(11-04-2017 05:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-04-2017 05:07 AM)panite Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 09:37 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Navy letting us down... Y'all bess come correck agains ND.

If Navy can't beat Temple with the start they had this year then they are going to get whacked by ND down the road. ND is ranked #3 by the CFP Committee.

Don't totally discount Navy vs ND. Some days, some teams just can't get a handle on the triple option.

One factor correlated with that is familiarity. Play Army earlier in the year, like Temple did, and you are likely ready for Navy. But Notre Dame has been playing teams that look like themselves all year - Power 5 teams with NFL-type athletes playing pro-set offenses. They haven't played anyone that looks, athletically or schematically, like Navy's offense.

ND 45-17

(11-04-2017 07:24 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-04-2017 05:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-04-2017 05:07 AM)panite Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 09:37 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Navy letting us down... Y'all bess come correck agains ND.

If Navy can't beat Temple with the start they had this year then they are going to get whacked by ND down the road. ND is ranked #3 by the CFP Committee.

Don't totally discount Navy vs ND. Some days, some teams just can't get a handle on the triple option.

One factor correlated with that is familiarity. Play Army earlier in the year, like Temple did, and you are likely ready for Navy. But Notre Dame has been playing teams that look like themselves all year - Power 5 teams with NFL-type athletes playing pro-set offenses. They haven't played anyone that looks, athletically or schematically, like Navy's offense.

ND 45-17

Agree 100%, definitely 45-17, Charlie Babbit...

(11-04-2017 05:07 AM)panite Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 09:37 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Navy letting us down... Y'all bess come correck agains ND.

If Navy can't beat Temple with the start they had this year then they are going to get whacked by ND down the road. ND is ranked #3 by the CFP Committee.

So you arrived at your first sentence because of your second sentence? They also had Ohio St. Ranked #6....

(11-02-2017 10:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 10:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Great game Temple.
I'm out. Processing.

Navy fans have the classiest melts in sports. I love you guys

I'm back.
My wife and daughters still love me. I haven't called Mom to check with her and I don't want to assume.

Again, Great game Temple. That looked like the Temple team that won the AAC crown last year. Not just Nutile - y'all looked good and beat us in all three phases of the game.

That said it was the poor poor play from us that has Navy soul searching right now. After both Memphis and UCF games I was disappointed in the giveaways and penalties but we still had the ball late with a chance to go ahead in both of those. Resiliency and never-quit (against garbage time prevent) got us within one score here but it was far from the same feeling.

I predicted 9-3(6-2) and that overall record is still in play.

Bring on SMU! If we get back to Navy football at home we should win that.
As far as Notre Dame, our win last year came after getting blown out for a half by USF. It's a classic trap game setup for the domers.

Of course if we look like the last three weeks Saturday, this could end up our second losing season in fifteen years...

(11-06-2017 09:05 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 10:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 10:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Great game Temple.
I'm out. Processing.

Navy fans have the classiest melts in sports. I love you guys

I'm back.
My wife and daughters still love me. I haven't called Mom to check with her and I don't want to assume.

Again, Great game Temple. That looked like the Temple team that won the AAC crown last year. Not just Nutile - y'all looked good and beat us in all three phases of the game.

That said it was the poor poor play from us that has Navy soul searching right now. After both Memphis and UCF games I was disappointed in the giveaways and penalties but we still had the ball late with a chance to go ahead in both of those. Resiliency and never-quit (against garbage time prevent) got us within one score here but it was far from the same feeling.

I predicted 9-3(6-2) and that overall record is still in play.

Bring on SMU! If we get back to Navy football at home we should win that.
As far as Notre Dame, our win last year came after getting blown out for a half by USF. It's a classic trap game setup for the domers.

Of course if we look like the last three weeks Saturday, this could end up our second losing season in fifteen years...

Glad to see you back.

Navy is my second favorite team. I think you will beat SMU, as well, if you play well, and/or SMU doesn't play like they did against UCF, but more like their 3 previous games.

SMU is 5-1 at home and 1-2 on the road.

Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

(11-06-2017 09:54 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

Yeah, good question
IF we are 5-6 when bowl bids go out on December 3rd, AND the American hasn't filled all it's slots - which we won't - then I would expect the conference to be holding one of our lower end bowl partners to have us contingent on the Army game with a backup school - like a 5-7 on the APR list.
Which sucks for everyone. That will probably be a December 16th game, so would be less than a week to sell tickets and make travel plans for a weekend before schools are out and adults can expect not to be at work.
We'd sell our allotment as donations for mids/servicemembers so the bowl might still want us above and beyond the existing the in, but it would be poorly attended etc etc

(11-06-2017 09:05 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 10:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-02-2017 10:30 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Great game Temple.
I'm out. Processing.

Navy fans have the classiest melts in sports. I love you guys

I'm back.
My wife and daughters still love me. I haven't called Mom to check with her and I don't want to assume.

Again, Great game Temple. That looked like the Temple team that won the AAC crown last year. Not just Nutile - y'all looked good and beat us in all three phases of the game.

That said it was the poor poor play from us that has Navy soul searching right now. After both Memphis and UCF games I was disappointed in the giveaways and penalties but we still had the ball late with a chance to go ahead in both of those. Resiliency and never-quit (against garbage time prevent) got us within one score here but it was far from the same feeling.

I predicted 9-3(6-2) and that overall record is still in play.

Bring on SMU! If we get back to Navy football at home we should win that.
As far as Notre Dame, our win last year came after getting blown out for a half by USF. It's a classic trap game setup for the domers.

Of course if we look like the last three weeks Saturday, this could end up our second losing season in fifteen years...

Why are Temple fans happy this week? Cause we beat a really good team. Y’all be fine.

(11-06-2017 10:14 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 09:54 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

Yeah, good question
IF we are 5-6 when bowl bids go out on December 3rd, AND the American hasn't filled all it's slots - which we won't - then I would expect the conference to be holding one of our lower end bowl partners to have us contingent on the Army game with a backup school - like a 5-7 on the APR list.
Which sucks for everyone. That will probably be a December 16th game, so would be less than a week to sell tickets and make travel plans for a weekend before schools are out and adults can expect not to be at work.
We'd sell our allotment as donations for mids/servicemembers so the bowl might still want us above and beyond the existing the in, but it would be poorly attended etc etc

Not if we hold the Military Bowl, which I'd expect they'd do.

(11-07-2017 11:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 10:14 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 09:54 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

Yeah, good question
IF we are 5-6 when bowl bids go out on December 3rd, AND the American hasn't filled all it's slots - which we won't - then I would expect the conference to be holding one of our lower end bowl partners to have us contingent on the Army game with a backup school - like a 5-7 on the APR list.
Which sucks for everyone. That will probably be a December 16th game, so would be less than a week to sell tickets and make travel plans for a weekend before schools are out and adults can expect not to be at work.
We'd sell our allotment as donations for mids/servicemembers so the bowl might still want us above and beyond the existing the in, but it would be poorly attended etc etc

Not if we hold the Military Bowl, which I'd expect they'd do.

I wouldn't expect the conference to be holding the Military Bowl, one of our two tie-in bowls vs another P6 this year, for a 5-6 Navy team which will POSSIBLY win...or will possibly lose and give up that payday to another conference.
Navy to Military Bowl NOT a given, even if we win two of our next three.

Since this thread is still going I felt the need to do a game summary in gif form.

(11-07-2017 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 11:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 10:14 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 09:54 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

Yeah, good question
IF we are 5-6 when bowl bids go out on December 3rd, AND the American hasn't filled all it's slots - which we won't - then I would expect the conference to be holding one of our lower end bowl partners to have us contingent on the Army game with a backup school - like a 5-7 on the APR list.
Which sucks for everyone. That will probably be a December 16th game, so would be less than a week to sell tickets and make travel plans for a weekend before schools are out and adults can expect not to be at work.
We'd sell our allotment as donations for mids/servicemembers so the bowl might still want us above and beyond the existing the in, but it would be poorly attended etc etc

Not if we hold the Military Bowl, which I'd expect they'd do.

I wouldn't expect the conference to be holding the Military Bowl, one of our two tie-in bowls vs another P6 this year, for a 5-6 Navy team which will POSSIBLY win...or will possibly lose and give up that payday to another conference.
Navy to Military Bowl NOT a given, even if we win two of our next three.

I would. Last year, Temple got the MB over Navy, but that's because Temple was the conference champ so it's natural that we wanted to give them the most favorable bowl situation.

But this year, our champ is almost certainly going to the NY6, so there won't be the same moral imperative to give whoever else is going to bowls the same consideration.

All the bowls in our roster are pretty much the same, so the decisions will be made based on geography and the like, not who gets to play a P5 opponent. So I expect Navy in the MB if you guys make a bowl.

Just MO ...

(11-08-2017 06:32 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 11:32 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 11:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 10:14 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 09:54 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Quick question about Navy. Big what if...but if somehow they lose to SMU, ND and UH, and need the Army game on 12/9 to determine if they are bowl eligible, how does that work?

Does a Bowl have to sign up somebody as a contingency and then wait for the outcome of that game? I don’t think that has happened before not knowing the Bowl matchup at that late date.

Yeah, good question
IF we are 5-6 when bowl bids go out on December 3rd, AND the American hasn't filled all it's slots - which we won't - then I would expect the conference to be holding one of our lower end bowl partners to have us contingent on the Army game with a backup school - like a 5-7 on the APR list.
Which sucks for everyone. That will probably be a December 16th game, so would be less than a week to sell tickets and make travel plans for a weekend before schools are out and adults can expect not to be at work.
We'd sell our allotment as donations for mids/servicemembers so the bowl might still want us above and beyond the existing the in, but it would be poorly attended etc etc

Not if we hold the Military Bowl, which I'd expect they'd do.

I wouldn't expect the conference to be holding the Military Bowl, one of our two tie-in bowls vs another P6 this year, for a 5-6 Navy team which will POSSIBLY win...or will possibly lose and give up that payday to another conference.
Navy to Military Bowl NOT a given, even if we win two of our next three.

I would. Last year, Temple got the MB over Navy, but that's because Temple was the conference champ so it's natural that we wanted to give them the most favorable bowl situation.

But this year, our champ is almost certainly going to the NY6, so there won't be the same moral imperative to give whoever else is going to bowls the same consideration.

All the bowls in our roster are pretty much the same, so the decisions will be made based on geography and the like, not who gets to play a P5 opponent. So I expect Navy in the MB if you guys make a bowl.

Just MO ...

Even though the Military Bowl is a home game for Navy I would think they would want a warm weather bowl in Florida or Hawaii over the cold weather in Maryland for their bowl reward. The reward would be to get away to a different environment. First however Navy must get bowl eligible and that is not a given at this point even though they are 5&3. Navy has a tough schedule to finish out the season.

SMU 6&3
ND - 8&1
Houston 6&3
Army 7&2