(11-01-2017 04:30 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:28 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:25 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:18 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:06 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  And this is why watching Memphis fans is so fun. Like 60% of your online fanbase would prefer to just cheat your way back to relevance, and continually shout down anyone who says "well maybe this guy can do it right with time."

NCAA is a corrupt system that makes billions off the back of mostly unpaid labor. Hell yes I want a coach that funnels as much money as possible to the players.

Some people have a really funny idea of what "unpaid" means.

High level players at major college basketball programs do not make a fair market value nor is the free market allowed to set what they are worth. So yes, players that are good enough to cheat for are mostly unpaid in comparison to their value to the university.

It's called amateur sports for a reason. Don't like it, go play somewhere else.

But its not amateur sports. Amateur sports outside the NCAA dont prevent players from benefiting from their likeness.

An olympic swimmer can be in TV commercials or sell Subway sandwiches. Why shouldnt Lamar Jackson be allowed to do the same thing?

Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

The NCAA is a cartel that at is core is only for the few who have power at the expense of free market principles.

(11-01-2017 11:02 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  S Carolina
Villanova
Wisconson
Georgia (not sure how good they will be)

Haha, love how you left out the kitty kats!

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:30 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:28 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:25 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:18 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  NCAA is a corrupt system that makes billions off the back of mostly unpaid labor. Hell yes I want a coach that funnels as much money as possible to the players.

Some people have a really funny idea of what "unpaid" means.

High level players at major college basketball programs do not make a fair market value nor is the free market allowed to set what they are worth. So yes, players that are good enough to cheat for are mostly unpaid in comparison to their value to the university.

It's called amateur sports for a reason. Don't like it, go play somewhere else.

Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:30 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:28 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:25 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Some people have a really funny idea of what "unpaid" means.

High level players at major college basketball programs do not make a fair market value nor is the free market allowed to set what they are worth. So yes, players that are good enough to cheat for are mostly unpaid in comparison to their value to the university.

It's called amateur sports for a reason. Don't like it, go play somewhere else.

Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:30 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:28 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  High level players at major college basketball programs do not make a fair market value nor is the free market allowed to set what they are worth. So yes, players that are good enough to cheat for are mostly unpaid in comparison to their value to the university.

It's called amateur sports for a reason. Don't like it, go play somewhere else.

Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Great discussion on marquee games. LOL

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:30 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  It's called amateur sports for a reason. Don't like it, go play somewhere else.

Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

(11-01-2017 04:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Great discussion on marquee games. LOL

I know right?

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

College sports aren't in the 'fair market' though. If they were then only the top 15 or so schools would win every single year. If the kids want to get their "market value" they can go play overseas and see how much they get paid there. Then they can come back to the NCAA.

(11-01-2017 05:06 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

College sports aren't in the 'fair market' though. If they were then only the top 15 or so schools would win every single year. If the kids want to get their "market value" they can go play overseas and see how much they get paid there. Then they can come back to the NCAA.

You mean the NBA, right?

(11-01-2017 05:06 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

College sports aren't in the 'fair market' though. If they were then only the top 15 or so schools would win every single year. If the kids want to get their "market value" they can go play overseas and see how much they get paid there. Then they can come back to the NCAA.

Only the top 15 or so schools win every year anyway.

The last 20 National Titles were won by 10 schools. 5 schools won 15 of those titles(UNC, Duke, UCONN, Kentucky, and Florida).

Nothing would change. The same schools that win now will win in this world. Only difference is that those players would be properly compensated for the value they bring.

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:37 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Why shouldnt any Wichita State player be allowed to be sell autographs at a car dealership on a Sunday morning?

If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

They wouldn’t be paying for the autograph they’d be paying for the kid. You’re arguing for paying players, you’re not arguing to allow players to sell autographs.

(11-01-2017 05:21 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  If you can't see why that doesn't work, I'm really not sure there is much more to discuss.

What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

They wouldn’t be paying for the autograph they’d be paying for the kid. You’re arguing for paying players, you’re not arguing to allow players to sell autographs.

I'm arguing for both.

(11-01-2017 05:17 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:06 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:55 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 04:50 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  What is wrong with that? There is absolutely nothing other than the NCAA rules. It's not illegal, its not unethical. Its an adult using his skills/fame to make a living just like any of us do in life.

We wouldnt have a problem with Michael Phelps doing it. We wouldnt have an issue with any Olympian doing it....because they do it all the time and we dont even notice.

Just because the NCAA has rules against doesnt make it wrong and doesnt mean they should have rules against it.

Because a booster will pay well above market value for the autograph.

Something is worth what someone will pay for it. So if a booster is willing to pay it, that is its market value. It's simple supply and demand economics. This isnt rocket science.

College sports aren't in the 'fair market' though. If they were then only the top 15 or so schools would win every single year. If the kids want to get their "market value" they can go play overseas and see how much they get paid there. Then they can come back to the NCAA.

Only the top 15 or so schools win every year anyway.

The last 20 National Titles were won by 10 schools. 5 schools won 15 of those titles(UNC, Duke, UCONN, Kentucky, and Florida).

Nothing would change. The same schools that win now will win in this world. Only difference is that those players would be properly compensated for the value they bring.

It would absolutely kill the NCAA tournament though, because any time a good player had a good season for a lower market team he could transfer to the school that would pay him most. They kind of already do that... but it needs to be cracked down on, not opened up to anarchy.

https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status...8545183744

https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status...3355429888

(11-01-2017 08:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status...3355429888

LOL. That's awesome.

Paging Rutgers Guy..

(11-01-2017 04:40 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 11:02 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  S Carolina
Villanova
Wisconson
Georgia (not sure how good they will be)

Haha, love how you left out the kitty kats!

Which Kitty Kats are you referring to?

(11-01-2017 10:24 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  UCF would most likely to play Nebraska, West Virginia.

The Knights will also play Alabama and Mizzou

what about your school?

Tulane just beat LSU in its Exhibition Game

WOW, what an achievement. The NBA coach is seriously doing work down in New Orleans.

Can't wait for the Basketball season!

sorry but Nebraska and Alabama are not marquee OOC games....not in hoops.

Mizzou used to be a good win...used to be.

(11-01-2017 10:39 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 10:28 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I really think Wichita State is way overrated. We will see them once Conference game starts.

Let's not derail this thread, the OP was a good topic to start.

I think we should list marquee games...some people are just listing P5 schools. Alabama, Nebraska, Kstate etc are NOT marquee basketball games.