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RE: 2017 MLB Awards finalists revealed
(11-14-2017 06:35 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Congrats to NL MOY Torey Lovullo!

Not that it matters, but I thought Bud Black would receive more votes - certainly more than Roberts who pretty much doomed his candidacy with that late August to late September shitshow.
11-15-2017 05:31 PM
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RE: 2017 MLB Awards finalists revealed
Kluber gets 28/30 1st place votes and wins 204-126 over Sale.
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RE: 2017 MLB Awards finalists revealed
Scherzer 27-3 over Kershaw..
11-15-2017 06:51 PM
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RE: 2017 MLB Awards finalists revealed
that Tom Tango Tracker was really good this year
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Kluber 95.3
Sale 86.0
Severino 69.7

NL-
Scherzer 87.1
Kershaw 80.7
Strasburg 74.1
11-16-2017 09:33 AM
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(11-16-2017 09:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  that Tom Tango Tracker was really good this year
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Kluber 95.3
Sale 86.0
Severino 69.7

NL-
Scherzer 87.1
Kershaw 80.7
Strasburg 74.1

If you look at it over time, the TT Tracker has been remarkably accurate. If anything, it underestimated Scherzer's domination of the vote this year, but that's a nit. I was happy to see Jansen finish 5th (which TT wasn't close on because of his strong emphasis on IP).
11-16-2017 12:38 PM
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That pretty much cements Scherzer as a hall of famer
11-16-2017 02:53 PM
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(11-16-2017 02:53 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  That pretty much cements Scherzer as a hall of famer

you would think so. saw this incredible factoid:
Max Scherzer has 2,149 strikeouts and a 1.119 WHIP in his career. Below is a list of pitchers who best him in both categories.

Pedro Martinez*
Juan Marichal*
Sandy Koufax*
Walter Johnson*
Eddie Plank*
Christy Mathewson*
Rube Waddell*

*Hall of Famer
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(11-16-2017 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 02:53 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  That pretty much cements Scherzer as a hall of famer

you would think so. saw this incredible factoid:
Max Scherzer has 2,149 strikeouts and a 1.119 WHIP in his career. Below is a list of pitchers who best him in both categories.

Pedro Martinez*
Juan Marichal*
Sandy Koufax*
Walter Johnson*
Eddie Plank*
Christy Mathewson*
Rube Waddell*

*Hall of Famer

Nice group. To be fair, I think Scherzer was probably already in. If he was to fall apart next season and not be able to make it back, MAYBE there'd be an argument against him. There aren't many 2 time CY winners not in the HOF (and at least one of them will probably be voted in eventually), but there is only one with more than 2 who isn't in.
11-16-2017 04:12 PM
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(11-16-2017 04:12 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 02:53 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  That pretty much cements Scherzer as a hall of famer

you would think so. saw this incredible factoid:
Max Scherzer has 2,149 strikeouts and a 1.119 WHIP in his career. Below is a list of pitchers who best him in both categories.

Pedro Martinez*
Juan Marichal*
Sandy Koufax*
Walter Johnson*
Eddie Plank*
Christy Mathewson*
Rube Waddell*

*Hall of Famer

Nice group. To be fair, I think Scherzer was probably already in. If he was to fall apart next season and not be able to make it back, MAYBE there'd be an argument against him. There aren't many 2 time CY winners not in the HOF (and at least one of them will probably be voted in eventually), but there is only one with more than 2 who isn't in.

Yeah if he fell apart and was never the same, he might not get elected. But at this point all he really needs to do is decline gracefully and he'll be fine.
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RE: 2017 MLB Awards finalists revealed
Pitcher # of Awards
Roger Clemens 7
Randy Johnson 5
Steve Carlton 4
Greg Maddux 4
Tom Seaver 3
Sandy Koufax 3
Pedro Martínez 3

Max Scherzer 3
Jim Palmer 3
Clayton Kershaw 3
Tom Glavine 2
Tim Lincecum 2
Roy Halladay 2
Johan Santana 2
Gaylord Perry 2
Denny McLain 2
Corey Kluber 2
Bret Saberhagen 2
Bob Gibson 2




Bolded in HOF
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