JPWMU
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RE: Toledo predictions
Prediction? We’ll look uninterested and lose.
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-22-2017 07:23 PM)JPWMU Wrote: Prediction? We’ll look uninterested and lose.
And then?!
A nap.
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11-23-2017 08:44 AM |
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Brindlee2015
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
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11-23-2017 10:32 AM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
Bad outlook for tomorrow. Rockets loaded for revenge after getting whipped the past two years. Experienced QB, really good RBs, etc. Couldn't believe the number of big plays they had vs. BG last week in rolling up 60 points. I say we run somewhat effectively in stretches but struggle in the red zone. Look for a final somewhere around 45-17 as the Rockets warm up for a rout in the MACC game. And, bonus prediction, we are one of 2 or 3 bowl eligible teams left out of a bowl. Usually, I'm all for the extra game and practice but this year is different. Per Lester's presser the other day, if we were to get a bowl invite, the only 2 injured players we could possibly get back would be Wassink and Ricci. Others done for the year. Just a different team now vs. USC. May be best to just call it a wrap and move on to Bronco BB and Hockey.
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11-23-2017 11:41 AM |
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Hoekjeness
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
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11-23-2017 11:42 AM |
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Hoekjeness
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 11:41 AM)Broncos83 Wrote: Usually, I'm all for the extra game and practice but this year is different. Per Lester's presser the other day, if we were to get a bowl invite, the only 2 injured players we could possibly get back would be Wassink and Ricci. Others done for the year. Just a different team now vs. USC. May be best to just call it a wrap and move on to Bronco BB and Hockey.
Even more reason to accept a bowl invite. Get some of our younger more inexperienced players the extra practice and bowl game experience. It will pay dividends down the road. Hard to ever turn down a bowl invite in any scenario, really. Sends a terrible message to the players (and fan base) to give up on the season.
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11-23-2017 11:49 AM |
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Broncos83
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RE: Toledo predictions
Ok. I agree. I'm fine if we were to accept one but, in reality, I don't think we'll have the option. Guessing 1, 2 or 3 bowl eligible teams will be sitting on the sidelines.
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11-23-2017 12:32 PM |
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Brindlee2015
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 11:42 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: (11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
Nope. I'm saying it was ALWAYS thin. But some people need to be battered with the clue-bat of truth before finally seeing the light...
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11-23-2017 12:56 PM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 12:56 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-23-2017 11:42 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: (11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
Nope. I'm saying it was ALWAYS thin. But some people need to be battered with the clue-bat of truth before finally seeing the light...
The “clue-bat of truth” is that 75% of our two-deeps played in a MAC Championship and Cotton Bowl last year (more than half started). Those are facts.
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11-23-2017 01:10 PM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 12:56 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-23-2017 11:42 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: (11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
Nope. I'm saying it was ALWAYS thin. But some people need to be battered with the clue-bat of truth before finally seeing the light...
Apparently that includes everyone but you brother, as the overwhelming conclusion of the college football prognosticators, the fan base, the MAC coaches, and our own coaches was that this was a very experienced and quality group of players on our defense coming into the season, and that our defense should be able to carry the team several games. I still don't see why you conclude it wasn't. And I don't recall you making that assessment until after became clear the defense was underperforming for the year.
It doesn't really matter whether any of us consider this to be a young or an experienced group, or whether we have been hit harder by injuries than any other team. This is the group of players and coaches that we have, and we are either going to be a good team or we aren't. The results will be what they will be. A win at Toledo and the season will be digestible. If not, it will be very disappointing.
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11-23-2017 01:25 PM |
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Brindlee2015
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 01:25 PM)brovol Wrote: (11-23-2017 12:56 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-23-2017 11:42 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: (11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
Nope. I'm saying it was ALWAYS thin. But some people need to be battered with the clue-bat of truth before finally seeing the light...
Apparently that includes everyone but you brother, as the overwhelming conclusion of the college football prognosticators, the fan base, the MAC coaches, and our own coaches was that this was a very experienced and quality group of players on our defense coming into the season, and that our defense should be able to carry the team several games. I still don't see why you conclude it wasn't. And I don't recall you making that assessment until after became clear the defense was underperforming for the year.
It doesn't really matter whether any of us consider this to be a young or an experienced group, or whether we have been hit harder by injuries than any other team. This is the group of players and coaches that we have, and we are either going to be a good team or we aren't. The results will be what they will be. A win at Toledo and the season will be digestible. If not, it will be very disappointing.
Whatever....
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11-23-2017 01:33 PM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 01:25 PM)brovol Wrote: (11-23-2017 12:56 PM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-23-2017 11:42 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: (11-23-2017 10:32 AM)Brindlee2015 Wrote: (11-22-2017 10:58 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote: My point was that (earlier in the year) all we heard from a few people was that our “two-deep was inexperienced” therefore that was the built-in excuse. That was before we had a slew of injuries.
I think it’s pretty unanimous now that because we’ve been gutted with injuries it’s no longer an excuse, but a reality. I’m not going to argue that now when it’s plain as day. Still won’t change my opinion on games earlier in the year where I feel we underperformed when mostly healthy (MSU, Idaho, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, CMU).
It took a slew of injuries to make that painfully apparent. Some already knew....
So you’re admitting our two-deep WAS experienced before the injuries...
Nope. I'm saying it was ALWAYS thin. But some people need to be battered with the clue-bat of truth before finally seeing the light...
Apparently that includes everyone but you brother, as the overwhelming conclusion of the college football prognosticators, the fan base, the MAC coaches, and our own coaches was that this was a very experienced and quality group of players on our defense coming into the season, and that our defense should be able to carry the team several games. I still don't see why you conclude it wasn't. And I don't recall you making that assessment until after became clear the defense was underperforming for the year.
It doesn't really matter whether any of us consider this to be a young or an experienced group, or whether we have been hit harder by injuries than any other team. This is the group of players and coaches that we have, and we are either going to be a good team or we aren't. The results will be what they will be. A win at Toledo and the season will be digestible. If not, it will be very disappointing.
The defense (without Tranquil) did put in some heroic efforts this season to keep the team in the game. The only issue overall was not enough turnovers and sacks, which is how this defense runs. If the offense could convert a few key plays, we'd be undefeated. It's a game of inches...
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11-23-2017 08:34 PM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
We keep it close in the first half and then Goddard fumbles the ball or forces a pass and Toledo takes a pick six to the house and it’s all downhill from there.
Make it:
Toledo 49
WMU 14
Post game presser, Lester continues to grin and smile saying what a good team Toledo is and how hard wmu played acting like the highest paid coach in the MAC and laughing all the way to the bank. In all honesty, if we didn’t have the seniors we have, I would rather not accept a bowl invite if we get one. But I want franklin to go out on a much better note (hopefully) then getting their butts handed to them
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11-23-2017 08:59 PM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
My only prediction: OVER 61.5
Biggest bet of the year.
Go Broncos!!!
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11-24-2017 11:27 AM |
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RE: Toledo predictions
(11-23-2017 08:44 AM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote: (11-22-2017 07:23 PM)JPWMU Wrote: Prediction? We’ll look uninterested and lose.
And then?!
A nap.
Nailed it!!
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11-24-2017 02:55 PM |
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