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Huesman’s bonehead call
What was Huesman thinking on the fake FG ?
He had a 33yard FG attempt with 9 minutes left in the game to tie the number #1 team in the nation. He also has an all-American kicker that makes that situation about as automatic as it gets in college football.

I expected a fake kick somewhere in the game, but that situation was completely wrong. He cost his team a lot of leverage.

He tried to explain it away in the postgame press conference, but ddn’t really address why he would call it in that situation.

Thanks coach Huesman!
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11-12-2017 09:56 AM
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(11-12-2017 09:56 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  What was Huesman thinking on the fake FG ?
He had a 33yard FG attempt with 9 minutes left in the game to tie the number #1 team in the nation. He also has an all-American kicker that makes that situation about as automatic as it gets in college football.

I expected a fake kick somewhere in the game, but that situation was completely wrong. He cost his team a lot of leverage.

He tried to explain it away in the postgame press conference, but ddn’t really address why he would call it in that situation.

Thanks coach Huesman!
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They were 5-4 and at that point really had nothing to loose in my opinion. I understand the call as they were going for the win and a TD would have put a ton of pressure on our O. Thankfully our guys were in the right position and made the play. It was a gamble and they lost.
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Great read and reaction by the Dukes to stuff the fake. No one in the stands in Section 210 I was talking with expected the call. Kudos to the D for shutting the ticks down!!

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11-12-2017 10:27 AM
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Great job by the D, and glad to have this “on tape” .. will make other teams think twice about planning/going for a fake.
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When asked during the press conference about the fake kick and being prepared for it, Houston had a really odd smile on his face. Makes me think they saw something on film or Houston knew a trend from coaching against Huesman in the past.
11-12-2017 10:36 AM
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Who was the defender who initiated that tackle on the fake FG attempt? He deserves caa defensive player of the week. Absolutely clutch moment for the defense.
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(11-12-2017 10:59 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Who was the defender who initiated that tackle on the fake FG attempt? He deserves caa defensive player of the week. Absolutely clutch moment for the defense.

According to Madia's story this morning it was Hawkins.
11-12-2017 11:09 AM
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We made some boneheaded calls too.

We won because we were slightly better on the day
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(11-12-2017 10:36 AM)olddawg Wrote:  When asked during the press conference about the fake kick and being prepared for it, Houston had a really odd smile on his face. Makes me think they saw something on film or Houston knew a trend from coaching against Huesman in the past.
Spider fan here. Our radio play by play guy alluded to the possibility of a fake right before the play. If our radio guy knew it, your Coach would have seen it.. That was coaching. JMU had, Richmond didn't.
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I thought they'd go onsides on the kickoff after the TD and unsportsmanlike penalty (sound familiar).
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I think it was a case of poor execution of a good idea. What cued me to the fake was their kicker- most take their time lining it up and have little ritual patterns. He rushed it and his body language seemed like he didn't care. Brown also helped by getting himself and his blocker to plug things up. We just have too much speed and aggression for that nonsense.
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(11-12-2017 11:31 AM)2Buck Wrote:  I think it was a case of poor execution of a good idea. What cued me to the fake was their kicker- most take their time lining it up and have little ritual patterns. He rushed it and his body language seemed like he didn't care. Brown also helped by getting himself and his blocker to plug things up. We just have too much speed and aggression for that nonsense.
Yup. Jordan Brown was first man in and stalled the runner's progress by clogging things up. Because the runner had to move laterally around them, he was unable to use his momentum to get the extra yard when hit by Hawkins.
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Was surprised how many on the Tick board blamed the holder, asserting that he stupidly ran into the pile when there was a crease if he'd broken it a little to the right. In watching the replay, my thought was, "Yeah, kind of." I think it happens all the time that there are alleys to run in that are A LOT more apparent on TV or in the stands then they are on the field at full speed.

Some of our fans are capable of geting manic depressive and a little weird over every little bump in the road (like the guy near me who kept saying loudly at the start of the last drive that we needed to not be running the ball :-)), but I'm surpised at the strength on the other side for the view that,

1. Your grandmother would have gotten the first down on the fake FG,
2. Simpson simply dropped a TD pass (not that it was close and what actually happened is that Lauletta overthrew it by just enough), and
3. Woudn't have mattered because the refs would have given us the game anyway.

I've been known not to take some losses well, but damn! Great effort by the Ticks. My call going in was that to win they needed to get positive contributions in some area of the game besides their offense. Their D gave them that. Maybe they are turning that around, and maybe they're Maine (played over their head in the big game against us), but we were able to offset that by slowing down their O more than you might have thought we would.

And yeah, going for the fake wasn't the worst call I've ever seen. And they almost made it. And we gave them the ball right back, and they got the 3 anyway. I thought it was more interesting how they were clearly milking the clock in a way that I don't think is really their style. They weren't ahead or even tied when they were doing this. Sure seems like they could have used some of that time after we scored the TD. :-)
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(11-12-2017 11:17 AM)Stonewall D Wrote:  
(11-12-2017 10:36 AM)olddawg Wrote:  When asked during the press conference about the fake kick and being prepared for it, Houston had a really odd smile on his face. Makes me think they saw something on film or Houston knew a trend from coaching against Huesman in the past.
Spider fan here. Our radio play by play guy alluded to the possibility of a fake right before the play. If our radio guy knew it, your Coach would have seen it.. That was coaching. JMU had, Richmond didn't.

I had this happen to me in NCAA Football 06 once on PS2. Freaking Virtual Lee Corso, man. I hated that guy in real life for like three years after that.
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I thought the call was a good one.

Down 3 late on the road against #1 and fighting for your playoff bid.
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Wasn't it also only like 4th and 2? I would 100% support the call if we were in that position.

Having a chubby placekicker limits your fake options, however. A lot of teams like to take the snap and then pitch to the kicker to get the corner on the far side. Griffin Trau isn't waddling around the corner on a middle school team. With a slow kicker it would probably make more sense to have a reserve WR be the holder and not a back-up quarterback.

Also shocked they didn't try the onside kick at midfield.
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I'm all for aggressive play calling and playing to win but that was not the time for it (if you're a Richmond fan:)) The resilience Bryan Schor showed after fumbling the ball away and wiping it from his memory and then leading us to the winning score was remarkable. The first down he picked up on 3rd & 4 was all about heart and desire, and basically broke Richmonds back. If they force a FG there who knows what happens with 1 min remaining, but a touchdown ended the ballgame and they knew it.
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Watching the game, I was yelling at the TV, "watch for the fake!!" and sure enough...
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That run was epic. Career Top 10 play for him in my opinion.
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That's one of those plays where if they made it, he'd be called a genius.
If I was a UR fan, the thing that would concern me most were his comments afterwards about how JMU covered it and MH saying that nothing was different. He obviously missed something. Good on him for owning up to it, but his comments kind of make it appear he didn't do all his homework.
I thought the biggest giveaway was that the kicker didn't sell the play. Everyone has to do their part, and he definitely didn't.
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