All this talk about laziness but does anyone know how hard is it to take strokes off your golf game? Tubby does. Takes a lot of practice.

Guess we're at the point where it comes down to when the administration decides to go in a different direction and if the money is there to do so. Cant imagine how much revenue they've already lost for this screw up.

Remember that feeling when JP got the offer from GTech? “Bailed out!” “Can only go up from here!”

And then we gave Tubby 3mil/yr GUARANTEED. it has gotten and is going to get worse

We deserve this for being “stoopid”

(11-13-2017 10:35 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:18 AM)Dylan Wrote:  well, at least there doesn't appear to be any evidence that hope is on the horizon...

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basket...erence=AAC

yep, we are ranked last..

In fairness, the early and late signing periods have not ended. However, just as we were pleased that we lead the conference last season, so too should we be concerned we are last now under the same ranking site.

I get it, the point was more towards the people that keep making excuses for our lack of recruiting. There are already 3 four star players signed in our conference and 10 three star players ranked higher than our lone commit/signee. That's out of 17 total players that have been brought in.

Yet, there’s not 1 program in our conference with more to offer than Memphis. Smh

(11-13-2017 09:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Geoff's takes:

We might really have had something if Crawford and the Lawsons had stayed.
Weren't they all on the last two teams? That stunk? With higher rated players around them both years? How would that have worked, Geoff? The Lawsons and Crawford didn't make the last two teams worth diddly, but they could have made this one "something?" The man makes stuff up out of thin air.

Good lord.

If you surround a great college player and two good college players with:

-a 2* frosh who has no business getting more than garbage time
-a 6'10 guy who has done nothing but play church league ball the past four years and is an injury waiting to happen
-a transfer from a 9-22 Coppin State team
-an ok JUCO wing who is forced to play the 5

What in the heck would you expect from that team?


To say, "well what good did they do when they were here?" is just so shortsighted.

If Tubby had gotten off his lazy ass in 2016 and surrounded those three players with more than the flotsam listed above, the team could have been an at-large team.

Instead, Tubby stuck by his tried and true "don't win too early" mantra and bragged about "meeting expectations."

"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th. Why are people complaining?

That's neither here nor there. What he implied is that the Lawsons would've done better with the players we saw Friday night than they actually did with Tarrant, Shaq, Burrell, Woodson, etc. And that, my friend, is typical "I-type-by-feel" Geoff, and anyone who believes it is nutz.

Well the Lawsons would have been surrounded by good role players willing to give it up for them.

(11-13-2017 02:43 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 09:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Geoff's takes:

We might really have had something if Crawford and the Lawsons had stayed.
Weren't they all on the last two teams? That stunk? With higher rated players around them both years? How would that have worked, Geoff? The Lawsons and Crawford didn't make the last two teams worth diddly, but they could have made this one "something?" The man makes stuff up out of thin air.

Good lord.

If you surround a great college player and two good college players with:

-a 2* frosh who has no business getting more than garbage time
-a 6'10 guy who has done nothing but play church league ball the past four years and is an injury waiting to happen
-a transfer from a 9-22 Coppin State team
-an ok JUCO wing who is forced to play the 5

What in the heck would you expect from that team?


To say, "well what good did they do when they were here?" is just so shortsighted.

If Tubby had gotten off his lazy ass in 2016 and surrounded those three players with more than the flotsam listed above, the team could have been an at-large team.

Instead, Tubby stuck by his tried and true "don't win too early" mantra and bragged about "meeting expectations."

"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th. Why are people complaining?

That's neither here nor there. What he implied is that the Lawsons would've done better with the players we saw Friday night than they actually did with Tarrant, Shaq, Burrell, Woodson, etc. And that, my friend, is typical "I-type-by-feel" Geoff, and anyone who believes it is nutz.

Who was coaching Dedric when he was a frosh?

Was Dedric, joining a veteran squad, asked to be the main scorer or just to fit in as a frosh and follow the lead of the other guys?

I think folks should "wait and see" how good or bad the Lawsons turn out to be.

(11-13-2017 02:43 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 09:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Geoff's takes:

We might really have had something if Crawford and the Lawsons had stayed.
Weren't they all on the last two teams? That stunk? With higher rated players around them both years? How would that have worked, Geoff? The Lawsons and Crawford didn't make the last two teams worth diddly, but they could have made this one "something?" The man makes stuff up out of thin air.

Good lord.

If you surround a great college player and two good college players with:

-a 2* frosh who has no business getting more than garbage time
-a 6'10 guy who has done nothing but play church league ball the past four years and is an injury waiting to happen
-a transfer from a 9-22 Coppin State team
-an ok JUCO wing who is forced to play the 5

What in the heck would you expect from that team?


To say, "well what good did they do when they were here?" is just so shortsighted.

If Tubby had gotten off his lazy ass in 2016 and surrounded those three players with more than the flotsam listed above, the team could have been an at-large team.

Instead, Tubby stuck by his tried and true "don't win too early" mantra and bragged about "meeting expectations."

"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th. Why are people complaining?

That's neither here nor there. What he implied is that the Lawsons would've done better with the players we saw Friday night than they actually did with Tarrant, Shaq, Burrell, Woodson, etc. And that, my friend, is typical "I-type-by-feel" Geoff, and anyone who believes it is nutz.

The TEAM would have done better Friday WITH the Lawsons and Markel than they did WITHOUT them. Anyone who believes they wouldn't have has completely lost their marbles.

(11-13-2017 11:38 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  Remember that feeling when JP got the offer from GTech? “Bailed out!” “Can only go up from here!”

And then we gave Tubby 3mil/yr GUARANTEED. it has gotten and is going to get worse

We deserve this for being “stoopid”

(11-13-2017 03:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 02:43 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 09:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Geoff's takes:

We might really have had something if Crawford and the Lawsons had stayed.
Weren't they all on the last two teams? That stunk? With higher rated players around them both years? How would that have worked, Geoff? The Lawsons and Crawford didn't make the last two teams worth diddly, but they could have made this one "something?" The man makes stuff up out of thin air.

Good lord.

If you surround a great college player and two good college players with:

-a 2* frosh who has no business getting more than garbage time
-a 6'10 guy who has done nothing but play church league ball the past four years and is an injury waiting to happen
-a transfer from a 9-22 Coppin State team
-an ok JUCO wing who is forced to play the 5

What in the heck would you expect from that team?


To say, "well what good did they do when they were here?" is just so shortsighted.

If Tubby had gotten off his lazy ass in 2016 and surrounded those three players with more than the flotsam listed above, the team could have been an at-large team.

Instead, Tubby stuck by his tried and true "don't win too early" mantra and bragged about "meeting expectations."

"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th. Why are people complaining?

That's neither here nor there. What he implied is that the Lawsons would've done better with the players we saw Friday night than they actually did with Tarrant, Shaq, Burrell, Woodson, etc. And that, my friend, is typical "I-type-by-feel" Geoff, and anyone who believes it is nutz.

The TEAM would have done better Friday WITH the Lawsons and Markel than they did WITHOUT them. Anyone who believes they wouldn't have has completely lost their marbles.

Do you think there are people that believe if Memphis had the Lawson's out there last Friday that Memphis would have done worse than they did already?

If so, those are some sad people.

(11-13-2017 03:16 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I think folks should "wait and see" how good or bad the Lawsons turn out to be.

(11-13-2017 03:25 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 03:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 02:43 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 09:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:45 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Geoff's takes:

We might really have had something if Crawford and the Lawsons had stayed.
Weren't they all on the last two teams? That stunk? With higher rated players around them both years? How would that have worked, Geoff? The Lawsons and Crawford didn't make the last two teams worth diddly, but they could have made this one "something?" The man makes stuff up out of thin air.

Good lord.

If you surround a great college player and two good college players with:

-a 2* frosh who has no business getting more than garbage time
-a 6'10 guy who has done nothing but play church league ball the past four years and is an injury waiting to happen
-a transfer from a 9-22 Coppin State team
-an ok JUCO wing who is forced to play the 5

What in the heck would you expect from that team?


To say, "well what good did they do when they were here?" is just so shortsighted.

If Tubby had gotten off his lazy ass in 2016 and surrounded those three players with more than the flotsam listed above, the team could have been an at-large team.

Instead, Tubby stuck by his tried and true "don't win too early" mantra and bragged about "meeting expectations."

"We were picked to finish 5th and we finished 5th. Why are people complaining?

That's neither here nor there. What he implied is that the Lawsons would've done better with the players we saw Friday night than they actually did with Tarrant, Shaq, Burrell, Woodson, etc. And that, my friend, is typical "I-type-by-feel" Geoff, and anyone who believes it is nutz.

The TEAM would have done better Friday WITH the Lawsons and Markel than they did WITHOUT them. Anyone who believes they wouldn't have has completely lost their marbles.

Do you think there are people that believe if Memphis had the Lawson's out there last Friday that Memphis would have done worse than they did already?

If so, those are some sad people.

That's exactly what he is saying. He is one of the geniuses that says that we sucked with them so what is the difference without them?

(11-13-2017 11:38 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  Remember that feeling when JP got the offer from GTech? “Bailed out!” “Can only go up from here!”

And then we gave Tubby 3mil/yr GUARANTEED. it has gotten and is going to get worse

We deserve this for being “stoopid”

This

Just a matter of economics now. How long will the admin let the program lose $$$ until a change is made. The guys isn't going to recruit or win at a high level. Not to mention, once a change is made, it will take a new coach 2 years minimum to restock the roster with legit D 1 players. Tiger basketball is done for the foreseeable future.

Wait...I'm serious. We do have more games this season.

Let's don't cave all the way...just yet.

I mean who expected us to be good at the beginning of the season?

This is the worst Tiger team I can ever remembering seeing. Started watching in the early 80s

According to Jason Smith today, he sees what goes on behind the scenes and it isn’t good. 2 of 3 assistants are doing little more than collecting checks on the recruiting trail. One of the 2 threatened to beat his ...ahem... “booty”

(11-13-2017 04:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  According to Jason Smith today, he sees what goes on behind the scenes and it isn’t good. 2 of 3 assistants are doing little more than collecting checks on the recruiting trail. One of the 2 threatened to beat his ...ahem... “booty”

And bless Esposito's heart but he isn't a blue chip recruiter. He's a blue collar guy.

As much praise as he gets for being the only guy bringing in players, he's is also the guy bringing in the JUCO's and 200+ recruits. And missing out on the top 100 guys.

The problem with BAM is the problem with the team. You have C-listers forced into the role where the A-listers should be.

(11-13-2017 04:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  According to Jason Smith today, he sees what goes on behind the scenes and it isn’t good. 2 of 3 assistants are doing little more than collecting checks on the recruiting trail. One of the 2 threatened to beat his ...ahem... “booty”

good grief.

Was it the one holding his crotch or the other one?

It's gonna get a lot worse.