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RE: AR-15 Gun Modifications
(11-09-2017 03:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-08-2017 10:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Just when you think there is no way possible for the liberal media to be any more stupid about guns than they already have been they show there is no limits to their absolute ignorance.

[Image: zombie-hunting-assault-rifle-with-chainsaw-bayonet.jpg]

Zombie X Chainsaw Bayonet, Coyote Brown - contact us to order.

You were saying?

can we just stop?

As should be obvious (since if it worked, it would be illegal given the magazine) that picture is the prototype he built for a show to grab attention... and people seem to have thought the 'zombie' thing was fun so he actually made it... I mean, for god's sake... it SAYS zombie on it.

Even if you look at the description, it should be obvious that it was mostly tongue in cheek... i.e. after listing how it is a conversation piece, he says (paraphrasing) under uses, 'drug enforcement' so you can watch the criminals while cutting down the pot bushes and 'drug growers' so you can trim your plants while watching for other criminals. he also talks about a hunter clearing a site line, but of course that would be stupid to make that much noise....

iow, this is a novelty item... but like the guy who buys cars like the bat mobile or the back to the future car or the cars from Jurassic park, there IS a market for such novelties.

Whether some of you like it or not, gun 'swag' is a real thing.... From pearl handled pistols to zombie apocalypse rifles.... no different from ultra low profile tires on a truck which of course, ruin the ride and make the truck almost useless to haul things... etc etc etc.

If you find anyone who wants one of these things to become a more effective killer then you can all tell 'the left' to shut up and agree that Trump (along with Obama and most others) were right and that mental illness needs treatment to help reduce gun violence, because that idiot is nuts.

I'd love it to stop. Stop trying to turn every debate about gun issues into one of you can't discuss it because you're not a weapons expert in all facets...so you're shouted down. I'd LOVE to stop that!
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RE: AR-15 Gun Modifications
(11-09-2017 03:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-08-2017 10:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Just when you think there is no way possible for the liberal media to be any more stupid about guns than they already have been they show there is no limits to their absolute ignorance.

[Image: zombie-hunting-assault-rifle-with-chainsaw-bayonet.jpg]

Zombie X Chainsaw Bayonet, Coyote Brown - contact us to order.

You were saying?

can we just stop?

As should be obvious (since if it worked, it would be illegal given the magazine) ...

That mag is not illegal in my state. Probably not yours either, unless you live in Cali or NY.

ETA: Also, that's not an AR-15, just in case anyone is interested. That is an AKM or some type of AK variant.
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RE: AR-15 Gun Modifications
(11-09-2017 03:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'd love it to stop. Stop trying to turn every debate about gun issues into one of you can't discuss it because you're not a weapons expert in all facets...so you're shouted down. I'd LOVE to stop that!

I'm quite certain you aren't speaking to me, but just in case you are...

you don't have to be an expert in all facets and nobody has suggested you do (that I've seen)...

but acting like someone making a totally ineffective (for the purpose of doing harm) novelty item is 'part of the gun problem' doesn't demonstrate that one is not an expert in 'all' facets, but implies that you don't know anything about the problem whatsoever.

All I did was read the link you cited. If you're going to present something as evidence, you might want to know what the link says....

But yes, if you want to engage in intelligent discourse on the subject, I think it behooves you to be open to being educated on the issue, especially if you admit that you don't know that much about it.




Here is a perfect example of how 'not knowing everything' keeps us from moving forward.

People like you think that banning 'semi-automatic weapons' is a good idea.... not knowing that this means that 90% of hand-guns (which many of you say you're okay with) would suddenly be illegal.... and when the rational right points this out, the lunatic left argues that these hillbilly rednecks want to keep their zombie chainsaws when the reality is that the family living in a dangerous neighborhood simply wants to keep their 9mm and 3 shot hunting rifle... so nothing happens.

stalemate

polarization.

speaking generally and not necessarily to you... I don't know what you do or don't know... but Listen to people trying to educate you on the issue and perhaps we can GET somewhere.


People like the AR-15 in large part because they can buy one frame and have multiple 'tops' for a variety of uses. The frames are also adjustable so that people of a variety of sizes can share a gun comfortably. These are things I didn't know before being educated on the issues. Also, like most things we buy in America, the 'style' also matters and they are customizable, including a zombie apocalypse bayonette

NONE of that is about the ability to kill lots of people.... because almost nobody buys it for that purpose. Sure, SOME buy it (as the Constitution intended) because they can imagine a time when our government could become too tyranical (maybe it's just the local government with a crooked sheriff?) and you need protection... and maybe you think that's crazy... but go to places in remote Utah or Texas and it won't be so crazy.
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No, I was not talking to you. I've tried to have countless debates about this issue with others and it more oft than not turns into semantics over what is and what isn't an automatic weapon, etc. and ends up going nowhere. So I've pretty much stopped trying.
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What the hell is that guy preparing for? Gears of war 5?
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(11-09-2017 04:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, I was not talking to you. I've tried to have countless debates about this issue with others and it more oft than not turns into semantics over what is and what isn't an automatic weapon, etc. and ends up going nowhere. So I've pretty much stopped trying.

fair enough....

but the bold is ABSOLUTELY key in the debate, because
1) automatic weapons are already illegal
2) previous legislation introduced regarding semi-auto weapons impact hand-guns in a horrible way.

Much of an 'assault rifle' is about styling and function, not 'killing power'.


Seriously, what is the difference between a 9 shot glock and a 9 shot AR except a longer stock and barrel, which actually make them HARDER to conceal than a glock?
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Whatever is or is not an “assault weapon,” one thing is very clear. They aren’t used to kill people enough to have a material impact on the number of gun deaths. Less than rounding error. If you want to have meaningful impact, look elsewhere.

As far as mass shootings, are the people in Sutherland Srings any more or less dead than those killed in Chicago in the last week? Are we more concerned about one group that the other because one group is predominantly people of color and one group isn’t? Is it racist if we are?

If we are serious about solving a problem, we must lol at root causes. “Assault weapons” bans and registration do not do that.
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(11-09-2017 06:16 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Hey, one of my son's Nerf guns actually has a chainsaw bayonet. I better check his bank account and see if USA Today is paying him.

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Was he ever in the Air Force? Check that too. Who knows if he got a dishonorable discharge... at 10? 03-wink
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RE: AR-15 Gun Modifications
If a mass shooter is coming at me with an AR I certainly hope that they have that useless novelty item on the end of their rifle. The extra 20lbs is going to make it as inaccurate as a CNN report.
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(11-09-2017 04:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, I was not talking to you. I've tried to have countless debates about this issue with others and it more oft than not turns into semantics over what is and what isn't an automatic weapon, etc. and ends up going nowhere. So I've pretty much stopped trying.

Because when you call something that isn't an automatic weapon "automatic" you're lumping in hand guns with military grade machine guns. Thus poisoning the conversation, (intentionally or not)
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(11-09-2017 08:11 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 04:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, I was not talking to you. I've tried to have countless debates about this issue with others and it more oft than not turns into semantics over what is and what isn't an automatic weapon, etc. and ends up going nowhere. So I've pretty much stopped trying.

Because when you call something that isn't an automatic weapon "automatic" you're lumping in hand guns with military grade machine guns. Thus poisoning the conversation, (intentionally or not)

They like to use the term "automatic" because it sounds scary. But, yes, totally inaccurate.
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(11-09-2017 10:58 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 10:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's funny but I wouldn't put it passed some backwoods Jack weed to actually put a chainsaw attachment on his gun like that.[Image: quad-barrelled-shotgun-jpg.293718]

That "backwoods jackweed" is Dr Matt Carriker. He runs the Fair Oaks Ranch Vet Clinic in Fair Oaks Ranch, Texas and is the star of three highly successful Youtube video channels "Demolition Ranch", "Vet Ranch". and "Off the Ranch", and has enough money to buy and sell you.

Maybe next time you shan't judge a book by it's cover lest you end up looking foolish.
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(11-09-2017 09:52 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 10:58 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(11-09-2017 10:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That's funny but I wouldn't put it passed some backwoods Jack weed to actually put a chainsaw attachment on his gun like that.[Image: quad-barrelled-shotgun-jpg.293718]

That "backwoods jackweed" is Dr Matt Carriker. He runs the Fair Oaks Ranch Vet Clinic in Fair Oaks Ranch, Texas and is the star of three highly successful Youtube video channels "Demolition Ranch", "Vet Ranch". and "Off the Ranch", and has enough money to buy and sell you.

Maybe next time you shan't judge a book by it's cover lest you end up looking foolish.
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Lol... They guy has a degree in Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences and Fit walked right into that one.
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