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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-05-2017 10:45 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:55 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  I think the defense played great yesterday. But if we had made just one of the dropped interceptions yesterday I think we would have seen more production on offense. Especially the one at their 10 yard line. Ugh! SW missed on some passes, no doubt. The one to Vaughn that took 10 min to review, would have been a big gainer if he hit him in stride. But the running game was weak. It looked like our line was not opening any holes. I am not impressed with the performance of this line. I have no answers there except they need to start moving some defenders. Still, very happy with the defensive performance. They were the biggest reason for this win that was badly needed.

On a side note, it seems like the coaches have no confidence in throwing downfield on 3rd and long. I like the screen play to Harper but they need to do that on 1st or 2nd down. If they are blitzing on 3rd try a slant or maybe a flare to Lowry.

I don't know. We have averaged 156 ypg on the ground this year, and we got 148 yesterday with Lawry at less than 100% with a hip pointer and with losing Cox to a shoulder injury during the game. It was a conservatively called game in an effort to avoid the turnovers that have plagued us -- and it got the job done. We have a -10 turnover margin with 20 turnovers lost through our first eight games for an average of 2.5 turnovers per game. Fourteen of those turnovers were interceptions, with the large majority coming on longer passes. Something had to change -- and it did.
You make a good point. When you factor in turnovers and the lack thereof yesterday it makes sense.
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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-04-2017 08:15 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  ODU football is in big trouble folks. SW has been terrible....face it, and to you posters that think he needs reps because he is the future, what in the world have you seen that makes you think he is the future. I sure hope SW is not the future! Just because your young doesn't mean you grow and get better! I don't blame SW, him starting at 17 is reflection 0f Wilder's big time failure to recruit. Why in the world are we in a position that we have to start a 17 year old QB who isn't even some kind of of boy wonder. There are tons of high school 17 year old's playing HS this year that would be as good or better then SW. I saw a post that SW had at least 2 drops what about the 3 easy passes that would of gone for big plays that he completely screwed up with lack of accuracy. ODU isn't an easy place to recruit right now but Wilder cant even recruit a punter.

Wilders other problem. He needs to start acting like he coaches a legitimate football team and act like he has some sense. He has gotten into this bad habit of going for it on 4th down somewhere in every game where he has no business doing it often times when we have leads or the game is close.

We are playing such bad football fans are going to leave and seeing Wilder celebrate and hearing him on the radio made me sick. Wilder you scored 6 points on a one win team that plays in CUSA. Wilder's record speaks for itself now and will buy him time but over the next few years that record is going to take a big hit and this isnt going to end well.

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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-05-2017 11:06 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 10:45 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:55 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  I think the defense played great yesterday. But if we had made just one of the dropped interceptions yesterday I think we would have seen more production on offense. Especially the one at their 10 yard line. Ugh! SW missed on some passes, no doubt. The one to Vaughn that took 10 min to review, would have been a big gainer if he hit him in stride. But the running game was weak. It looked like our line was not opening any holes. I am not impressed with the performance of this line. I have no answers there except they need to start moving some defenders. Still, very happy with the defensive performance. They were the biggest reason for this win that was badly needed.

On a side note, it seems like the coaches have no confidence in throwing downfield on 3rd and long. I like the screen play to Harper but they need to do that on 1st or 2nd down. If they are blitzing on 3rd try a slant or maybe a flare to Lowry.

I don't know. We have averaged 156 ypg on the ground this year, and we got 148 yesterday with Lawry at less than 100% with a hip pointer and with losing Cox to a shoulder injury during the game. It was a conservatively called game in an effort to avoid the turnovers that have plagued us -- and it got the job done. We have a -10 turnover margin with 20 turnovers lost through our first eight games for an average of 2.5 turnovers per game. Fourteen of those turnovers were interceptions, with the large majority coming on longer passes. Something had to change -- and it did.
You make a good point. When you factor in turnovers and the lack thereof yesterday it makes sense.
Seems plausible.

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11-05-2017 12:17 PM
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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-05-2017 11:56 AM)Grommet Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 08:15 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  ODU football is in big trouble folks. SW has been terrible....face it, and to you posters that think he needs reps because he is the future, what in the world have you seen that makes you think he is the future. I sure hope SW is not the future! Just because your young doesn't mean you grow and get better! I don't blame SW, him starting at 17 is reflection 0f Wilder's big time failure to recruit. Why in the world are we in a position that we have to start a 17 year old QB who isn't even some kind of of boy wonder. There are tons of high school 17 year old's playing HS this year that would be as good or better then SW. I saw a post that SW had at least 2 drops what about the 3 easy passes that would of gone for big plays that he completely screwed up with lack of accuracy. ODU isn't an easy place to recruit right now but Wilder cant even recruit a punter.

Wilders other problem. He needs to start acting like he coaches a legitimate football team and act like he has some sense. He has gotten into this bad habit of going for it on 4th down somewhere in every game where he has no business doing it often times when we have leads or the game is close.

We are playing such bad football fans are going to leave and seeing Wilder celebrate and hearing him on the radio made me sick. Wilder you scored 6 points on a one win team that plays in CUSA. Wilder's record speaks for itself now and will buy him time but over the next few years that record is going to take a big hit and this isnt going to end well.

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11-05-2017 02:45 PM
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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-05-2017 11:56 AM)Grommet Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 08:15 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  ODU football is in big trouble folks. SW has been terrible....face it, and to you posters that think he needs reps because he is the future, what in the world have you seen that makes you think he is the future. I sure hope SW is not the future! Just because your young doesn't mean you grow and get better! I don't blame SW, him starting at 17 is reflection 0f Wilder's big time failure to recruit. Why in the world are we in a position that we have to start a 17 year old QB who isn't even some kind of of boy wonder. There are tons of high school 17 year old's playing HS this year that would be as good or better then SW. I saw a post that SW had at least 2 drops what about the 3 easy passes that would of gone for big plays that he completely screwed up with lack of accuracy. ODU isn't an easy place to recruit right now but Wilder cant even recruit a punter.

Wilders other problem. He needs to start acting like he coaches a legitimate football team and act like he has some sense. He has gotten into this bad habit of going for it on 4th down somewhere in every game where he has no business doing it often times when we have leads or the game is close.

We are playing such bad football fans are going to leave and seeing Wilder celebrate and hearing him on the radio made me sick. Wilder you scored 6 points on a one win team that plays in CUSA. Wilder's record speaks for itself now and will buy him time but over the next few years that record is going to take a big hit and this isnt going to end well.

GREAT FIRST POST!







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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
Went back through the game again; outside of the final score, we pretty much dominated the game. Here were Charlottes drives:

Yards:
5
9
31
0
5
43
39
33
9
23
9

Wow, 1 drive over 40 yards all game and only 8 first downs. We actually maintained the ball and drove, but had trouble finishing drives again. We have to figure out a way to beat the defense that plays cover 4 or cover 2. Really need to run the ball better vs. those defensive looks.

Our drives:

55 yards
49 yards
0
20
22
27
31
42
29
55

Averaged about 30 yards per drive, but rarely had field position.
11-06-2017 11:20 AM
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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
(11-05-2017 08:55 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 11:56 AM)Grommet Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 08:15 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  ODU football is in big trouble folks. SW has been terrible....face it, and to you posters that think he needs reps because he is the future, what in the world have you seen that makes you think he is the future. I sure hope SW is not the future! Just because your young doesn't mean you grow and get better! I don't blame SW, him starting at 17 is reflection 0f Wilder's big time failure to recruit. Why in the world are we in a position that we have to start a 17 year old QB who isn't even some kind of of boy wonder. There are tons of high school 17 year old's playing HS this year that would be as good or better then SW. I saw a post that SW had at least 2 drops what about the 3 easy passes that would of gone for big plays that he completely screwed up with lack of accuracy. ODU isn't an easy place to recruit right now but Wilder cant even recruit a punter.

Wilders other problem. He needs to start acting like he coaches a legitimate football team and act like he has some sense. He has gotten into this bad habit of going for it on 4th down somewhere in every game where he has no business doing it often times when we have leads or the game is close.

We are playing such bad football fans are going to leave and seeing Wilder celebrate and hearing him on the radio made me sick. Wilder you scored 6 points on a one win team that plays in CUSA. Wilder's record speaks for itself now and will buy him time but over the next few years that record is going to take a big hit and this isnt going to end well.

GREAT FIRST POST!







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(11-04-2017 08:15 PM)Earl44 Wrote:  He has gotten into this bad habit of going for it on 4th down somewhere in every game where he has no business doing it often times when we have leads or the game is close.

AND it's ALWAYS in shotgun formation. So a 4th and 1 is really a 4th and 5. Bobby told me the QB can see the field better. Buncha crap IMHO.

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RE: Charlotte Game Thread
Interestingly enough. The Ohio State fans were having a similar discussion.

https://scout.com/college/ohio-state/Boa...n-54695512

Their coach must suck too. But there are some good explanations for why in there. Makes sense.
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