Double post for some reason

Csn been acting odd ALL day!?!

(11-06-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

It means that there is hope for you after all.

I assure you I am not as liberal as people on this forum make me out to be.

Several of us know this. You admitted to being a troll on the other board.

(11-06-2017 01:02 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  [quote='Fitbud' pid='14751852' dateline='1509989811']
What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

You shouldn’t be allowed to use roofies to get married? Just a thought.


To the OP, I figure cause liberal “men” would tend to be surrounded by liberal women, if any womyn at all.

Not exactly rocket surgery.

(11-06-2017 11:04 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:First, the Left attacks the very idea of what it means to be a man. Here’s a shorthand version of the Left’s view of masculinity (to borrow from a column my wife wrote): Men and women are the same, except when women are better. So when a young boys does what young boys do — play rough, show aggression, gravitate towards contact sports and more violent games and movies — they are greeted with howls of “No.” No talking. No pushing. No running. No fighting. No toy guns. No drawings of tanks and guns. No. No. No. Again and again, young boys are shoved into a quiet, more relational, submissive box. As the father of an active young teen boy, what I’ve seen from other parents — the unbelievable stifling — seems cruel.

Next, the liberal male often spends his relational life walking on eggshells, dating women and living in cultures that are constantly calling out any kind of behavior subjectively perceived as “male” or oppressive. So if a man gets angry at a woman, he’s just “mansplaining.” A man who asks for fidelity is “slut-shaming.” Assertions of will are subject to “privilege checks.” To enter the world of academia, for example, is to enter a world of social rules and customs that are impossibly complex because propriety is always dictated by the subjective feelings of the most traditionally powerless person in the room. The language of equality is a mere mask for a new hierarchy that explicitly seeks to place the male (especially the white male) at the bottom.

Finally, as a result of upbringing and relationships, liberal men often lack a distinctively masculine purpose. Ask most conservative men to define their roles — whether they’re firefighters or accountants — and they’ll often respond with words like “protector” or “provider” — even when they’re married to capable, strong women with their own careers. They’re glad for their wife’s success, but they view that success as independent of their ultimate responsibilities. Many liberal men would actively scorn such labels. Indeed, at the end of the day, many men are left with nothing distinctively male about them, aside from their biology. And they often feel a hole in their heart. Indeed, a cottage industry exists to reconnect men with manly pursuits — often centered around experiencing real adventure for the first time in their lives.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/366648

Conservative women are also significantly happier than liberal women.

Because they lack what makes them men?

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

Are you James Carville?

(11-06-2017 01:03 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

It means that there is hope for you after all.

I assure you I am not as liberal as people on this forum make me out to be.

Several of us know this. You admitted to being a troll on the other board.

I prefer the term "devil's advocate".

(11-06-2017 02:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:03 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

It means that there is hope for you after all.

I assure you I am not as liberal as people on this forum make me out to be.

Several of us know this. You admitted to being a troll on the other board.

I prefer the term "devil's advocate".

Everybody knows you are just a troll. You should just embrace it.

(11-06-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 02:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:03 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:51 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  It means that there is hope for you after all.

I assure you I am not as liberal as people on this forum make me out to be.

Several of us know this. You admitted to being a troll on the other board.

I prefer the term "devil's advocate".

Everybody knows you are just a troll. You should just embrace it.

Perhaps you and I have different definitions of the word.

Can you be more specific?

(11-06-2017 02:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 02:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 02:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:03 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I assure you I am not as liberal as people on this forum make me out to be.

Several of us know this. You admitted to being a troll on the other board.

I prefer the term "devil's advocate".

Everybody knows you are just a troll. You should just embrace it.

Perhaps you and I have different definitions of the word.

Can you be more specific?

Sure.

You match two of the types of internet trolls listed in the article in just about every interaction you have on here.

https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-intern...ls-3485894

First off: What is a troll?

Quote:An Internet troll is a member of an online social community who deliberately tries to disrupt, attack, offend or generally cause trouble within the community by posting certain comments, photos, videos, GIFs or some other form of online content.

Now for the types you match:

Quote:The persistent debate troll

This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.

and

Quote:The forever offended troll

When controversial topics are discussed online, they're bound to offend someone. That's normal. But then there are the types of trolls who can take a piece of content – often times it's a joke, a parody or something sarcastic – and turn on the digital waterworks. They're experts at taking humorous pieces of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim. People really do get upset by some of the strangest things said and done online.

You could also fall into these additional catagories:

Quote:The one word only troll

There's always that one contributor to a Facebook status update, a forum thread, and Instagram photo, a Tumblr post or any other form of social posting who just says "lol" or "what" or "k" or "yes" or "no." They're certainly far from the worst type of troll you meet online, but when a serious or detailed topic is being discussed, their one-word replies are just a nuisance to all who are trying add value and follow the discussion.

How many replies have you made to topics that were simply "Wow!"?

Quote:The exaggeration troll

Exaggeration trolls can sometimes be a combination of know-it-alls, the offended and even debate trolls. They know how to take any topic or problem and completely blow it out of proportion. Some of them actually try to do it to be funny, and sometimes they succeed, while others do it just to be annoying. They rarely ever contribute any real value to a discussion and often bring up problems and issues that may arguably be unrelated to what's being discussed.

How many threads have you derailed over the years?



Like I said....everybody knows who and what you are so you aren't fooling anyone. You should just embrace it at this point.

I have not missed fitfail's persistant trolling. It was nice for a while there.

Quote:

Quote:An Internet troll is a member of an online social community who deliberately tries to disrupt, attack, offend or generally cause trouble within the community by posting certain comments, photos, videos, GIFs or some other form of online content.

I disagree that I am a troll in this definition. I am not here to disrupt, attack, or offend anyone.

Quote:The persistent debate troll

This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.

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This I will admit to . I do like a good argument and I do like to have the last word. I don't see anything wrong with that. The MODS have told me on several occasions that there is nothing wrong with that.


and

Quote:

Quote:The forever offended troll

When controversial topics are discussed online, they're bound to offend someone. That's normal. But then there are the types of trolls who can take a piece of content – often times it's a joke, a parody or something sarcastic – and turn on the digital waterworks. They're experts at taking humorous pieces of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim. People really do get upset by some of the strangest things said and done online.

This I totally disagree with. No one has a better sense of humor than I do. You on the other hand fit this bill more than I do.

In another thread you are all offended about how the media portrayed feeding fish.


You could also fall into these additional catagories:

Quote:

Quote:The one word only troll

There's always that one contributor to a Facebook status update, a forum thread, and Instagram photo, a Tumblr post or any other form of social posting who just says "lol" or "what" or "k" or "yes" or "no." They're certainly far from the worst type of troll you meet online, but when a serious or detailed topic is being discussed, their one-word replies are just a nuisance to all who are trying add value and follow the discussion.

I never do this.

How many replies have you made to topics that were simply "Wow!"?

Quote:

Quote:The exaggeration troll

Exaggeration trolls can sometimes be a combination of know-it-alls, the offended and even debate trolls. They know how to take any topic or problem and completely blow it out of proportion. Some of them actually try to do it to be funny, and sometimes they succeed, while others do it just to be annoying. They rarely ever contribute any real value to a discussion and often bring up problems and issues that may arguably be unrelated to what's being discussed.

I will admit to this in some way. I am in fact a know it all. It's a character flaw I know. I do however try and contribute to the discussion.



How many threads have you derailed over the years?

Quote:

Quote: Like I said....everybody knows who and what you are so you aren't fooling anyone. You should just embrace it at this point.

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I'm not going to embrace it because while I may sometimes do the things mentioned here, I'm not doing it in any way to disrupt, attack or upset anyone personally.

That said, those things mentioned could be attributed to anyone on this forum.

How many times have you taken the opportunity to attack teachers knowing that I am a teacher?

Don't act as if you have never done any of the things that are mentioned here.

(11-06-2017 02:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:The persistent debate troll

This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.

This I will admit to . I do like a good argument and I do like to have the last word. I don't see anything wrong with that. The MODS have told me on several occasions that there is nothing wrong with that.
[/quote]

Admission #1 of troll behavior

Quote:and

Quote:

Quote:The forever offended troll

When controversial topics are discussed online, they're bound to offend someone. That's normal. But then there are the types of trolls who can take a piece of content – often times it's a joke, a parody or something sarcastic – and turn on the digital waterworks. They're experts at taking humorous pieces of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim. People really do get upset by some of the strangest things said and done online.

This I totally disagree with. No one has a better sense of humor than I do. You on the other hand fit this bill more than I do.

In another thread you are all offended about how the media portrayed feeding fish.

Are you serious? 90% of your troll posts are you acting like you are offended by something someone posted.

And can you post a link to where I was offended in the other thread you mentioned?

Demanding accountability and truthfulness in the press =/= being offended.

Quote:and

Quote:

Quote:The forever offended troll

When controversial topics are discussed online, they're bound to offend someone. That's normal. But then there are the types of trolls who can take a piece of content – often times it's a joke, a parody or something sarcastic – and turn on the digital waterworks. They're experts at taking humorous pieces of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim. People really do get upset by some of the strangest things said and done online.

This I totally disagree with. No one has a better sense of humor than I do. You on the other hand fit this bill more than I do.

In another thread you are all offended about how the media portrayed feeding fish.


You could also fall into these additional catagories:

Quote:

Quote:The one word only troll

There's always that one contributor to a Facebook status update, a forum thread, and Instagram photo, a Tumblr post or any other form of social posting who just says "lol" or "what" or "k" or "yes" or "no." They're certainly far from the worst type of troll you meet online, but when a serious or detailed topic is being discussed, their one-word replies are just a nuisance to all who are trying add value and follow the discussion.

I never do this.

How many replies have you made to topics that were simply "Wow!"?

Really?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-797516-post-137...id13787235

Post 61

http://csnbbs.com/thread-790796-post-135...id13570603

Post 12

So either you do this or someone hacked your account. Which is it?

BTW...after all these years on this board you should know two things. #1 is how to properly reply to a quoted message so it doesn't screw up the thread and #2 Don't doubt me when I saw something because I can and will back it up.

Quote:

Quote:The exaggeration troll

Exaggeration trolls can sometimes be a combination of know-it-alls, the offended and even debate trolls. They know how to take any topic or problem and completely blow it out of proportion. Some of them actually try to do it to be funny, and sometimes they succeed, while others do it just to be annoying. They rarely ever contribute any real value to a discussion and often bring up problems and issues that may arguably be unrelated to what's being discussed.

I will admit to this in some way. I am in fact a know it all. It's a character flaw I know. I do however try and contribute to the discussion. [/quote]

Admission #2. We are making progress, although I dispute the notion that you try to contribute to discussions on a regular basis. If you were trying to contribute there wouldn't be any "Wow. Just wow." or "Zimmerman effect" only replies.

Quote:That said, those things mentioned could be attributed to anyone on this forum.

How many times have you taken the opportunity to attack teachers knowing that I am a teacher?

Since when is exposing the degeneracy of someone or the failures of our public education system an attack? It's a statement of fact. If you take that as an attack then that's on you, not me.

Quote:Don't act as if you have never done any of the things that are mentioned here.

Just about everybody has at one point in time. The difference is with you it's a constant.

(11-06-2017 12:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If only their concern was in their own bedroom perhaps the country would be a happier place.

Change the word "bedroom" to "bathroom", and the lefty talking points change dramatically...............just sayin'.

(11-06-2017 03:45 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If only their concern was in their own bedroom perhaps the country would be a happier place.

Change the word "bedroom" to "bathroom", and the lefty talking points change dramatically...............just sayin'.

+1 good sir.

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

Go make her a sammich

(11-06-2017 05:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

Go make her a sammich

She's conservatives so when I get home, I tell her fix me something to eat and she does it.

Because the ideology promotes a rebuke of tested and proven norms and societal constructs. Liberal men raised in these environments lack the ability to function within these norms. The result is a chaos and dysfunction.

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

You like being dominated.

(11-06-2017 06:07 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if I am a liberal man but I married a conservative woman?

You like being dominated.

Sometimes you are the dog. Sometimes you are the fire hydrant. In this case, you are always the hydrant.

This idea and further related reading really helped me define better who I was, and wanted to be:

Wolves are bad guys.
Most people are sheep.
Sheepdogs are society’s protectors.

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/05/14...-sheepdog/

I encourage everyone to read this and any follow-up reading as needed. I am serious when I say this article was a truly defining moment of my life. I am proud to humblebrag that since reading an article about wolves, sheep and sheepdogs (maybe around 2010? Not this article, this is simply the most succinct) I have twice been in a sheep/sheepdog/wolves situation.

It was late one night, very late, and I was asleep when I heard an impossibly loud bang. My first instinct was that someone had broken in our front door and I grabbed my "appropriate response" and quickly went downstairs, meaning whoever was inside had to go through me to get upstairs to the wife and kids.

Thankfully, it wasn't my house. I looked outside and saw a green car smashed into a tree at the end of my block, smoking from the radiator and the airbag explosion. (that is what made that ridiculously loud bang.) I put aside my appropriate response and raced to the car to see what I could do to help - there was no one else around, and no lights on at the neighbors that I could see. After 10 seconds or so I saw a guy walking up my street clearly hurt so I ran to him and told him to stop and lay down as I had called the the police. Once I said "police" to him I smelled the alcohol and he took a swing at me - and missed. More his inbalance than any lightning quick ninja skill on my part.

Next he swore up and down to me that he knows where I live and he'll come back and kill me. By this time two other neighbors showed up and I told them both to stay back as this guy was dangerous and drunk. I continued to follow him around at a distance of 10 yards or so while on a cell phone with the police borrowed from one of the neighbors. Police got there, arrested him, and I later learned he had warrants for assault and other DWI.

I had to testify against him in court and face his pissed off family in the hall with further whispered threats. The police crash scene investigated testified that in his opinion the driver was going in excess of 70 miles an hour when he hit the tree, and the arresting officer showed a .bac of 1.8. Drunk, mean, pissed off wolf going 70 miles an hour on a residential city street.

Any way, as is probably always the case, this guy went to jail and I never heard or saw him or any of the family again.

Listen, the point of this story is not to brag. I imagine many of you have been through worse. The point of the story is that went presented with danger I ran towards it, not away. Is that more stupid than holing up in my bedroom cowering under a bed? Probably. That's what a lot of my (liberal city) friends say they do when confronted in those type of situations (YMMV with your group of liberal city friends.)

But I learned that night that I am a sheepdog.