(11-19-2017 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Nick lead MTSU in scoring with 20 points (8/13) and had 5 rebounds in a win over TN State on the road.

Kermit Davis, holder of 2 NCAA Tourney wins including over Mich St the last two years, deemed King worthy but not Tubby. SMH.

You don't know that either. Why not focus on our team, as you love to say.

Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

(11-20-2017 12:53 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

Anybody blaming a kid for leaving after the way Pastner treated them is being obtuse. If it were my kid I’d tell them to leave and have some choice words for Josh for yanking minutes and playing mind games.

(11-20-2017 01:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 12:53 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

Anybody blaming a kid for leaving after the way Pastner treated them is being obtuse. If it were my kid I’d tell them to leave and have some choice words for Josh for yanking minutes and playing mind games.

I agree. But then, there's Alabama. They seem to have a pretty good coach and a pretty good team.

Listen, I hope he does well at MTSU, but the OP (as usual) blaming Tubby for taking a pass on a guy who has quit two teams -- one of 'em Memphis -- with no better stats than he had on his resume is just more of someone else's BS.

(11-20-2017 02:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 01:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 12:53 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

Anybody blaming a kid for leaving after the way Pastner treated them is being obtuse. If it were my kid I’d tell them to leave and have some choice words for Josh for yanking minutes and playing mind games.

I agree. But then, there's Alabama. They seem to have a pretty good coach and a pretty good team.

Listen, I hope he does well at MTSU, but the OP (as usual) blaming Tubby for taking a pass on a guy who has quit two teams -- one of 'em Memphis -- with no better stats than he had on his resume is just more of someone else's BS.

But that's the point, the OP implies but certainly doesn't know that our coach took a pass on King.

(11-19-2017 08:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Nick lead MTSU in scoring with 20 points (8/13) and had 5 rebounds in a win over TN State on the road.

Kermit Davis, holder of 2 NCAA Tourney wins including over Mich St the last two years, deemed King worthy but not Tubby. SMH.

You don't know that either. Why not focus on our team, as you love to say.

Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

(11-20-2017 04:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 02:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 01:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 12:53 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

Anybody blaming a kid for leaving after the way Pastner treated them is being obtuse. If it were my kid I’d tell them to leave and have some choice words for Josh for yanking minutes and playing mind games.

I agree. But then, there's Alabama. They seem to have a pretty good coach and a pretty good team.

Listen, I hope he does well at MTSU, but the OP (as usual) blaming Tubby for taking a pass on a guy who has quit two teams -- one of 'em Memphis -- with no better stats than he had on his resume is just more of someone else's BS.

But that's the point, the OP implies but certainly doesn't know that our coach took a pass on King.

Hey, I read it on here, so I know it's true.

(11-20-2017 05:06 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 04:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 02:49 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 01:11 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 12:53 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Nick King was out 1.5 week with an ankle sprain and when he returned not only had he been benched, he was taken completely out of the rotation. He went from starter to will-not-play.

This is why he left and also many others. Opie’s BS.

Anybody blaming a kid for leaving after the way Pastner treated them is being obtuse. If it were my kid I’d tell them to leave and have some choice words for Josh for yanking minutes and playing mind games.

I agree. But then, there's Alabama. They seem to have a pretty good coach and a pretty good team.

Listen, I hope he does well at MTSU, but the OP (as usual) blaming Tubby for taking a pass on a guy who has quit two teams -- one of 'em Memphis -- with no better stats than he had on his resume is just more of someone else's BS.

But that's the point, the OP implies but certainly doesn't know that our coach took a pass on King.

Hey, I read it on here, so I know it's true.

On here & with this OP, if he says it often enough he believes it & probably thinks he read it somewhere that counts, right or wrong. But let's focus on the team, you know.

(11-20-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Nick lead MTSU in scoring with 20 points (8/13) and had 5 rebounds in a win over TN State on the road.

Kermit Davis, holder of 2 NCAA Tourney wins including over Mich St the last two years, deemed King worthy but not Tubby. SMH.

You don't know that either. Why not focus on our team, as you love to say.

Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

Who?

(11-20-2017 05:45 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 12:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Nick lead MTSU in scoring with 20 points (8/13) and had 5 rebounds in a win over TN State on the road.

Kermit Davis, holder of 2 NCAA Tourney wins including over Mich St the last two years, deemed King worthy but not Tubby. SMH.

You don't know that either. Why not focus on our team, as you love to say.

Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

(11-20-2017 06:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 05:45 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  You don't know that either. Why not focus on our team, as you love to say.

Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

I cannot find a source stating that King wanted to come back to Memphis. You cannot find a source stating that Tubby tried to recruit him. IMO, we would know about it if Tubby tried.

What we do know as a fact is King is not playing for us and that his productivity to date would be an asset to our team. Tubby did not get King on board or find a replacement equalling King's production. Tubby failed.

I am pleased you are focusing on aspects on the team now. I enjoy conversing with other Tiger fans even when I disagree with them.

(11-20-2017 07:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 05:45 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Boxscore Source

A gentle reminder that Tubby is the coach of the Tigers and he is the most important part of the team. Hence, anything written about Tubby applies to the team.

Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

I cannot find a source stating that King wanted to come back to Memphis. You cannot find a source stating that Tubby tried to recruit him. IMO, we would know about it if Tubby tried.

What we do know as a fact is King is not playing for us and that his productivity to date would be an asset to our team. Tubby did not get King on board or find a replacement equalling King's production. Tubby failed.

I am pleased you are focusing on aspects on the team now. I enjoy conversing with other Tiger fans even when I disagree with them.

Your stickman is ridiculous. There are hundreds of players that any coach doesn't recruit but to somehow claim our coach failed by not recruiting a player who had previously quit Memphis & then another school...there are no words as too how ridiculous that logic. Sure we could probably use him or another couple of hundred players who signed & played for other schools. But Tubby is not involved in this case, so find something of real substance ABOUT OUR TEAM.

(11-20-2017 09:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 05:45 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 04:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Other than your misapplied statement, what has been written by a credible source about Tubby related to King? This is NTR........

What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

I cannot find a source stating that King wanted to come back to Memphis. You cannot find a source stating that Tubby tried to recruit him. IMO, we would know about it if Tubby tried.

What we do know as a fact is King is not playing for us and that his productivity to date would be an asset to our team. Tubby did not get King on board or find a replacement equalling King's production. Tubby failed.

I am pleased you are focusing on aspects on the team now. I enjoy conversing with other Tiger fans even when I disagree with them.

Your stickman is ridiculous. There are hundreds of players that any coach doesn't recruit but to somehow claim our coach failed by not recruiting a player who had previously quit Memphis & then another school...there are no words as too how ridiculous that logic. Sure we could probably use him or another couple of hundred players who signed & played for other schools. But Tubby is not involved in this case, so find something of real substance ABOUT OUR TEAM.

OK, I found a credible source (Jason Smith) making the following remark on a 3/30/17 Gary Parrish Podcast (Matt Stark was the guest host)(Go to About 41:55 Mark):

Quote:He (Nick King) clearly wanted to be at Memphis, made calls, and had people call for him, trying to get back to Memphis

1. The object of the game is winning.
2. The most important element to winning is having more talent than your opponent.
3. King is talented.
4. King was picked up by Kermit Davis - a coach recently winning games in the NCAA Tourney with vastly less resources than Memphis and at a lower salary Tubby. Nevertheless, he managed to sign King.
5. King has been more productive to date than any of Tubby's recruits.
6. Tubby did not bother to pursue King despite King and his surrogates making calls about returning to Memphis.

Tubby is well compensated and more than adequately resourced for success in a results oriented endeavor. He failed to obtain available talent to help when games. It is inexcusable.

(11-20-2017 11:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 05:45 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  What is your credible source stating that Tubby tried to sign King? I do not see it and we would know it from the various sources dedicated to reporting about the Tigers. Regardless, King was available and Tubby failed to obtain his services.

What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

I cannot find a source stating that King wanted to come back to Memphis. You cannot find a source stating that Tubby tried to recruit him. IMO, we would know about it if Tubby tried.

What we do know as a fact is King is not playing for us and that his productivity to date would be an asset to our team. Tubby did not get King on board or find a replacement equalling King's production. Tubby failed.

I am pleased you are focusing on aspects on the team now. I enjoy conversing with other Tiger fans even when I disagree with them.

Your stickman is ridiculous. There are hundreds of players that any coach doesn't recruit but to somehow claim our coach failed by not recruiting a player who had previously quit Memphis & then another school...there are no words as too how ridiculous that logic. Sure we could probably use him or another couple of hundred players who signed & played for other schools. But Tubby is not involved in this case, so find something of real substance ABOUT OUR TEAM.

OK, I found a credible source (Jason Smith) making the following remark on a 3/30/17 Gary Parrish Podcast (Matt Stark was the guest host)(Go to About 41:55 Mark):

Quote:He (Nick King) clearly wanted to be at Memphis, made calls, and had people call for him, trying to get back to Memphis

So credible there's nothing in print anywhere....SMH. Can you distinguish between reporting & opinion - lots of opinions around very little actual reporting. And our coach is supposed to consider a recruit who has quit Memphis, quit AL and wants to come back? Your delusion is strong.......you obviously know nothing about "team" & what it means to production.

(11-21-2017 08:01 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 11:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 09:39 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  What is your credible source that King wanted to come back to Memphis? But let's focus on the Memphis team, you know.

I cannot find a source stating that King wanted to come back to Memphis. You cannot find a source stating that Tubby tried to recruit him. IMO, we would know about it if Tubby tried.

What we do know as a fact is King is not playing for us and that his productivity to date would be an asset to our team. Tubby did not get King on board or find a replacement equalling King's production. Tubby failed.

I am pleased you are focusing on aspects on the team now. I enjoy conversing with other Tiger fans even when I disagree with them.

Your stickman is ridiculous. There are hundreds of players that any coach doesn't recruit but to somehow claim our coach failed by not recruiting a player who had previously quit Memphis & then another school...there are no words as too how ridiculous that logic. Sure we could probably use him or another couple of hundred players who signed & played for other schools. But Tubby is not involved in this case, so find something of real substance ABOUT OUR TEAM.

OK, I found a credible source (Jason Smith) making the following remark on a 3/30/17 Gary Parrish Podcast (Matt Stark was the guest host)(Go to About 41:55 Mark):

Quote:He (Nick King) clearly wanted to be at Memphis, made calls, and had people call for him, trying to get back to Memphis

So credible there's nothing in print anywhere....SMH. Can you distinguish between reporting & opinion - lots of opinions around very little actual reporting. And our coach is supposed to consider a recruit who has quit Memphis, quit AL and wants to come back? Your delusion is strong.......you obviously know nothing about "team" & what it means to production.

Jason Smith stated it as a fact and he is a credible source.

It matters not that it is printed, but if you must see it in print please see the transcript on the website.

The fact is Tubby had an opportunity to improve the team and failed to do it.

King lead MTSU in scoring with 25 points (including 10-10 from the line) and added seven rebounds in MTSU’s win over Florida Gulf Coast on 11/21/17.

(11-21-2017 11:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  King lead MTSU in scoring with 25 points (including 10-10 from the line) and added seven rebounds in MTSU’s win over Florida Gulf Coast on 11/21/17.

NTR......he quit here, then another school. Tells me and anyone else without such bias he doesn't want to be here & we don't need quitters if he did.

(11-22-2017 07:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 11:09 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  King lead MTSU in scoring with 25 points (including 10-10 from the line) and added seven rebounds in MTSU’s win over Florida Gulf Coast on 11/21/17.

NTR......he quit here, then another school. Tells me and anyone else without such bias he doesn't want to be here & we don't need quitters if he did.

King has not quit on MTSU. Indeed, he is the main engine driving the team.

The MTSU coach, recent winner of NCAA Tourney games, saw that Nick would help his team win. Tubby, OTOH, snubbed King. Tubby failed and it has hurt our team’s ability to win (the object of the game).