(11-01-2017 12:47 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Well Trump's nationalist are shooting at people at their white power rallies and running them over with cars.

They are?

This sounds awful, where are these “nationalists” shooting at people and running “them” over with cars?

How many have suffered in this, clearly, widespread carnage?

Ok JMU......

let's both cut the snark for a paragraph and then we can rearm if need be.........

Do you understand his point? Is there merit to the point? Is there a truly fundamental difference?

Crazy is crazy....... It could be a terrorist, white nationalist, a white gambler, a kid hopped up on Ritalin and God knows what else. You CAN"T judge a race, ethnicity, or religion on an action of a few. At least in my opinion.

Now back to the normal spin room.

Two things that did cross my mind that I would like to address in a semi intelligent matter if we can.

1. The cops shot the guy in the belly. Now we can find out where the screws turned loose.

2. Thank God the guy didn't have access to semi automatic weapons with a bump stock.......

Thank God New York City is a huge soft target that doesn't let it citizens or visitors with concealed carry licenses protect themselves or their families.

Here is a real event the Dems could use for an add,

REVEALED: Man, 22, who' beat a Muslim girl, 17, to death with a metal baseball bat after he kidnapped her as she left a mosque' is an illegal immigrant
The death of Nabra Hassanen, who was assaulted after she left a mosque early Sunday morning, was the result of road rage, police said Monday
Darwin Martinez Torres, 22, appeared in court on Monday to face murder charge
It is now being reported ICE believed the 22-year-old was in the US illegally

A 22-year-old man accused of assaulting a Muslim teenager after she left a mosque on Sunday morning may have been in the country illegally.

Darwin Martinez Torres, 22, appeared in court on Monday to face a murder charge after he got into a dispute with the 17-year-old Nabra Hassanen and a group of her friends in Sterling, North Virginia, the Fairfax County Police Department said.

Martinez got out of the car, assaulted the girl, and beat her with a metal baseball bat, her mother said. Police later found a body believed to be Hassanen's in a Sterling pond about 25 miles outside of Washington DC.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...gally.html

Rath it would have been much worse with loose gun laws?

Compare this to Vegas. One used a truck the other an arsenal legally bought. You guys lose that argument all day every day....

Thank god indeed.

(11-01-2017 07:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Rath it would have been much worse with loose gun laws?

Compare this to Vegas. One used a truck the other an arsenal legally bought. You guys lose that argument all day every day....

Thank god indeed.

You know what, I pulled you off of ignore a while back but I'm considering that a rash decision at this point.

Unless I am mistaken, this board is named in memory of your daughter, correct? My guess is she must have been a quality poster to have enough people think fondly about her to name it as such. Something has gone terribly wrong with you, however.

You are the rest of board's problem again because you've just been relegated to my batshit crazy dustbin with founding members mplsboson and John01992.

Go play in traffic you lunatic.

Ignore function on.

(10-31-2017 08:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:01 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  They pulled the ad.

The fact that ad was ever created says volumes about what sick, disturbed people liberal Dems are.

I mean, I had absolutely nothing to do with this ad, but I guess because I support workers rights, a social safety net comparative to the rest of the developed world, and greater access to healthcare I'm a "sick, disturbed" person.

I have no problem with you wanting what you listed. With that said, conservatives have seen this type of stuff over and over........rather than the Democrat candidate or ad for them saying what you listed, they show a caricature running over kids or the ever famous - "they want grandma to have to eat dog food".

Basically, an over the top labeling of the person (group) they are running against.

This ad is over the top, not accurate, and designed to do no more that play into the uninformed folks fears.

It's disgusting and beyond having any truth to it. Yep - the Republican candidate wants grandpa to die of cancer...........

(11-01-2017 07:30 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Ignore function on.

Blocking him has really made the forum a bit more readable for me again...

(10-31-2017 08:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:01 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  They pulled the ad.

The fact that ad was ever created says volumes about what sick, disturbed people liberal Dems are.

I mean, I had absolutely nothing to do with this ad, but I guess because I support workers rights, a social safety net comparative to the rest of the developed world, and greater access to healthcare I'm a "sick, disturbed" person.

If you have no problem supporting a party that thinks running ads like this is OK then yes you are.

(11-01-2017 08:47 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 07:30 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Ignore function on.

Blocking him has really made the forum a bit more readable for me again...

Is your goal to just not have any liberal perspective on this messageboard at all? Because he's the majority of it. I pop by here every once and awhile to see just how much further the overton window has gone right, you guys keep on tugging, and in what way are you outrageously categorizing liberals nowadays. But if you block him, it's basically just Rush Limbaugh talking to Hannity with a lot of downright lies perpetuated by the President himself. You, uh, really want that?

(11-01-2017 09:18 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 08:47 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 07:30 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Ignore function on.

Blocking him has really made the forum a bit more readable for me again...

Is your goal to just not have any liberal perspective on this messageboard at all?

No it's to block out people who resort to **** posting and logical fallacies. I like Mach, I do... But since the election he is unreadable. He has become the biggest example of a guy with double standards here, he really has descended into John0 levels of cringe. So I'm going to block him, and hope at some point in the future he goes back to being a thoughtful poster.

Now... UCF....

I asked a yesterday and did not see your answer. What do you think about this ad?

As to this whole issue, yeah the ad was bad and it would make me question my support for this candidate. I do not live in Virginia, so I can't do that. If you want to argue that I should stop voting for all Democrats everywhere because of this ad, you know that's an absurd statement. Your elected POTUS tweeted out literal fake racist statistics of violent crime, how are you all still voting GOP?

As much as you want to ignore the fallacy of your earlier statement in this thread.

(11-01-2017 09:24 AM)banker Wrote:  As much as you want to ignore the fallacy of your earlier statement in this thread.

Is that aimed at me? What fallacy?

(10-31-2017 09:28 PM)banker Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:50 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:43 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The fact that ad was ever created says volumes about what sick, disturbed people liberal Dems are.

I mean, I had absolutely nothing to do with this ad, but I guess because I support workers rights, a social safety net comparative to the rest of the developed world, and greater access to healthcare I'm a "sick, disturbed" person.

My God you are becoming as bat sh!t crazy as Mach.

Seriously is it a run of the mill mental defect or something in the water? Perhaps licking baseboards and windowsills? Don't breed.

It's so weird seeing people respond to posts without any semblance of relevance to the post they're responding to. I pointed out that it was absurd for a person to characterize the entirety of a vague political identity because of one ad, and your response is to ask if I have a "run of the mill mental defect" or if I'm "bat sh!t crazy"?

Take a breath, read what I wrote, and try again.

The issue is, that given your preference, you would put the people for whom these ads are created, in positions of power and influence. The ad is the lowest form of stereotyping and leads to increased racial divide in the area in which it is viewed. The fact that the candidate approved, and stands behind, the ad shows a level of derangement. The act of supporting such a deranged candidate requires that the supporter also must possess some level of derangement. I admit that it was speculation as to whether or not licking windowsills or baseboards led to said derangement.

Holy hell, I missed this gem. Yeah, sure, that's a fair appraisal of this situation without the slightest bit of hyperbole. Stop with the feigned outrage Martha, no one is buying it. It was a bad ad that shouldn't have been made and was rescinded.

(10-31-2017 08:43 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:01 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  They pulled the ad.

The fact that ad was ever created says volumes about what sick, disturbed people liberal Dems are.

I mean, I had absolutely nothing to do with this ad, but I guess because I support workers rights, a social safety net comparative to the rest of the developed world, and greater access to healthcare I'm a "sick, disturbed" person.

My God you are becoming as bat sh!t crazy as Mach.

Seriously is it a run of the mill mental defect or something in the water? Perhaps licking baseboards and windowsills? Don't breed.

UCF08 is a nut job.

(11-01-2017 09:23 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  As to this whole issue, yeah the ad was bad and it would make me question my support for this candidate.

Thank you, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Quote:If you want to argue that I should stop voting for all Democrats everywhere because of this ad, you know that's an absurd statement.

Nobody made that argument, did they? someone pointed out that these kinds of adds are pretty common in the democratic party.... Remember some guy who looked like Paul Ryan(?) dumping an old lady off a cliff? Remember the Daisey add?

Quote: Your elected POTUS tweeted out literal fake racist statistics of violent crime, how are you all still voting GOP?

You're assuming I voted GOP the last time, making a lot of assumptions there...

Quote:

(11-01-2017 09:43 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  [quote='UCF08' pid='14733713' dateline='1509546232']
As to this whole issue, yeah the ad was bad and it would make me question my support for this candidate.

Thank you, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Quote:If you want to argue that I should stop voting for all Democrats everywhere because of this ad, you know that's an absurd statement.[/quote

Nobody made that argument, did they? someone pointed out that these kinds of adds are pretty common in the democratic party.... Remember some guy who looked like Paul Ryan(?) dumping an old lady off a cliff? Remember the Daisey add?

[quote] Your elected POTUS tweeted out literal fake racist statistics of violent crime, how are you all still voting GOP?

You're assuming I voted GOP the last time, making a lot of assumptions there...

Sorry that I missed you asking me that the first time, but you should know that response is the most passive aggressive thing I've heard since I had a tea party with my niece.

Sorry I assumed you voted GOP? You could have maybe added to the discussion next time instead of just wanting us to have an entire exchange acknowledging the fact that I did in fact assume you voted GOP, but you seem to like the attention so have at it.

(11-01-2017 09:52 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Sorry that I missed you asking me that the first time, but you should know that response is the most passive aggressive thing I've heard since I had a tea party with my niece.

There was nothing passive about it, cupcake...

Quote:Sorry I assumed you voted GOP?

Yes, and I vote dems, and I vote third party. What's funny is you try to complain about my being "passive aggressive" and then you yourself engage in a world class fit of whataboutism.

(11-01-2017 09:23 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  As to this whole issue, yeah the ad was bad and it would make me question my support for this candidate. I do not live in Virginia, so I can't do that. If you want to argue that I should stop voting for all Democrats everywhere because of this ad, you know that's an absurd statement. Your elected POTUS tweeted out literal fake racist statistics of violent crime, how are you all still voting GOP?

All I was looking for.......

Goes to prove that political discourse (to some degree on both sides) has devolved to National Enquirer levels of hyperbole and damn near outright lying.

Wondering how much longer before we see ads actually showing shootings and rapes - then blaming X candidates policies for it......