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UCF should tank vs Temple
If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3
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Scott Frost is angling for generational money at a football factory. He'll hang half a hundred on Temple.
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Why? The rest of our schedule is cupcakes till our bowl game.

The only challenging game is Memphis and we already spanked them this year.

Lets breeze through some cupcakes and rest up after the championship.

The starters have been blowing teams out and resting most of the 2nd half anyways.
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(11-15-2017 09:00 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Why? The rest of our schedule is cupcakes till our bowl game.

The only challenging game is Memphis and we already spanked them this year.

Lets breeze through some cupcakes and rest up after the championship.

The starters have been blowing teams out and resting most of the 2nd half anyways.

Haha can't wait for the excuses when we beat you
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Quo is the guy who calls other USF fans out for being fake
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We've come too far in the last few years for our 'Super Bowl' to be a meaningless conference game in a season where we're looking at 6 or 7 regular season wins.
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(11-15-2017 09:00 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Why? The rest of our schedule is cupcakes till our bowl game.

The only challenging game is Memphis and we already spanked them this year.

Lets breeze through some cupcakes and rest up after the championship.

The starters have been blowing teams out and resting most of the 2nd half anyways.

I'm sure you will spank Memphis again. Nothing to worry about.
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The three teams left for UCF to beat before the bowl game will not be favored. If UCF plays its best and the next 3 teams play their best, UCF should win all 3. So what is UCF's biggest obstacle? Complacency.
Gabe Davis (UCF freshman WR/TE) said after the team went up 21-3 in the first quarter against UCONN everyone kind of shut it down. They weren't told to. The coaches probably were yelling and trying to fire them up. They've become numb to winning. They've started to expect it.
Just like the 0-12 UCF team got conditioned to lose, this team has gotten conditioned to win. So when 0-12 UCF went down 2 scores they'd say, "meh, next week". This 9-0 team goes up 2 scores and says, "yep, another blowout, cruise control".

The point is, the WORST thing UCF can do, is for the coaches to signal to the team that they don't need their best effort. The team seems to already believe that, they don't need it reinforced by the coaching staff.
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(11-15-2017 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3

Ftr, and this is true by the way, UCF has been intermittently resting guys throughout the season by not dressing them, last week Jordan Akins sat.
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(11-15-2017 10:06 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(11-15-2017 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3

Ftr, and this is true by the way, UCF has been intermittently resting guys throughout the season by not dressing them, last week Jordan Akins sat.

You play to win every game no matter what. But resting guys has its benefits. Richard Sherman wrote a good article on how Thursday night nfl games are very hard on players which is why they’re so sloppy generally. I’ll try and find it to link it later. That’s the only thing that worries me down the stretch is we lost our bye week and usf gets a couple extra days rest and a bye. I think we are the better and more talented team but if we aren’t rested and banged up sloppy play could blow it.
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Superior trolling by Quo
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(11-15-2017 10:12 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Superior trolling by Quo

Sorry, but that’s 2nd grade level stuff............as usual.
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(11-15-2017 10:45 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(11-15-2017 10:12 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Superior trolling by Quo

Sorry, but that’s 2nd grade level stuff............as usual.

Yes, but he got everyone involved which is all it takes
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I’m sure his family is proud
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(11-15-2017 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3

I will drink to that idea 04-cheers
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(11-15-2017 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3

No, b/c that would tank our rankings, and a high ranking is extremely important. They impact a lot more than the playoff spots... especially for a G5 school like us.

- Higher rankings helps elevate the national perception of our program.
- Higher perception helps us get chosen for better bowl games in years we don't go to a NY6 bowl... which gives us more exposure and more bowl revenue.
- Higher rankings obviously helps with our recruiting to continue to build on what we have going and sustain it.
- Higher rankings help increase the perception of our conference, which leads to bigger TV deals and more resources.

Purposely throwing away a high ranking would be suicidal... and would ruin the exposure our game will generate for both of our programs next week as well.
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(11-15-2017 09:50 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  The three teams left for UCF to beat before the bowl game will not be favored. If UCF plays its best and the next 3 teams play their best, UCF should win all 3. So what is UCF's biggest obstacle? Complacency.
Gabe Davis (UCF freshman WR/TE) said after the team went up 21-3 in the first quarter against UCONN everyone kind of shut it down. They weren't told to. The coaches probably were yelling and trying to fire them up. They've become numb to winning. They've started to expect it.
Just like the 0-12 UCF team got conditioned to lose, this team has gotten conditioned to win. So when 0-12 UCF went down 2 scores they'd say, "meh, next week". This 9-0 team goes up 2 scores and says, "yep, another blowout, cruise control".

The point is, the WORST thing UCF can do, is for the coaches to signal to the team that they don't need their best effort. The team seems to already believe that, they don't need it reinforced by the coaching staff.

Yep. This is how the "I'll take this week off and somebody else will pick up the slack" mentality forms. Ultimately you get to week where nobody picks up the slack.
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(11-15-2017 01:06 PM)KnightNasty Wrote:  
(11-15-2017 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I'm UCF, i go in to the tank versus Temple. By which i mean i rest a lot of starters and don't show anything offensively. The game is meaningless for UCF, winning it doesn't help them achieve any goals, losing doesn't hurt, either way UCF controls its destiny in terms of winning the AAC and making an NY6 bowl.

Plus, a cold-weather game means higher chances for injuries, and this game will be Temple's "super bowl" so they will be riled up and hitting hard. Right now the Temple coach is probably telling his guys "win or lose, lets make sure we kick their arse all game".

So UCF should be sending a skeleton crew up to Philly this weekend. For that reason, I hope they don't take my advice. 07-coffee3

No, b/c that would tank our rankings, and a high ranking is extremely important. They impact a lot more than the playoff spots... especially for a G5 school like us.

- Higher rankings helps elevate the national perception of our program.
- Higher perception helps us get chosen for better bowl games in years we don't go to a NY6 bowl... which gives us more exposure and more bowl revenue.
- Higher rankings obviously helps with our recruiting to continue to build on what we have going and sustain it.
- Higher rankings help increase the perception of our conference, which leads to bigger TV deals and more resources.

Purposely throwing away a high ranking would be suicidal... and would ruin the exposure our game will generate for both of our programs next week as well.

No question, a higher ranking brings more publicity, which is a good thing.

But, the downside risk is too great. Get injured and beat up in Philly, and you reduce your chances of beating USF, and if you lose to USF, everything - the AAC title and NY6 bowl - go out the window, and then you take a far greater media and perception hit than if you tanked at Temple but then beat USF, won the AAC, and advanced to an NY6 bowl.

So the downside is just way worse than the upside of being ranked #14 in the CFP as opposed to say #24 if you lose to Temple going in to the USF game.
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That one extra loss certainly would take a toll on next years pre-season rankings, even if they won the NY6 bowl. It's all about perception. Not everyone starts at the same starting line in the beginning of the year.
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(11-15-2017 04:13 PM)otown Wrote:  That one extra loss certainly would take a toll on next years pre-season rankings, even if they won the NY6 bowl.

I don't think anyone would remember that loss at all if UCF did win the NY6 bowl.
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