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RE: Will USM ever leave CUSA?
(11-12-2017 11:49 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  BYU went Indy and their football program has flushed down the toilet.

so its where ours is now for the most part. i think going Indy is one of the only things we can do to generate a significant amount of needed funds that can be used to hire and retain a good coach (the key to winning consistently) and spark some needed interest in the program. not saying its easy, but it could be accomplished imo.
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RE: Will USM ever leave CUSA?
(11-11-2017 10:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 10:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 08:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 09:32 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 09:00 AM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  From a football perspective, this is absolutely absurd even for the biggest CUSA fan. It’s mid-November and they have 3 ranked teams (UCF, USF & Memphis), all of which will end up with 10 win regular season records and any of would win our conference hands down. After that, then they have 3 other teams (Houston, Navy & SMU) that would likely win CUSA this season.


I disagree completely. UCF's biggest non-conference win was over a Maryland team that is going to finish 4-8. USF's biggest non-conference win was over an Illinois team that is going to finish 2-10 and UM's biggest win is over a UCLA team that could finish 4-8. It is just the way things fell this year. Our conference is top to bottom much better this year. We should take note of what the AAC is doing and schedule lower tier non-conference teams.

i dont care about the the conference realignment argument, i believe you have to make the best of your situation..

but i just want to point out how the highlighted debate would work anywhere but the c-usa forum...literally anywhere else...the reason people are mocking usf and ucf schedule is because the best teams in c-usa doesn't get respect from the national media

--navy blew out fau..the favorite to win all of c-usa (navy is likely to finish 5-7th in the AAC)
--ucf blew out fiu. the #2 favorite to win c-usa

--smu blew out unt, who will win c-usa west (smu will finish 5-7th in the AAC)
--UM's biggest win is navy or houston, not ucla
--Houston already beat 6-3 Arizona that has a Heisman candidate

"Our conference is top to bottom much better this year" ???
--the AAC's worst team, ECU, beat byu (who beat middling mwc teams)....Arguably second to worst team, tulane, has a win over a 8 win army

are you basing your argument on bowl eligibility?..parity to get more bowl teams doesnt mean better ..the pac 12 will have the most bowl teams this year, but is considered the worst p5 this year....their bowl teams doesnt mean they are better than the SEC or that they are top to bottom better

ive seem a few posts in this forum that this year the AAC isnt better, its just perceptions. but we at the aac are the delusional ones?

I don't buy that. FIU and FAU had new coaches playing in their only first games under the new regimes.

Today FAU blows out Navy, and, at the very least, FIU should have a closer game against UCF

why? because fau/fiu started winning c-usa games??

that navy game wasnt even close

if it was just fiu and fau i might buy that....but its not...unt, uab...all looked bad in ooc but all magically figure it out in conference play..all your top teams!!

uab is returning from a self imposed death penalty and is projected to win 8 games ..on its first year!...that shouldnt be happening at any truly competitive league

we had this debate with some fau fans in the AAC forum... i get that as a fau fan you want to believe you just got THAT MUCH BETTER!!!!
but any logical person not biased can see the level of play in the c-usa this year is very low...allowing the better of all those bad teams to look better than they should

you arent blowing out navy, thats a fact..ucf and memphis barely beat navy but fau is winning 20+ ridiculous

A lot of it has to do with the new coaches system and chemistry. FAU got a good coach in Kiffin.

I can 100% agree that FAU has improved dramatically over the course of the season regardless of competition. They wouldn't win the AAC or a P5 conference but I do believe they would be more competitive if they played Navy again.

FAU didn't have a this kind of success before Kiffin in recent years. He brought in some recruits, and he had to work with what was available at FAU when he got there.

2016: 3-9 (2-6)
2015: 3-9 (3-5)
2014: 3-9 (2-6)

I agree C-USA isn't that good this season, but there has to be some kind of respect for what Kiffin has been able to do so far this season. It's not like he took over a competitive team even in the conference. They were horrible before he got there.

Personally, I don't think they would roll Navy but it would be a much better game if they were to play again.
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Will USM ever leave CUSA?
Northern Illinois

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To the AAC

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Sweet, and I'll go with that!!
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RE: Will USM ever leave CUSA?
(11-13-2017 12:03 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(11-12-2017 11:49 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  BYU went Indy and their football program has flushed down the toilet.

so its where ours is now for the most part. i think going Indy is one of the only things we can do to generate a significant amount of needed funds that can be used to hire and retain a good coach (the key to winning consistently) and spark some needed interest in the program. not saying its easy, but it could be accomplished imo.

How would going indy help generate funds? You'd need to take on another payday game just to make up the money lost from CFP/Conference payouts. Playing a more interesting schedule might help attendance/contributions but a lot of the better teams on your schedule will be away games anyway. Not to mention finding another conference for your other sports. What options would there be for USM on that front? Southland?
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(11-12-2017 09:04 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 01:44 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  So Miss, Marshall, UAB, and Rice should all go Independent and then work with each other to help with scheduling early on.

I would love to be Independent with a home-home every year with So Miss and UAB.

I didn't even think about all the money games a team could play. 3 buy games bringing in around $5 million/year would be pretty significant. More flexible dates could also open up opportunities to get more 1-1s with P5s or even 2-1s with some of the upper level P5s.

I could see this working because UMass and Army would be up to play as well, but what would you do for basketball?



Sorry, I just saw this because I didn't realize it had been moved to another board.

Just about any D1 conference would be the same as CUSA in basketball. Pretty sure the conference finished around 25th last year in conference RPI. I know its early, but the conference was 30th when I checked earlier today so how much worse could it be?

OVC, CAA would be good fits.
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(11-14-2017 02:15 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Northern Illinois

Southern Mississippi

To the AAC

"Teh Symmetry"

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You had me then you lost me at southern miss. If the aac expands it’ll be out west to shore up sos.
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RE: Will USM ever leave CUSA?
(11-12-2017 11:49 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  BYU went Indy and their football program has flushed down the toilet.

I dont know about that. I think the issue is they lost a good coach and replaced him with one that doesnt appear to be working out.
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(11-11-2017 09:40 AM)Limebull Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 08:24 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Leave to go where? The AAC isn't a better conference. C-USA could have 11 teams with winning records by the end of the season.

I admire the support of your conference... but come on

I get your point; but it's all relative. I mean it's not like any of the current AAC schools actually want to be in the AAC either.
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(11-16-2017 09:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 09:40 AM)Limebull Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 08:24 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Leave to go where? The AAC isn't a better conference. C-USA could have 11 teams with winning records by the end of the season.

I admire the support of your conference... but come on

I get your point; but it's all relative. I mean it's not like any of the current AAC schools actually want to be in the AAC either.

True. But none would leave for CUSA, even if entry/exit fees were waived. The AAC schools want to move to a power conference (same as any G5 school).
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