The B12 thing has all sorts of financial benefits to Fred and FedEx.

Just out of pocket giving some coach $30mm of your own money has no real benefit, unless Norvell is going to come over and clean Fred's house and cars or cut some free commercials for Kinkos.

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about. With sponsorships, promotions, advertising and being the major sponsor of the B12 title game the expenses for FedEx could easily have been at least $500mm. You have no idea what you're talking about. And to think the B12 is above doing a shakedown is totally absurd. Yes they acted totally above board and with complete honesty during their "expansion" quest. Give me a break.

And from now on, if you can't try to respond to anything I write with some intelligence, common sense and civility, then just don't read anything I post because you've certainly taught me I need to ignore anything you might post.

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about. With sponsorships, promotions, advertising and being the major sponsor of the B12 title game the expenses for FedEx could easily have been at least $500mm. You have no idea what you're talking about. And to think the B12 is above doing a shakedown is totally absurd.

And from now on, if you can't try to respond to anything I write with some intelligence, common sense and civility, then just don't read anything I post because you've certainly taught me I need to ignore anything you might post.

Oh, now that it's clear you misconstrued the $500M the U of M said it would devote to infrastructure improvements with what FedEx was offering, we get you saying with absolutely no evidence to back it up that "promos and sponsorships . . ." could have easily been $500M. Laughable.

And when your crazy claims are called out, we get the whiny 'civility' defense.

Here's a clue. Don't post stupid stuff, and people who know more than you won't call you out on it.

Or, tell us more how the Big 12 "money whores came to" Fred Freaking Smith's office and did a shakedown. Again, laughable. Believe in the tooth fairy too?

(11-07-2017 04:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:44 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:40 PM)ddramone Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just gotta find people to pony up a 6-year, $32mm contract and we might get his attention.

There is some serious risk here. I love what CMN has done here, but let's not forget that when he took the job, the cupboard was not entirely empty either. Moreover, 2 years of D-1 coaching results (spectacular, yes, long measurement period, no) with a stud QB in both years is a 'full sample'. Remember what happened with Opie?

I wish we had one more year worth of results - without Ferguson - to really gauge how good CMN is. I can pretty much assure you that Sexton is working this angle big time as in 'strike while the iron is hot'.

I predict 7-8 wins if CMN is here next year. Houston and SMU will be very good next year.

If we find a QB to replace Riley, we'll be back in the same position as this season.

We have a really good QB commit in Texas right now. He can/does sling it. Of course he will be just a freshman next year. I so hope MN returns next year but the draw to go somewhere that actually has a chance to make the CFB playoffs will be too much of a draw for any coach.

I really hope we can figure out how to keep Norvil but I also have confidence that the Athletic Department can find another good young hungry coach . . . who could this be? I have no clue but they have shown the ability to do this with their last 2 football hires.

(11-07-2017 04:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:44 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:40 PM)ddramone Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just gotta find people to pony up a 6-year, $32mm contract and we might get his attention.

There is some serious risk here. I love what CMN has done here, but let's not forget that when he took the job, the cupboard was not entirely empty either. Moreover, 2 years of D-1 coaching results (spectacular, yes, long measurement period, no) with a stud QB in both years is a 'full sample'. Remember what happened with Opie?

I wish we had one more year worth of results - without Ferguson - to really gauge how good CMN is. I can pretty much assure you that Sexton is working this angle big time as in 'strike while the iron is hot'.

I predict 7-8 wins if CMN is here next year. Houston and SMU will be very good next year.

If we find a QB to replace Riley, we'll be back in the same position as this season.

QB ain't all we lose. WRs Miller n Mayhue are big losses too.

The difference now is that the program (not just the coach) seem to be going in the right direction. Even without Norvell (who has done well), we are no longer a team of last resort, we're now a program where young coaches can take the next step.

I hope we keep Norvell, but if we don't, I wish him the best and we can reload with the knowledge that the Memphis program now has a brief, but real track record of success and that should mean we can fill provided we make good (not even great) hires.

(11-09-2017 03:28 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:44 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:40 PM)ddramone Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:38 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just gotta find people to pony up a 6-year, $32mm contract and we might get his attention.

There is some serious risk here. I love what CMN has done here, but let's not forget that when he took the job, the cupboard was not entirely empty either. Moreover, 2 years of D-1 coaching results (spectacular, yes, long measurement period, no) with a stud QB in both years is a 'full sample'. Remember what happened with Opie?

I wish we had one more year worth of results - without Ferguson - to really gauge how good CMN is. I can pretty much assure you that Sexton is working this angle big time as in 'strike while the iron is hot'.

I predict 7-8 wins if CMN is here next year. Houston and SMU will be very good next year.

If we find a QB to replace Riley, we'll be back in the same position as this season.

QB ain't all we lose. WRs Miller n Mayhue are big losses too.

You can watch our games and tell we have talent and depth at the WR position. Of course, losing a player like Miller hurts but I feel good about the WR position in coming years.

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about. With sponsorships, promotions, advertising and being the major sponsor of the B12 title game the expenses for FedEx could easily have been at least $500mm. You have no idea what you're talking about. And to think the B12 is above doing a shakedown is totally absurd. Yes they acted totally above board and with complete honesty during their "expansion" quest. Give me a break.

And from now on, if you can't try to respond to anything I write with some intelligence, common sense and civility, then just don't read anything I post because you've certainly taught me I need to ignore anything you might post.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't know anything. It's not worth it.

(11-09-2017 09:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't know anything. It's not worth it.

From the Canadian who doesn't know Texas A&M is in the SEC West. Proven in multiple threads. Rich.

(11-09-2017 09:07 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't know anything. It's not worth it.

From the Canadian who doesn't know Texas A&M is in the SEC West. Proven in multiple threads. Rich.

What he said has been verified by people I know and trust, so you don't know anything. C'est la vie.

(11-09-2017 09:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:07 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't know anything. It's not worth it.

From the Canadian who doesn't know Texas A&M is in the SEC West. Proven in multiple threads. Rich.

What he said has been verified by people I know and trust, so you don't know anything.

All the way up in Montreal this guy actually thinks he can make people believe he knows anything about what goes at 3720 Alumni Avenue. I was in the Admin building two days ago. Have you ever even been to Memphis?

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

I don't have any inside information about what happened re: the B12. I can also guarantee you don't know either. Sorry, but stating your opinion does not make anything 100% fact.

(11-09-2017 09:37 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 01:05 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:51 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Hasn't that rock been bled dry?

Mr. Smith and FedEx offered around $500MM to the Big 12 and those money whores came to him and wanted double and he kicked them out of his office, that's what happened to the Big 12.

Ridiculous. 100% not true. Why some pretend to be insiders peddling Big12 revisionist history BS is beyond me. Other guy who makes such claims now posts only in Smack, which you should take as a lesson.

The U of M vowed to make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure in the next 5 years, much of which was already happening or scheduled to happen anyway, i.e. the hoops and football IPFs, land bridge/rec center rebuild, Centennial and Gather dorms . . . Public companies like FedEx can't offer sports conferences sums like $500M. FedEx offered to be the title sponsor of the Big 12 ccg, which wasn't that big a deal to the Big 12 since the conference had other corporations willing to be the ccg sponsor.

Once Fox and ESPN declined to launch a Big 12 network, there was little reason for the Big 12 to expand. The idea that the freaking B12 came to Fred Smith's office to demand more cash is insane. FedEx has been one of the largest sports TV advertisers for decades; the B12 conference isn't going to do a shakedown of FedEx.

I don't have any inside information about what happened re: the B12. I can also guarantee you don't know either. Sorry, but stating your opinion does not make anything 100% fact.

You don't know what inside information I do or don't have. Look back at the B12 Twitter thread, and tell me how many times I was wrong. Unlike a lot of supposed insiders.

In my post that you replied to, tell me specifically what is incorrect?

(11-09-2017 09:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:07 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 04:17 PM)MemphisMike Wrote:  You can claim it's not true but I know otherwise. you're claims are insane and something you have no proof of. This is exactly why this board has become such a sad place because people like you make comments you know nothing about.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't know anything. It's not worth it.

From the Canadian who doesn't know Texas A&M is in the SEC West. Proven in multiple threads. Rich.

What he said has been verified by people I know and trust, so you don't know anything.

All the way up in Montreal this guy actually thinks he can make people believe he knows anything about what goes at 3720 Alumni Avenue. I was in the Admin building two days ago. Have you ever even been to Memphis?

I couldn't give a crap what you believe or don't believe, but what the poster said has been verified and many others that post here know it to be true.

So I'm glad that you are barely smart enough to find your way to campus but not smart enough to understand that you don't have to actually be inside a building to have information. That is consistent with everything else you post.