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(11-16-2017 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(11-16-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Finally, these teams 100% control their own destiny:

Alabama
Clemson
Miami
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Auburn

I think Ohio State and Georgia likely do as well. Ohio State will have beaten Michigan and Wisconsin, and will benefit from the two losses handed out among Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC CCG, Auburn and Alabama will have picked up an additional loss each, clearing room for Georgia into the top four.

I agree that if Ohio State and Georgia win out, they are likely to make the playoffs, but it's not certain. And "controlling your destiny" has no room for iffiness. If it's not 100%, then you don't control your destiny, so that's why i left them out.

If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
(11-16-2017 09:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:07 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Finally, these teams 100% control their own destiny:

Alabama
Clemson
Miami
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Auburn

I think Ohio State and Georgia likely do as well. Ohio State will have beaten Michigan and Wisconsin, and will benefit from the two losses handed out among Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC CCG, Auburn and Alabama will have picked up an additional loss each, clearing room for Georgia into the top four.

I agree that if Ohio State and Georgia win out, they are likely to make the playoffs, but it's not certain. And "controlling your destiny" has no room for iffiness. If it's not 100%, then you don't control your destiny, so that's why i left them out.

If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.

For Georgia: Miami, Wisconsin, Oklahoma win out. Alabama crushes Auburn, loses to Georgia in quadruple-OT in the SEC title game on a bad call. The committee puts Alabama in not Georgia. Very unlikely, but IMO possible.

For Notre Dame: I concede, they still have a sliver of a path.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
(11-16-2017 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:07 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Finally, these teams 100% control their own destiny:

Alabama
Clemson
Miami
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Auburn

I think Ohio State and Georgia likely do as well. Ohio State will have beaten Michigan and Wisconsin, and will benefit from the two losses handed out among Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC CCG, Auburn and Alabama will have picked up an additional loss each, clearing room for Georgia into the top four.

I agree that if Ohio State and Georgia win out, they are likely to make the playoffs, but it's not certain. And "controlling your destiny" has no room for iffiness. If it's not 100%, then you don't control your destiny, so that's why i left them out.

If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.

For Georgia: Miami, Wisconsin, Oklahoma win out. Alabama crushes Auburn, loses to Georgia in quadruple-OT in the SEC title game on a bad call. The committee puts Alabama in not Georgia. Very unlikely, but IMO possible.

For Notre Dame: I concede, they still have a sliver of a path.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing for Auburn then? Auburn beats Alabama in quatruple OT on a bad call(at home no less). Then goes on to beat Georgia. The committee puts Alabama in over Auburn.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
(11-16-2017 09:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:07 AM)orangefan Wrote:  I think Ohio State and Georgia likely do as well. Ohio State will have beaten Michigan and Wisconsin, and will benefit from the two losses handed out among Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. If Georgia wins the SEC CCG, Auburn and Alabama will have picked up an additional loss each, clearing room for Georgia into the top four.

I agree that if Ohio State and Georgia win out, they are likely to make the playoffs, but it's not certain. And "controlling your destiny" has no room for iffiness. If it's not 100%, then you don't control your destiny, so that's why i left them out.

If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.

For Georgia: Miami, Wisconsin, Oklahoma win out. Alabama crushes Auburn, loses to Georgia in quadruple-OT in the SEC title game on a bad call. The committee puts Alabama in not Georgia. Very unlikely, but IMO possible.

For Notre Dame: I concede, they still have a sliver of a path.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing for Auburn then? Auburn beats Alabama in quatruple OT on a bad call(at home no less). Then goes on to beat Georgia. The committee puts Alabama in over Auburn.

I don't think so. Even with two losses, if Auburn has two wins over Georgia and a win over Bama and the SEC title, that will trump Alabama.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
(11-16-2017 10:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I agree that if Ohio State and Georgia win out, they are likely to make the playoffs, but it's not certain. And "controlling your destiny" has no room for iffiness. If it's not 100%, then you don't control your destiny, so that's why i left them out.

If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.

For Georgia: Miami, Wisconsin, Oklahoma win out. Alabama crushes Auburn, loses to Georgia in quadruple-OT in the SEC title game on a bad call. The committee puts Alabama in not Georgia. Very unlikely, but IMO possible.

For Notre Dame: I concede, they still have a sliver of a path.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing for Auburn then? Auburn beats Alabama in quatruple OT on a bad call(at home no less). Then goes on to beat Georgia. The committee puts Alabama in over Auburn.

I don't think so. Even with two losses, if Auburn has two wins over Georgia and a win over Bama and the SEC title, that will trump Alabama.

2 wins over what could then be a mediocre Georgia team viewed at least- and then a controversial home game win vs Alabama. You have to admit there would be a chance that Alabama goes.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
1 thing that's interesting....

Lets say in 2 weeks Alabama loses to Auburn on another flukey Kick 6 type of play.....

It's not going to take much at all to keep Alabama in the playoff....

teams in playoff-
Clemson/Miami winner for sure
Auburn/Georgia winner for sure
Oklahoma if they win for sure

I think it would be between Alabama and Wisconsin/Ohio St. You think Wisconsin gets in at 13-0, but I think that would be the ONLY scenario where I would say Big Ten team goes over Alabama in that situation.
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RE: Latest CFP Poll
(11-16-2017 10:10 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 10:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 09:21 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If Georgia wins out, show me ANY scenario where they are out. Georgia is 100% in if they win out.

For Georgia: Miami, Wisconsin, Oklahoma win out. Alabama crushes Auburn, loses to Georgia in quadruple-OT in the SEC title game on a bad call. The committee puts Alabama in not Georgia. Very unlikely, but IMO possible.

For Notre Dame: I concede, they still have a sliver of a path.

Couldn't you say the exact same thing for Auburn then? Auburn beats Alabama in quatruple OT on a bad call(at home no less). Then goes on to beat Georgia. The committee puts Alabama in over Auburn.

I don't think so. Even with two losses, if Auburn has two wins over Georgia and a win over Bama and the SEC title, that will trump Alabama.

2 wins over what could then be a mediocre Georgia team viewed at least- and then a controversial home game win vs Alabama. You have to admit there would be a chance that Alabama goes.

I don't think UGA would be regarded as anything near 'mediocre' with just two losses to AU, but yes, Bama is Bama so ... yes.
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