 09:08 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Would nt' now be the time to put together a nice extension with as many $$$$$$ s as we can and offer it to Norvell?
We do this before he starts talking turkey with the P5 schools that are going to offer him a HC spot.
I have not heard where any offers from of us have taken place.

We have/will offer him an amount that will make any school pay dearly if they want to even think about hiring him. FACT

What part is FACT? The "we have" part or the "we will" part?

The fact is Norvell will not leave here for lack of money, it will take a $large $ offer to beat out what is available here (right now)

Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

(11-24-2017 07:10 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 06:03 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:57 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:04 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 09:08 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Would nt' now be the time to put together a nice extension with as many $$$$$$ s as we can and offer it to Norvell?
We do this before he starts talking turkey with the P5 schools that are going to offer him a HC spot.
I have not heard where any offers from of us have taken place.

We have/will offer him an amount that will make any school pay dearly if they want to even think about hiring him. FACT

What part is FACT? The "we have" part or the "we will" part?

The fact is Norvell will not leave here for lack of money, it will take a $large $ offer to beat out what is available here (right now)

Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

(11-24-2017 07:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:10 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 06:03 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:57 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:04 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  We have/will offer him an amount that will make any school pay dearly if they want to even think about hiring him. FACT

What part is FACT? The "we have" part or the "we will" part?

The fact is Norvell will not leave here for lack of money, it will take a $large $ offer to beat out what is available here (right now)

Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

I'm still trying to figure how a) Norvell will not leave here for more money, or b) it will take another team more money to get him

And now the Arky job just opened up and we gotta sweat it out again.

(11-24-2017 07:28 PM)mapdude Wrote:  And now the Arky job just opened up and we gotta sweat it out again.

not worried about Arkansas. they just fired their coach who was leaving the field after the game. plus they don't have an AD either

(11-24-2017 03:48 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't believe our administration signs coaches by the checkbook anymore.

I think one of the reasons we have attracted two great coaches is that our administration is more focused on matching people, potential, and goals than winning bidding wars.

I think Norvell's future will be handled the same way. If money is the deciding factor, we won't pay it. That's not how this bunch picks a coach. They won't hire or rehire a coach whose only motivation is the size of the paycheck.

BB too ?

I doubt Norvell would turn down a quality P-5 school, but we have to try to retain him nevertheless. I am not going to resort to a candlelight vigil, however.

(11-24-2017 08:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I doubt Norvell would turn down a quality P-5 school, but we have to try to retain him nevertheless. I am not going to resort to a candlelight vigil, however.

I don't blame you, at least on this topic, lol

I have to imagine this whole coaching uncertainty is affecting many here and on other Tiger boards....

(11-24-2017 07:14 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:10 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 06:03 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 01:57 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  What part is FACT? The "we have" part or the "we will" part?

The fact is Norvell will not leave here for lack of money, it will take a $large $ offer to beat out what is available here (right now)

Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

I'm still trying to figure how a) Norvell will not leave here for more money, or b) it will take another team more money to get him

Reading Comprehension not your strong suit? im sure you are good at math

(11-24-2017 10:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:14 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:10 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 06:03 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  The fact is Norvell will not leave here for lack of money, it will take a $large $ offer to beat out what is available here (right now)

Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

I'm still trying to figure how a) Norvell will not leave here for more money, or b) it will take another team more money to get him

Reading Comprehension not your strong suit? im sure you are good at math

Sorry, i must have misunderstood, i thought you said "norvell will not leave here for lack of money", which seems to imply that we have enough money to make pay a non-issue.

Then, you immediately say "it will take a large money offer to beat out what is available now", which seems to imply our available funds are indeed an issue on whether he leaves or not.

I was just curious how you could reconcile those two thoughts, as they appear to contradict each other.

(11-24-2017 04:46 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 02:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:58 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Extensions don't mean crap unless it changes the buyout, which it won't. Memphis can't pay enough to outbid a motivated P5 school from getting him.

Just go get the next guy.

Kinda like Auburn did to the Mississippi poors when Tubberville left.

Honestly, yeah. Back then the cash gap between those schools was wide. Almost like P5 vs G5 today.

You really think the cash gap between auburn and ole miss is closer now?

Interesting

(11-24-2017 11:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 11:32 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Boise State's coach did it for numerous years. Same with other coaches.

But, keep thinking you elitist P5 dreams. We will see how quickly ole miss is able to replace their coach.

Good coaches struggle at Ole Miss, Arkansas and Tennessee for a reason...

Mississippi is loaded with talent by the state is poached by neighboring schools with bigger programs. What's left is usually split between Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

Arkansas and Tennessee simply do not consistently have the instate studs to consistently compete with the schools that do.

All of those schools are capable of making a run, but they are not capable of sustaining it at the level the boosters expect.

Memphis is a program capable of competiting at the level of its peers, and should be able to consistently be at the top half of its league. Arkansas/ Ole Miss will never be a better job than LSU, Alabama, or Auburn, so how many 4th place finishes will Hog fans endure?

Bingo, unfortunately....A VERY small percentage of us fans REALLY have faith in this factoid and carry this with pride that WE BELONG! Most are all too surprised that WE compete on such a level and are destined to be a MAJOR FACTOR in the whole sceme of things, also our media footprint is increasing.....

(11-24-2017 10:43 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:14 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:10 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Link?
Or is that your OPINION?
I'd like to see the official statement from the admin.

A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

I'm still trying to figure how a) Norvell will not leave here for more money, or b) it will take another team more money to get him

Reading Comprehension not your strong suit? im sure you are good at math

Sorry, i must have misunderstood, i thought you said "norvell will not leave here for lack of money", which seems to imply that we have enough money to make pay a non-issue.

Then, you immediately say "it will take a large money offer to beat out what is available now", which seems to imply our available funds are indeed an issue on whether he leaves or not.

I was just curious how you could reconcile those two thoughts, as they appear to contradict each other.

I stand by my assessment of your abilities.

(11-24-2017 11:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 04:46 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 02:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:58 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Extensions don't mean crap unless it changes the buyout, which it won't. Memphis can't pay enough to outbid a motivated P5 school from getting him.

Just go get the next guy.

Kinda like Auburn did to the Mississippi poors when Tubberville left.

Honestly, yeah. Back then the cash gap between those schools was wide. Almost like P5 vs G5 today.

You really think the cash gap between auburn and ole miss is closer now?

Interesting

Close? Not really. Closer than it was in the early 2000s? Yeah.

(11-24-2017 11:14 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:43 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 10:28 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:14 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 07:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  A statement about ongoing negotiations? Surely you jest.

I'm still trying to figure how a) Norvell will not leave here for more money, or b) it will take another team more money to get him

Reading Comprehension not your strong suit? im sure you are good at math

Sorry, i must have misunderstood, i thought you said "norvell will not leave here for lack of money", which seems to imply that we have enough money to make pay a non-issue.

Then, you immediately say "it will take a large money offer to beat out what is available now", which seems to imply our available funds are indeed an issue on whether he leaves or not.

I was just curious how you could reconcile those two thoughts, as they appear to contradict each other.

I stand by my assessment of your abilities.

But it's FACT lol

(11-24-2017 12:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 11:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 11:32 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Boise State's coach did it for numerous years. Same with other coaches.

But, keep thinking you elitist P5 dreams. We will see how quickly ole miss is able to replace their coach.

Good coaches struggle at Ole Miss, Arkansas and Tennessee for a reason...

Mississippi is loaded with talent by the state is poached by neighboring schools with bigger programs. What's left is usually split between Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

Arkansas and Tennessee simply do not consistently have the instate studs to consistently compete with the schools that do.

All of those schools are capable of making a run, but they are not capable of sustaining it at the level the boosters expect.

Memphis is a program capable of competiting at the level of its peers, and should be able to consistently be at the top half of its league. Arkansas/ Ole Miss will never be a better job than LSU, Alabama, or Auburn, so how many 4th place finishes will Hog fans endure?

Not really. According to the NCAA, MS is about on the next to bottom tier, TN is higher.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...e-ncaa-map

Ok, so according to that ridiculous map, MS and Texas have less football talent than Utah, Nevada, South Dakota, Arkansas, Delaware and Washington DC

Is that what you are trying to say?

(11-24-2017 11:28 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 12:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 11:47 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-24-2017 11:32 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Boise State's coach did it for numerous years. Same with other coaches.

But, keep thinking you elitist P5 dreams. We will see how quickly ole miss is able to replace their coach.

Good coaches struggle at Ole Miss, Arkansas and Tennessee for a reason...

Mississippi is loaded with talent by the state is poached by neighboring schools with bigger programs. What's left is usually split between Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

Arkansas and Tennessee simply do not consistently have the instate studs to consistently compete with the schools that do.

All of those schools are capable of making a run, but they are not capable of sustaining it at the level the boosters expect.

Memphis is a program capable of competiting at the level of its peers, and should be able to consistently be at the top half of its league. Arkansas/ Ole Miss will never be a better job than LSU, Alabama, or Auburn, so how many 4th place finishes will Hog fans endure?

Not really. According to the NCAA, MS is about on the next to bottom tier, TN is higher.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...e-ncaa-map

Ok, so according to that ridiculous map, MS and Texas have less football talent than Utah, Nevada, South Dakota, Arkansas, Delaware and Washington DC

Is that what you are trying to say?

ridiculous ? lol. The stats blow away the myths you believe in and you call the stats ridiculous . The NCAA said it. Not me. The percentage of high school players in the state who receive D1 offers. The larger states by population might have results skewed by the large number of high school players, TX, CA. But MS is one of the least populated states in America. So their results are not skewed. The state might produce quality players, but not many of them each year. So MS is not "loaded" with talent.

With Tom Bowen, Fred Smith, Bill Laurie, Brad Martin and David Rudd involved (I assume those are the people) I feel much more confident of our decision making abilites on both hiring and contract negotiations. That is one really strong team. Did I miss someone?