(11-18-2017 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Have you considered how the rankings were at the first of the year? Three almost 4 Big 10 teams in the top 10 for the first three weeks when.......the Big 10 stacks their opening with such games. Both conferences play 9 P5 games, as does the Big 12. Kudos needs to go to some select schools which play 10 or in rare examples 11 P5 games. But the vast majority of college football programs plays 9.

Did any of you ever study the commutative & associative laws of mathematics? 9 P5 plus 3 lesser = 3 lesser plus 9 P5 = 1 P5 plus 2 lesser plus 7 P5 plus 1 lesser plus 1 P5. In the end it's all the same and the constant whine over this annually is ridiculous.

And for the record San Jose State may not be as tough as Mercer or La Monroe. Maction has been down lately but still remains a steady diet for the Big 10. And not all directional Texas schools are equal either.

Big 14 schools are not playing MAC teams late in the year.

(11-18-2017 06:48 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Have you considered how the rankings were at the first of the year? Three almost 4 Big 10 teams in the top 10 for the first three weeks when.......the Big 10 stacks their opening with such games. Both conferences play 9 P5 games, as does the Big 12. Kudos needs to go to some select schools which play 10 or in rare examples 11 P5 games. But the vast majority of college football programs plays 9.

Did any of you ever study the commutative & associative laws of mathematics? 9 P5 plus 3 lesser = 3 lesser plus 9 P5 = 1 P5 plus 2 lesser plus 7 P5 plus 1 lesser plus 1 P5. In the end it's all the same and the constant whine over this annually is ridiculous.

And for the record San Jose State may not be as tough as Mercer or La Monroe. Maction has been down lately but still remains a steady diet for the Big 10. And not all directional Texas schools are equal either.

Big 14 schools are not playing MAC teams late in the year.

Playing 3 of them in the B1G is the same as playing 3 of them in the SEC it doesn't matter when they are played as each school is free to schedule as it sees fit. It's a non issue.

(11-18-2017 07:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 06:48 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Have you considered how the rankings were at the first of the year? Three almost 4 Big 10 teams in the top 10 for the first three weeks when.......the Big 10 stacks their opening with such games. Both conferences play 9 P5 games, as does the Big 12. Kudos needs to go to some select schools which play 10 or in rare examples 11 P5 games. But the vast majority of college football programs plays 9.

Did any of you ever study the commutative & associative laws of mathematics? 9 P5 plus 3 lesser = 3 lesser plus 9 P5 = 1 P5 plus 2 lesser plus 7 P5 plus 1 lesser plus 1 P5. In the end it's all the same and the constant whine over this annually is ridiculous.

And for the record San Jose State may not be as tough as Mercer or La Monroe. Maction has been down lately but still remains a steady diet for the Big 10. And not all directional Texas schools are equal either.

Big 14 schools are not playing MAC teams late in the year.

Playing 3 of them in the B1G is the same as playing 3 of them in the SEC it doesn't matter when they are played as each school is free to schedule as it sees fit. It's a non issue.

Twist it any way you want ,JRsec, but BIG isn't playing 3 MAC schools. 12 of the 14 play 10 P5 opponents, Purdue played 11.

"Schedule accordinly", "helping the little guys", "everybody is doing it", those arguments are old. The committee needs to confirm this and make it known Tuesday.

Mercer? Seriously? That is just ridiculous to your school, fans and team. I'll throw Citadel in there too.

Not knocking Mercer and Citadel but let's be realistic.

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(11-18-2017 06:35 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Also, who was Mississippi States P5 this year?

BYU. BYU and a few others were approved for the P5 requirement.

There is no evidence that the selection committee does not take this into consideration. In fact, strength of schedule is one of the factors they do consider. If a school thinks their SOS is strong enough to take a late season hit, and it is not against any rules, there is nothing to complain about.

The B1G, P12, et. al. coaches are not stupid. If they think there is a significant advantage they will move that UNLV game from September to November.

(11-19-2017 09:59 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The B1G, P12, et. al. coaches are not stupid. If they think there is a significant advantage they will move that UNLV game from September to November.

The coaches are not in control of such decisions. For example, the Pac-12 football coaches said a couple of years ago that the Pac should play only 8 conference games. Larry Scott promptly said, sorry, that's not happening.

The SEC lets its coaches and ADs build football schedules that maximize their best teams' chances of playoffs and higher rankings. Other conferences should do the same but don't.

(11-18-2017 09:40 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 06:48 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I've always hated this practice. I think it skews the committee rankings too. I don't think schools that play these late season cupcakes get penalized for a drop in strength of schedule like they should. Meanwhile schools in other conferences are playing tough conference games this week and not getting nearly as much credit for winning. Heaven forbid you lose a conference this late because you are most assuredly knocked out of playoff contention.

Have you considered how the rankings were at the first of the year? Three almost 4 Big 10 teams in the top 10 for the first three weeks when.......the Big 10 stacks their opening with such games. Both conferences play 9 P5 games, as does the Big 12. Kudos needs to go to some select schools which play 10 or in rare examples 11 P5 games. But the vast majority of college football programs plays 9.

Did any of you ever study the commutative & associative laws of mathematics? 9 P5 plus 3 lesser = 3 lesser plus 9 P5 = 1 P5 plus 2 lesser plus 7 P5 plus 1 lesser plus 1 P5. In the end it's all the same and the constant whine over this annually is ridiculous.

And for the record San Jose State may not be as tough as Mercer or La Monroe. Maction has been down lately but still remains a steady diet for the Big 10. And not all directional Texas schools are equal either.

Big 14 schools are not playing MAC teams late in the year.

Playing 3 of them in the B1G is the same as playing 3 of them in the SEC it doesn't matter when they are played as each school is free to schedule as it sees fit. It's a non issue.

Twist it any way you want ,JRsec, but BIG isn't playing 3 MAC schools. 12 of the 14 play 10 P5 opponents, Purdue played 11.

"Schedule accordinly", "helping the little guys", "everybody is doing it", those arguments are old. The committee needs to confirm this and make it known Tuesday.

Mercer? Seriously? That is just ridiculous to your school, fans and team. I'll throw Citadel in there too.

Not knocking Mercer and Citadel but let's be realistic.

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I'm helping out JRSec on this one. Mercer just re-started its football program not too long ago. It takes a lot of $$'s to actually start a team up and then keep it going until it can finally stand on its feet and it's even harder to do when you are a small private school. Alabama had $$'s and Mercer was willing to accept. No one put a gun to the Mercer's AD and forced him/her to accept the deal. He/She did it for the long term future of his football team!!!

A couple of other things too real quick: injuries are actually minimized in cold weather vs hot/temperate weather. I don't know about the North, but I can tell you that in the South, our seasons are different from yours. Our summer technically starts in May and doesn't end until mid-October. Fall actually starts in mid-October and goes to mid-late December, and our winter really starts in January and ends around March although sometimes it ends in April.

I wish they would go to 9 conference games for all P5 leagues. How hard is it to schedule a P5 h/h series and 2 pay day G5 games every year? You get 7 games and avoid playing 1-AA schools.

(11-19-2017 12:53 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I wish they would go to 9 conference games for all P5 leagues. How hard is it to schedule a P5 h/h series and 2 pay day G5 games every year? You get 7 games and avoid playing 1-AA schools.

And yet the G5 wants access to the playoffs playing 1 or 2 P5 programs...

There is nothing wrong with playing 1 FCS team. Message board fans are so competitive amongst each other. Other conferences do something one way and expect every other conference to do things their way.

What even more hilarious this the fact fans of teams are complaining that the SEC and some ACC teams choose to schedule a G5 or their FCS game late in the season vs early.

So Auburn played a G5, then @ Clemson, then our FCS who also happened to be Mercer (it's not a coincidence). We then went through 7 SEC games then scheduled another G5 before Alabama.

So we get the 9 P5 games. 1 FCS typically in state or regional to help fund their athletic departments, and typically 2 regionalish G5 teams.

I personally would have zero issues with going to 10 P5 games per season. We will always keep the FCS game though until told not too. We help fund those programs and whether 1 or 2 fans on a message board who wanna complain about it believe it or not, that is exactly why it's done.

Then for the final game we would schedule a G5. All this will do is further divide the P5 from the G5 though. As they will probably only get 1 or 2 total games against the P5.

What's even funnier though, is fans of other conferences apparently believe that, that one game is the reason the SEC is in the playoff hunt lol...

This is some super funny stuff here.

Look at the SEC West. Which is typically the best division in College Football every season and tell us again how awesome your team is for playing 3 or 5 or 6 teams with 2-4 wins.

(11-19-2017 01:40 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Feinbaum is picking up on the language of his favorite pro-'Bama chosen callers. The crudeness appeals to a certain audience, and is off-putting to others. That noted, he does have some excellent interviews and some educated callers. It is not balanced in the coverage of SEC schools, yet I am fairly certain Alabama is not paying for most of it. He can be very critical of certain SEC schools

I’ve watched his show and he’s either a P!$$ poor TV personality or just appealing to a "certain audience" as you have suggested....

Feinbaum appears to be embracing and adapting the language of his most favorite and crude callers to his show.

South Carolina and Clemson have long agreed to rotate playing one each in-state FCS school per year. That is a good thing for SC State, Wofford, Furman, The Citadel, etc. There is purpose beyond the cupcake idea. And both S. Carolina and Clemson, including each other, have played/scheduled 10 P5 games this year. Respective OCC opponents, NC Sate and Auburn are/were ranked choices.

(11-19-2017 12:53 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I wish they would go to 9 conference games for all P5 leagues. How hard is it to schedule a P5 h/h series and 2 pay day G5 games every year? You get 7 games and avoid playing 1-AA schools.

No, definitely not!! You can forget about the SEC playing other P5 games except for the staples of Florida-FSU, S.Carolina-Clemson, Louisville-Kentucky, and Georgia-Georgia Tech if the SEC goes to 9 games!!!!!

South Carolina and Clemson played cupcakes last week but both also play 10 P5 every year.

The SEC and the ACC don't have the built in cupcake conference game that the Big Slow and the Big XII - 2 has so we have to play out cupcake OOC.

(11-19-2017 09:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The SEC and the ACC don't have the built in cupcake conference game that the Big Slow and the Big XII - 2 has so we have to play out cupcake OOC.

B1G has 7 teams under .500. If Iowa loses @ Nebraska they will have 8 teams .500 or below.

The Big 12 has Kansas and Baylor which are both FCS level this season. Both are 1-10.

Hell Baylor lost to UT Martin and Liberty.

What these fans want the SEC and ACC to do is play harder schedules so they can use it against us. Some of these fans can't grasp the concept that even at 9 P5 games we still end up playing more quality opponents than them.

Wanna guess how many Wins Michigan had this season against teams with winning records?

I'll just tell you. Zero.

Wanna guess Wisnconsins?

I'll just tell you that too.

3 P5 2 G5.

G5 wins- Utah State 6-5 in a down MWC.
FAU from C-USA.


They are 11-0 even if they get to 12-0 regular season and beat Minnesota they have 7 wins against teams below .500.

No one really has anything solid to stand on. They are just bitter especially this season because they are struggling. Most message board fans know very little outside of their own bias.

(11-18-2017 08:57 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the SEC SEC SEC

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the SEC SEC SEC

Confused. Are you a Texas A&M cheerleader?
Go Aggies!