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(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

Hmm....a lefty who engages in hyperbole and hypocrisy scolding the righties of the board about a lack of integrity? Irony at it's finest.
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(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

Hmm....a lefty who engages in hyperbole and hypocrisy scolding the righties of the board about a lack of integrity? Irony at it's finest.

What hyperbole? Mind providing an example?
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(11-01-2017 02:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 02:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

Hmm....a lefty who engages in hyperbole and hypocrisy scolding the righties of the board about a lack of integrity? Irony at it's finest.

What hyperbole? Mind providing an example?

Sure.
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(11-01-2017 01:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:29 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
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(11-01-2017 01:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I honestly have to ask you, do you read posts before you reply? Because I quoted the exact text I had issue with, and provided evidence why it was a blatant lie to make that statement.

What lie? What do think about the timing and content of the NBC story? Or are you here just to derail a thread?

The lie I quoted, the text I originally responded to. Right here, I'll post it again, this time I'll underline, italicize, and bold it for you so you don't miss it on literally the 3rd time around.

Quote:NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is

That is factually incorrect, and no one actually looking at NBC's actual coverage could come to the conclusion he did. He either looked and lied, or didn't look and lied.
How so? Why do you refuse to comment on the article and timing of it? No muslim in the article said they were threatened or beaten by a non muslim. It is a non story.

I honestly am at a loss as to how else I can show you the false statement which dishonestly portrays NBC news is a lie. I've provided evidence from NBC news showing that statement is utterly false, and at this point I'm starting to think you're just a troll. The continued pushing of the timing and the fact no attacks have taken place, things which literally have nothing to do with the point being made, sort of confirms this.

NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC

You can't prove the above is true or not true. You have an opinion, nothing else.
It is very possible that the writer at NBC wanted to go interview the police or witnesses and his boss said go find some muslims and make them look good. Which is probably what happened. Why do you refuse to comment on the article and timing of it?
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Quote: You can't prove the above is true or not true. You have an opinion, nothing else.

No, I have provided the front page of NBC within minutes of this thread being made, rife with mentions of the attack and without a single mention of this story. It is a lie to claim NBC cares more about this than the story they've plastered all over their front page. Why can't you just admit that?
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RE: NBC News Writes First Muslim ‘Backlash’ Story Just 6 Hours After Deadly NYC Attack
(11-01-2017 01:02 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

What about the thread title is incorrect?

Where did she imply that the thread title was incorrect?

It's pretty clear that she was referring to what backer said in the body of the post:

"NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is."

If both of you admit there's nothing wrong with the thread title, then you are both admitting the bolded part is true. There is no reason to run a story about muslim backlash when no backlash has occurred, and the vast majority of reported backlash in the past 12 months has turned out to be fake.
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RE: NBC News Writes First Muslim ‘Backlash’ Story Just 6 Hours After Deadly NYC Attack
(11-01-2017 02:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:02 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

What about the thread title is incorrect?

Where did she imply that the thread title was incorrect?

It's pretty clear that she was referring to what backer said in the body of the post:

"NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is."

If both of you admit there's nothing wrong with the thread title, then you are both admitting the bolded part is true.

You realize that just because you make statements of fact, it still has to hold up to rational scrutiny and have a basis behind it for it to be taken as such.
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(11-01-2017 12:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
Quote: NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is.

Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

So you're saying the image he posted is fake? It doesn't look real to you? You don't agree that their only concern right now should be the innocent lives claimed in the name of Islam and not some made up concern about about how Islam and Muslims will be castigated?

Honestly, are you here to just ignore the things I write and rewrite my response in a way that you find more offensive? The OP clearly lied, NBC does not in any stretch of the imagination care more about this story than the one plastering their front page right now. As for them only being concerned with this innocent lives, should they not report on weather or stocks, too?

Do you have any intention of having a discussion in good faith, in which you actually address what I say and at least attempt an objective perspective? I mean that as a genuine question, because that's what I'm here for but if you just want to shout at shadows, that's fine.

What? I can't respond to your questions with questions of my own? I sincerely want to know, isn't that OK? I can't have a different perspective than yours?
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(11-01-2017 01:02 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:50 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Anyone else here willing to call out the OP for being blatantly dishonest? Any conservatives out there with any sense of integrity left?

What about the thread title is incorrect?

Where did she imply that the thread title was incorrect?

It's pretty clear that she was referring to what backer said in the body of the post:

"NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is."

He's not allowed an opinion or allowed to express it here? Is that really a she? If so it explains a lot, doesn't it?
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(11-01-2017 04:04 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 12:45 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:48 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
Quote: NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is.

Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

So you're saying the image he posted is fake? It doesn't look real to you? You don't agree that their only concern right now should be the innocent lives claimed in the name of Islam and not some made up concern about about how Islam and Muslims will be castigated?

Honestly, are you here to just ignore the things I write and rewrite my response in a way that you find more offensive? The OP clearly lied, NBC does not in any stretch of the imagination care more about this story than the one plastering their front page right now. As for them only being concerned with this innocent lives, should they not report on weather or stocks, too?

Do you have any intention of having a discussion in good faith, in which you actually address what I say and at least attempt an objective perspective? I mean that as a genuine question, because that's what I'm here for but if you just want to shout at shadows, that's fine.

What? I can't respond to your questions with questions of my own? I sincerely want to know, isn't that OK? I can't have a different perspective than yours?

Of course you can, I just have every right to point out that your questions have absolutely nothing with the issue my post is presenting. Are you going to admit that original post was dishonest, inaccurate, not-truthful, or at the very least misleading?
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(11-01-2017 01:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
Quote: NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is.

Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

What are you babbling about? NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nyc-te...ck-n816291

One of the first persons they interviewed after the attack, a student, was quick to point out as the interview was wrapping up that the attacker couldn't have possibly been Muslim because he had on a hoodie and didn't look like a middle easterner and that no true follower of the faith would have engaged in such barbarism. Wrong.
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(11-01-2017 04:09 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
Quote: NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is.

Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

What are you babbling about? NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nyc-te...ck-n816291

One of the first persons they interviewed after the attack, a student, was quick to point out as the interview was wrapping up that the attacker couldn't have possibly been Muslim because he had on a hoodie and didn't look like a middle easterner and that no true follower of the faith would have engaged in such barbarism. Wrong.

And?
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(11-01-2017 01:29 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:21 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

What are you babbling about? NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nyc-te...ck-n816291

I honestly have to ask you, do you read posts before you reply? Because I quoted the exact text I had issue with, and provided evidence why it was a blatant lie to make that statement.

What lie? What do think about the timing and content of the NBC story? Or are you here just to derail a thread?

The lie I quoted, the text I originally responded to. Right here, I'll post it again, this time I'll underline, italicize, and bold it for you so you don't miss it on literally the 3rd time around.

Quote:NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is

That is factually incorrect, and no one actually looking at NBC's actual coverage could come to the conclusion he did. He either looked and lied, or didn't look and lied.

So his opinion is a lie? How can an opinion be a lie? Now you can disagree with his opinion all you want but you can't simply dismiss his opinion as a lie, can you? How is that even possible? Isn't parsing fun?
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(11-01-2017 04:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 04:09 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
Quote: NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is.

Why are you being so dishonest? MSNBC had nothing but NYC coverage for hours, and this is literally the front page of NBC News right now.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/Gtxow2ka...bcnews.com

Where is that story on their front page? How many stories are on their front page about the attack itself, and his religious association. Why do you have to lie just be outraged?.

What are you babbling about? NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nyc-te...ck-n816291

One of the first persons they interviewed after the attack, a student, was quick to point out as the interview was wrapping up that the attacker couldn't have possibly been Muslim because he had on a hoodie and didn't look like a middle easterner and that no true follower of the faith would have engaged in such barbarism. Wrong.

And?

And "NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted." And he was wrong wasn't he?
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(11-01-2017 04:11 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:29 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:21 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  What are you babbling about? NBC went out looking for muslims to interview and paint a picture that they are going to be targeted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/nyc-te...ck-n816291

I honestly have to ask you, do you read posts before you reply? Because I quoted the exact text I had issue with, and provided evidence why it was a blatant lie to make that statement.

What lie? What do think about the timing and content of the NBC story? Or are you here just to derail a thread?

The lie I quoted, the text I originally responded to. Right here, I'll post it again, this time I'll underline, italicize, and bold it for you so you don't miss it on literally the 3rd time around.

Quote:NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is

That is factually incorrect, and no one actually looking at NBC's actual coverage could come to the conclusion he did. He either looked and lied, or didn't look and lied.

So his opinion is a lie? How can an opinion be a lie? Now you can disagree with his opinion all you want but you can't simply dismiss his opinion as a lie, can you? How is that even possible? Isn't parsing fun?

I'd prefer genuine discussion with those worried about not perpetuating needless divisive rhetoric, but to each their own. I get some people need it to justify their beliefs.
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(11-01-2017 04:13 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 04:11 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 01:29 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
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(11-01-2017 01:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I honestly have to ask you, do you read posts before you reply? Because I quoted the exact text I had issue with, and provided evidence why it was a blatant lie to make that statement.

What lie? What do think about the timing and content of the NBC story? Or are you here just to derail a thread?

The lie I quoted, the text I originally responded to. Right here, I'll post it again, this time I'll underline, italicize, and bold it for you so you don't miss it on literally the 3rd time around.

Quote:NBC far more concerned about this than the innocent people run down and murdered yesterday. Words can't express what a pathetic company NBC is

That is factually incorrect, and no one actually looking at NBC's actual coverage could come to the conclusion he did. He either looked and lied, or didn't look and lied.

So his opinion is a lie? How can an opinion be a lie? Now you can disagree with his opinion all you want but you can't simply dismiss his opinion as a lie, can you? How is that even possible? Isn't parsing fun?

I'd prefer genuine discussion with those worried about not perpetuating needless divisive rhetoric, but to each their own. I get some people need it to justify their beliefs.

You lie! Your posting history since your return backs my claim up.
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NBC catching hell for this article. Well deserved.

Backlash against NBC
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yep, despicable behavior from the fake news.
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(11-02-2017 10:49 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  NBC catching hell for this article. Well deserved.

Backlash against NBC

That can't be true, UFC said so...
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