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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
(11-10-2017 02:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 01:26 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  I'd LOVE for the Blue Hens to jump up to FBS. They have been a power in FCS for years. They have a great fan base and great tradition in FB. The MAC would be a great spot for them.

After a few years at the FBS level along with JMU in the MAC i'd love to see an eastern G5 level conference form.

North: Del, UMass, Buffalo, Army, ODU, JMU

South: Marshall, App State, Coastal Carolina, Charolette, Georgia Southern, Georgia St


Stony Brook, Albany, Towson, and maybe New Hampshire all could make the move to FBS. They could see how Liberty do for Independent status at FBS, and they all could go Independent, and reform a new G5 conference in the future.
I do think Coastal, Charlotte, and the Georgia twins are too far south for them to go with the northern schools.

UMass.
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire
Towson
Marshall
Appalachian State
James Madison
Delaware
Youngstown State
VCU starts football to join them at the FBS level? Them or ODU for the 12th spot.

That would be better than going all the way down to Georgia.

1. VCU is not starting football
2. VCU is not starting football so they can leave the A-10 for a barely top-20 basketball conference, which this would be
3. VCU is not starting football

Please, please, PLEASE show your work or stop your delusion.
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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
If we’re going to make a new FBS conference:

C-USA offers Delaware and James Madison football only membership starting with the 2024 football season.

In 2025, The CAA invites Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, App State, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern effective July 1, 2026. UMass joins for football only. Stony Brook eventually moves up and effectively swaps with Hofstra.

In an attempt to rebuild its eastern flank, the Sun Belt invites Florida Atlantic, Florida International, and non-football UNC-Wilmington. New Mexico State joins for football only.

CAA:
JMU, ODU, UD, MU, App, UNCC, GS, GSU, SB, UMass*
Non-football: CofC, Elon, Drexel, Towson, NE, W&M

SBC:
FAU, FIU, TU, USA, CCU, UL, ULM, ASU, TXST, NMSU*
Non-football: UNCW, UTA, UALR

CUSA:
UTEP, UTSA, UNT, Rice, LTU, USM, UAB, MTSU, WKU

The G6 conferences clear with their TV partners a “play-in” round where one of the three winners becomes eligible for the CFP Access Bowl, which would be held in lieu of a conference championship game. The pairings rotate on a five year cycle which allows the possibility of a rematch to be minimized.
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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
(11-10-2017 01:26 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  I'd LOVE for the Blue Hens to jump up to FBS. They have been a power in FCS for years. They have a great fan base and great tradition in FB. The MAC would be a great spot for them.

After a few years at the FBS level along with JMU in the MAC i'd love to see an eastern G5 level conference form.

North: Del, UMass, Buffalo, Army, ODU, JMU

South: Marshall, App State, Coastal Carolina, Charolette, Georgia Southern, Georgia St
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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
(11-10-2017 02:02 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 01:56 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I don't think being in a regional conference with other northeastern and mid-Atlantic schools isn't quite the same in FBS as it is in FCS because of the transfer component that allows for some different practices between the levels. Delaware would probably need that FL and TX (or CA) pipeline like other schools crave at the G5 level that it doesn't need presently.

I wish we could get that regional thing going again, and not have to feel like every conference needing some pipeline to a big state. There's a lot to build from in the region that doesn't need to connect to the Gulf.

How about this?

Eastern Athletic Conference
North: Delaware, JMU, Marshall, ODU, UMass, YSU
South: App State, Charlotte, FAU, FIU, GA Southern, GA State
NOOOOOOOOO...

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(11-10-2017 07:46 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If we’re going to make a new FBS conference:

C-USA offers Delaware and James Madison football only membership starting with the 2024 football season.

In 2025, The CAA invites Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, App State, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern effective July 1, 2026. UMass joins for football only. Stony Brook eventually moves up and effectively swaps with Hofstra.

In an attempt to rebuild its eastern flank, the Sun Belt invites Florida Atlantic, Florida International, and non-football UNC-Wilmington. New Mexico State joins for football only.

CAA:
JMU, ODU, UD, MU, App, UNCC, GS, GSU, SB, UMass*
Non-football: CofC, Elon, Drexel, Towson, NE, W&M

SBC:
FAU, FIU, TU, USA, CCU, UL, ULM, ASU, TXST, NMSU*
Non-football: UNCW, UTA, UALR

CUSA:
UTEP, UTSA, UNT, Rice, LTU, USM, UAB, MTSU, WKU

The G6 conferences clear with their TV partners a “play-in” round where one of the three winners becomes eligible for the CFP Access Bowl, which would be held in lieu of a conference championship game. The pairings rotate on a five year cycle which allows the possibility of a rematch to be minimized.
If you think we would go back to the CAA...

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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
With UMass and Liberty already in the ranks of the FBS independents (and for that matter NMSU) if JMU, Delaware, and Stony Brook all wanted to come up together I think they could pull it off. Those six could form a scheduling agreement, ensuring that they all have opponents and home games in late October and through November.

I think it takes 7, maybe 8 to make an FBS conference so they'd just need to find one or two more interested parties. Youngstown St and Jacksonville St could both probably make the move. UTRGV might launch a start up.

Regarding conference affiliations, I think everyone can stay in their present homes. The CAA can't kick out JMU and Delaware for Olympic sports--I just don't see the 5 non-football voting them out for not sponsoring FCS football.

A few different things could happen the CAA football if they depart:
1. Soldier on as is with 9 schools or go up to 10+ with schools like Monmouth and Kennesaw St as affiliates.
2. America East takes over the sponsorship of the league
3. The league blows up. William & Mary is lured away to the Patriot with Richmond football with them (and maybe Towson and/or Richmond too). If William & Mary and potentially one or more of the other football playing full members Towson and Elon bolt I think America East takes over football and JMU and company use CAA as the sponsoring body for their FBS League if they ever make the minimum qualifications for league status
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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
(11-11-2017 11:02 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  With UMass and Liberty already in the ranks of the FBS independents (and for that matter NMSU) if JMU, Delaware, and Stony Brook all wanted to come up together I think they could pull it off. Those six could form a scheduling agreement, ensuring that they all have opponents and home games in late October and through November.

I think it takes 7, maybe 8 to make an FBS conference so they'd just need to find one or two more interested parties. Youngstown St and Jacksonville St could both probably make the move. UTRGV might launch a start up.

Regarding conference affiliations, I think everyone can stay in their present homes. The CAA can't kick out JMU and Delaware for Olympic sports--I just don't see the 5 non-football voting them out for not sponsoring FCS football.

A few different things could happen the CAA football if they depart:
1. Soldier on as is with 9 schools or go up to 10+ with schools like Monmouth and Kennesaw St as affiliates.
2. America East takes over the sponsorship of the league
3. The league blows up. William & Mary is lured away to the Patriot with Richmond football with them (and maybe Towson and/or Richmond too). If William & Mary and potentially one or more of the other football playing full members Towson and Elon bolt I think America East takes over football and JMU and company use CAA as the sponsoring body for their FBS League if they ever make the minimum qualifications for league status
Albany will do whatever Stony Brook does. UNH is not out of the equation. E Kentucky wants FBS and will go where ever to do it.
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NoDak: Albany would like to do whatever Stony Brook does but the Sea Wolves' program is quite a bit ahead of the Great Danes'.

With that said, if a group of 3 FCS schools jointly declare FBS independence, I think 2 more will craw out of the woodwork to make a conference of 8 even if that conference doesn't get playoff money until the next agreement.
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RE: Delaware starts $60 million upgrade-start of FBS move with JMU?
(11-11-2017 11:24 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  NoDak: Albany would like to do whatever Stony Brook does but the Sea Wolves' program is quite a bit ahead of the Great Danes'.

With that said, if a group of 3 FCS schools jointly declare FBS independence, I think 2 more will craw out of the woodwork to make a conference of 8 even if that conference doesn't get playoff money until the next agreement.

So who could realistically jump up?

Delaware, UNH, JMU, Stony, Albany...who else? They could band up with Liberty and UMass but thats still just 7. Maybe convince Army to join up and you have 8.
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(11-11-2017 11:45 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  
(11-11-2017 11:24 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  NoDak: Albany would like to do whatever Stony Brook does but the Sea Wolves' program is quite a bit ahead of the Great Danes'.

With that said, if a group of 3 FCS schools jointly declare FBS independence, I think 2 more will craw out of the woodwork to make a conference of 8 even if that conference doesn't get playoff money until the next agreement.

So who could realistically jump up?

Delaware, UNH, JMU, Stony, Albany...who else? They could band up with Liberty and UMass but thats still just 7. Maybe convince Army to join up and you have 8.
Kennesaw St had as a goal FBS before they fielded a fb team.
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