(11-04-2017 01:15 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(11-04-2017 12:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  WKU is putting up a nice showing today against a terrible SEC team, and might just win. I feel Southern Miss has a real chance to beat Tennessee today too. But, I can't wait for the day when the better teams in C-USA can regularly stomp a mud hole in bad SEC teams, and compete with some of their quality bowl teams.

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put them in CUSA this season and they contend.

actually, put them in C-USA without SEC teat money and Bama/LSU/Georgia home and home, and they would fall apart.

Just putting an SEC team in C-USA for a ONE season comparison is NO COMPARISON, it's apples to kumquats!

How is White? Hopefully he'll be OK. Hate to see kids hurt.

(11-05-2017 06:37 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  How is White? Hopefully he'll be OK. Hate to see kids hurt.

Haven't heard anything yet, the whole WKU team got beat up pretty good while playing Vandy. It's almost like our offensive line has quit

(11-05-2017 06:44 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(11-05-2017 06:37 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  How is White? Hopefully he'll be OK. Hate to see kids hurt.

Haven't heard anything yet, the whole WKU team got beat up pretty good while playing Vandy. It's almost like our offensive line has quit

I believe you record every game you can....

you will be surprised at how well they block on most plays. Then a team lines up with 3 down linemen and send a 4th after the snap. And the call on the field is to double team 2 of the rushers and that late rusher goes right in that gap the offensive line made by taking the defender out of the rush.

So is it really blocking or scheming? Or teaching? Sometime they just get beat but I think if you stopped each play before the snap then stop and go while just watching the line. You will see something totally different.

I haven't watched Sundays replay so I can't speak for that

But here's one example of good blocking at the line and WR's standing and watching. If the WR makes a block Baker had room in the open field. They watch so the outside linebacker plugs the huge gap and Baker turns it back in.

Here;'s another example O-L doing their job but the TE does not cut off the linebacker and Baker cuts it up instead of hitting the end of the line. So it's 2 mistakes and none belonged to the O-L. They held their blocks sealing off the corner...

Baker should never cut it up and the TE should have hit the linebacker

The next play is a INT with White getting pressure...again not on the line but the blocking scheme ed at the line.







The next play is a INT with White getting pressure...again not on the line but the blocking scheme called at the line.

So is it the lines fault the linebacker came on a delayed blitz? When you send the back out into the play you have to have a 'hot' receiver to hit. Which would have been Fant coming over the middle in that blitzing linebackers area. The INT happened because Western ran 3 players in a crossing pattern 5 to 8 yards from the line into a zone defense






You will be surprised at the number of times it looks like the O-Line is to blame...when it's actually not

Really enjoying all your play breakdowns Guns. Seriously.


You think you can break down a little film on the Zapruder file for me doe? Lol.

That’s some good shitt amigo. Wonder if Boy Wonder has anyone breaking it down for him like that?

I love looking at stop and go replays.

You can really see where the weakness and why something works or doesn't and who's loafing. Our WR are really poor blockers out in the field. Last year there's no telling how many yards after the catch Western got because a WR laid wood to a defender. Or just held his ground. And for a TE Yelder is also. But he's huge catching the ball.

(11-05-2017 09:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I love looking at stop and go replays.

You can really see where the weakness and why something works or doesn't and who's loafing. Our WR are really poor blockers out in the field. Last year there's no telling how many yards after the catch Western got because a WR laid wood to a defender. Or just held his ground. And for a TE Yelder is also. But he's huge catching the ball.

Nicholas and Taywan both blocked the hell out of guys downfield. Don’t have to have Taywan Taylor speed to do that. Who’s our wide receivers coach? Same guy calling for obvious runs from the booth. Junior Adams.

(11-05-2017 11:21 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(11-05-2017 09:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I love looking at stop and go replays.

You can really see where the weakness and why something works or doesn't and who's loafing. Our WR are really poor blockers out in the field. Last year there's no telling how many yards after the catch Western got because a WR laid wood to a defender. Or just held his ground. And for a TE Yelder is also. But he's huge catching the ball.

Nicholas and Taywan both blocked the hell out of guys downfield. Don’t have to have Taywan Taylor speed to do that. Who’s our wide receivers coach? Same guy calling for obvious runs from the booth. Junior Adams.

I just watched the first half of the Vandy game and if I was grading them it would be no lower than a B+ for that first half. What people are seeing as line problems are for the most part poorly designed plays taking too long to develop or a full back not picking up a blitzing LB and RBs completely missing holes. Not all the time but more times than not.

At least 3 and maybe 4 times in that 1st half Western pulled the guard and there were holes open. On thee of them a LBer blitz where the guard left a open spot pulling to the other side. Full back never touched him and we loss yards but there was a huge hole opened.

On 3rd and 2 when Febry barely got the first down...again we pulled a guard and if Febry had followed instead of bulling into the defense. It had the chance to be a big run. A back with speed could have broke one.

The only time a lineman truly got beat in that first half was when the freshman just got manhandled on a spin that ended up with a sack.

I bet if you ask Western fans 90% of them would say no holes were open and the line played poor in that first half. From reading our board I was actually expecting to see just that. But knew my eyes saw what they saw.

I'm going to either break each offensive play down by pictures or video from the 1st half and If most down eat their words..they are just too hardheaded to admit it's really not the lines fault 9 games in. Maybe early in the season. But not now.

Its fairly clear that other teams know Western's plays and when they were running them. When a LB shoots the gap everytime we pull a guard. Something is tipping them off.

2nd play of the game for Western after gaining 4 on a swing pass to Moses. Pulling guard from the right side of the line and the LB shoots the gap. The full back runs right pass the LB and for the whole play the fullback never touches a defender. The guard opens the hole and drives the Vandy defender away from the play. As you can see the rest of the O-line blocked great on this play. There's also a huge hole that Moses tries to cut back in where the LB blitz from.

If the fullback puts a body on him this is a good gaining play. I say it's teach on our coaches part because it happens time after time on a pulling guard play. The play by play are like us fans they said "you will see plays like this today because those up front can't lock on"

So the fullback is not doing his job properly? Hmm. Care to guess who is coaching our running backs?

Mike Sanford Sr. The same architect of our ****** special teams. That Mike Sanford Sr. Dude is a career 34-73. That’s a loser. That’s not all on taking over bad programs on a career path of moving up. That’s being a football coach caught in the Peter principle. Moving to his level of incompetence. Dude needs to go. Not now. But end of season the decision to let Pops watch the grandkids instead of coach football needs to happen.

Western ran that play 3 or 4 times in the first half and 3 times a LB shot the gap and they are moving at the snap. So something in the way we line up or shift is giving this play away before the snap. I don't know about this staff but to me if you are running the ball the #1 job for the fullback should be to block a tackler in the offensive back field. Other wise the play is going to be blown up. I sure did not see anyone else that should have stopped the LB.

Another thing Ferby will not follow his block....

I know you will remember this 3rd and 2 play. Western gets the 1st down but it didn't need to be that hard. Western pulls the guard but this time it's not across the field (Goes to the same side of the RB). This is actually a good designed and carried out play. Other than Ferby lowering his head and bulling into a defender.