(11-08-2017 10:45 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  So far there is no evidence either this or the church shooting were politically motivated, yet these thread titles just keep on saying they are. Wonder why one particular party is more apt to believe fake news?

It has become necessary to accept more and more fake news in order to justify support for the president because, as has been celebrated in other threads, it has already been a year since this guy was elected and he has not managed to pass not one piece of significant legislation.

His presidency thus far as been one of words and not action division and not unity.

(11-08-2017 10:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 10:45 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  So far there is no evidence either this or the church shooting were politically motivated, yet these thread titles just keep on saying they are. Wonder why one particular party is more apt to believe fake news?

It has become necessary to accept more and more fake news in order to justify support for the president because, as has been celebrated in other threads, it has already been a year since this guy was elected and he has not managed to pass not one piece of significant legislation.

His presidency thus far as been one of words and not action division and not unity.

His positions seems to be "If only all the people who don't agree with me on my positions agreed with me, I would get more done". Ya, no sh*t.

(11-07-2017 04:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Rand Paul has a push mower?

It's a riding mower. Would imagine the property is too big for a push.

(11-08-2017 08:52 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:20 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:11 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  That's all fine and good but the developer of the community says Paul doesn't like the deed restrictions. And it doesn't sound like they have changed from when he bought his property.

Paul "was probably the hardest person to encourage to follow the (homeowner's association regulations) of anyone out here because he has a strong belief in property rights," said Skaggs, who is the former chairman of the Warren County Republican Party.

Skaggs noted the 13 pages of regulations are extensive. But even from the start of Paul's residence in Rivergreen, Skaggs said Paul has been difficult to work with.

"The major problem was getting the house plans approved," Skaggs said. "He wanted to actually own the property rights and build any kind of house he wanted. He didn't end up doing that, but it was a struggle."

What!!!!???? That's OUTRAGEOUS! This is an OUTRAGE!!!! How DARE you want to actually own your property rights...

I think Skaggs is a little mis-informed or a little sloppy with conveying the facts of property law, or else they've got some effed up property laws in KY.

Its an HOA... Not an HRA.

HOAs can basically deed resctrict about anything they want to, right?

deed restrict? Yes. OWN???? No. What he describes is more akin to a condo situation, not a subdivision.

Rand Paul’s Neighbors Rip Media ‘Landscaping Dispute’ Reports That ‘Victim Blame’ Paul



Rene Boucher is a lib who is a candidate for a mental health evaluation.

Quote:The Bowling Green, Ky. neighbor who allegedly sucker attack Sen. Rand Paul last weekend, causing six broken ribs, was aggressively anti-Trump and anti-GOP in his social media, calling for the impeachment of the president and urging Russia investigator Robert Mueller to “fry Trump’s gonads.”

Captured screen grabs of Rene Boucher’s Facebook page provided to Secrets and taken down since the event also show that the anesthesiologist was a fan of the #NeverTrump clan.



His lawyer said that politics played no part and it has been suggested that the two verbally tussled over lawn clippings, leaving the impression that the Republican Kentucky senator was a negligent landscaper.

But seven neighbors in the Rivergreen gated community told Secrets Wednesday that the Pauls are friendly homeowners who kept their property tidy.

“The Paul’s landscaping looks just like everyone’s place in Rivergreen. Wish I could get him to cut my lawn,” said neighbor Robert Warner. “As a friend, neighbor and senator, Rand has been first class in every way. What I find amazing is the fact that he cuts his own grass. Our neighborhood is fortunate that the Paul’s live here,” he added.

All seven neighbors expressed shock at the “scary” attack on Paul as he was doing yard work last Saturday and they dismissed reports that it was the result of poor landscaping. However, they are puzzled about why Boucher, 59, allegedly tackled Paul, 54, who was wearing ear plugs at the time. Boucher has been charged with assault.

“The stories of a ‘landscaping dispute’ or a dispute of any sort between Rand Paul and Rene Boucher are erroneous and unfounded. The reason for Mr. Boucher’s bizarre attack is known only to him. Statements to the contrary are irresponsible and unnecessary,” said neighbor Travis Creed.

He added, “Speculation regarding Boucher’s motive has led to an unfair characterization of the Pauls and their home. The Pauls are and always have been great neighbors and friends. They take pride in their property and maintain it accordingly. Rand has enjoyed working on and maintaining his lawn for as long as I have known him.”

Keep reading here...

shep smith also just said that federal charges will be filed, meaning that it WAS politically motivated.

Quote:Rand Paul hints that his alleged assault wasn't over landscaping

https://www.axios.com/rand-paul-hints-th...m=politics

<-- vindicated

Fort Bend Owl is fake news.

I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

(11-09-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

given the left's history, yes, charge means guilty in OUR eyes.

(11-09-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

The attacker absolutely deserves due process, that wasn't the point of my update.

The point was that everything I've said from the start has proven to have been right, and everything FBO has said (who was attempting to cover for alleged, alt-left terrorists for some reason.. weird) has been wrong.

(11-09-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

He should not be able to travel and if he owns any guns they should be confiscated.
Has this dude ever purchased a gun? Has his house been searched?

(11-07-2017 08:55 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 07:25 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Paul with 5 broken ribs and bruises to his lungs. Pretty significant injuries. I still think there is more to the story - maybe something as stupid as the one guy who attacked Paul was pissed at him for mowing his yard and not Paul's (or perhaps there was a dispute over where their respective lands began and ended).

Politics doesn't make sense in this case. They were neighbors and Paul was mowing his yard with headphones on. Why would the guy take a flying leap on someone on a riding mower, unless there was a long-standing feud between the two over something.

Looks like my theory over a landscaping dispute might be right after all. Kronke and the others here who love to immediately jump to conclusions on the alt-left should start paying attention to me more. I have a better track record than the sites they're visiting. This wasn't some nutcase traveling half the country to find some Republicans to kill, this was Paul's neighbor for 18 years and someone who used to work at the same hospital as him.

If you don't want to read the link, basically the New York Times story infers that the two were neighbors for 18 years, and while they did disagree on political issues, the bigger problem for the two was an ongoing dispute over neighborhood landscaping regulations. Several (Republican) neighbors agree that the fight wasn't political but both were headstrong and at the opposite end of the spectrum in their interpretation of HOA rules and regulations.

I'm not trying to downplay Mr. Boucher's attack because he needs to face charges for what he did. But this explanation makes a ton more sense than immediately claiming the attack was political in nature.

“They just couldn’t get along. I think it had very little to do with Democrat or Republican politics,” said Jim Skaggs, who developed the gated community and who lives nearby. “I think it was a neighbor-to-neighbor thing. They just both had strong opinions, and a little different ones about what property rights mean.”

Asked about long-leveled allegations that Mr. Paul had disregarded neighborhood regulations, Mr. Skaggs, who is also a former leader of the county Republican Party, said that the senator “certainly believes in stronger property rights than exist in America.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/po...-says.html

Occam's razor.

You give the failing NYT enough time and resources, and they'll spin what is obvious into something else completely -- as they're done here. I'm not interested in their fake news.

Boucher confirmed #Resistance member.

Given new developments, does FBO disavow alleged, alt-left terrorist Rene Boucher?

(11-07-2017 11:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hard to believe no one has claimed that the retired anesthesiologist is ANTIFA yet.

They would have been right. Do you disavow?

(11-09-2017 03:31 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Given new developments, does FBO disavow alleged, alt-left terrorist Rene Boucher?

Again with this nonsense?

C'mon man...give it a rest!

(11-09-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

maybe democrats would believe it if it happened in 1979 but he just now decided to tell it to the washington post.

(11-09-2017 03:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 03:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I guess "charged" means "guilty" now.

Why do you conservatives have such a hard time with due process?

maybe democrats would believe it if it happened in 1979 but he just now decided to tell it to the washington post.

Not a democrat, but I don't doubt at all that this could have been politically motivated. That being said, I'm not going to apologize for waiting for all the evidence to be presented before passing judgement here. Just as I always try to do regardless of party.

A few tweets don't make you a terrorist. Now this attack is certainly criminal in nature and I've said that a few times already.

Why doesn't Kronke attack the developer of the community? He's a former Republican chair of the county, and he was the one who said it was likely an argument over lawn clippings. I was just cut-and-pasting the story.