I find realignment threads to be the most fun by far. We all know it is likely that the CFB world will see a massive realignment in 2025, but what will it be?

Here's mine.

B1G: same 14 members
ACC: same 15 members
SEC: same 14 members

Pac-16
West: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA
East: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Big 12
West: Kansas, Kansas St., BYU, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Houston
East: UConn, Cincy, WVU, UCF, USF, Memphis, Iowa State

American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

Mountain West
West: Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico
East: Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force

*San Jose State drops football due to financial concerns and California's anti-football agenda and joins the Big West

MAC: same 12 members

Sun Belt:
West: UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas State
East: Appalachian State, Troy, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

Indies: Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Liberty

Charlotte, UMass, and NMSU (and SJSU) give up and punt on football.
This would mean there would be 9 conferences and 126 schools.

(10-29-2017 09:26 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I find realignment threads to be the most fun by far. We all know it is likely that the CFB world will see a massive realignment in 2025, but what will it be?

Here's mine.

B1G: same 14 members
ACC: same 15 members
SEC: same 14 members

Pac-16
West: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA
East: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Big 12
West: Kansas, Kansas St., BYU, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Houston
East: UConn, Cincy, WVU, UCF, USF, Memphis, Iowa State

American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

Mountain West
West: Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico
East: Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force

*San Jose State drops football due to financial concerns and California's anti-football agenda and joins the Big West

MAC: same 12 members

Sun Belt:
West: UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas State
East: Appalachian State, Troy, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

Indies: Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Liberty

Charlotte, UMass, and NMSU (and SJSU) give up and punt on football.
This would mean there would be 9 conferences and 126 schools.

While I don't see the XII crew heading west, if, for argument's sake, they do, then Kansas is off the the B1G.

(10-29-2017 09:26 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

How many teams the non-power conferences aim for will likely be dictated by the new CFP payout structure.

For the American/C-USA in your scenario, it'd probably be better to split the teams north/south.

North: ECU, Marshall, MTSU, ODU, Temple, WKU
South: FAU, FIU, La Tech, Tulane, UAB, USM

(10-29-2017 09:26 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I find realignment threads to be the most fun by far. We all know it is likely that the CFB world will see a massive realignment in 2025, but what will it be?

Here's mine.

B1G: same 14 members
ACC: same 15 members
SEC: same 14 members

Pac-16
West: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA
East: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Big 12
West: Kansas, Kansas St., BYU, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Houston
East: UConn, Cincy, WVU, UCF, USF, Memphis, Iowa State

American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

Mountain West
West: Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico
East: Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force

*San Jose State drops football due to financial concerns and California's anti-football agenda and joins the Big West

MAC: same 12 members

Sun Belt:
West: UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas State
East: Appalachian State, Troy, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

Indies: Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Liberty

Charlotte, UMass, and NMSU (and SJSU) give up and punt on football.
This would mean there would be 9 conferences and 126 schools.

Texas, Oklahoma and others would be looking east, not west. Sorry, Texas, Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will not go to the PAC 12.

San Jose State will not drop football. The California schools have been getting rid of ADs who ran those private east coast schools that dropped football. Many California schools have been talking about bringing football back to the schools.

(10-29-2017 09:26 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I find realignment threads to be the most fun by far. We all know it is likely that the CFB world will see a massive realignment in 2025, but what will it be?

Here's mine.

B1G: same 14 members
ACC: same 15 members
SEC: same 14 members

Pac-16
West: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA
East: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Big 12
West: Kansas, Kansas St., BYU, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Houston
East: UConn, Cincy, WVU, UCF, USF, Memphis, Iowa State

American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

Mountain West
West: Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico
East: Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force

*San Jose State drops football due to financial concerns and California's anti-football agenda and joins the Big West

MAC: same 12 members

Sun Belt:
West: UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas State
East: Appalachian State, Troy, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

Indies: Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Liberty

Charlotte, UMass, and NMSU (and SJSU) give up and punt on football.
This would mean there would be 9 conferences and 126 schools.

By 2026 the Great Reckoning will occur in regards to cable tv. Streaming apps will be the new norm which will take emphasis away from schools in big cable tv markets and give it to schools with large established fan bases who will tune in via app. Bad news for recent start up programs.

Schools who drop to FCS or drop football all together: UMASS, Charlotte, Coastal Carolina, ULM, FIU, and Akron

PAC12 and BIG12 cause the shuffle:

PAC12 becomes PAC14 when they add SDSU and Colorado State

MWC backfills with NMSU and UTEP

BIG12 becomes goes to 12 by adding TexasA&M, Arkansas, and Mizzou and losing WVU

The SEC responds by adding FSU, Clemson, Louisville, Va Tech, and losing Vandy

The ACC responds by adding WVU, Navy, UCF, and Vandy

The AAC responds by adding ODU and Army

The MAC replaces Akron with Marshall

CUSA has now lost Marshall, UTEP, Charlotte, and FIU, and the Sun Belt has lost ULM and Coastal. The two conferences reshuffle into regional conferences.

New Sun Belt: FAU, Ga Southern, Ga State, App State, MTSU, WKU, UAB, Troy, USA, Southern Miss

New CUSA: ULL, Arkansas State, La Tech, Rice, UNT, TXST, UTSA, Central Arkansas, Mizz State, Western Illinois

(10-30-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  New CUSA: ULL, Arkansas State, La Tech, Rice, UNT, TXST, UTSA, Central Arkansas, Mizz State, Western Illinois

What? Are you remotely familiar with WIU?

I really don't expect to see much change by 2026. Inertia is a very powerful force to overcome. While I think pondering realignment is a fun thing to do, I think schools need more reasons to make generational changes.

We'd have to fold up our football program in this scenario.

(10-30-2017 11:00 AM)ken d Wrote:  I really don't expect to see much change by 2026. Inertia is a very powerful force to overcome. While I think pondering realignment is a fun thing to do, I think schools need more reasons to make generational changes.

It will all depend on what kind of $$$ networks and/or streaming services are willing to throw at them.

If the pot is big enough, it would be a generational change on it's own. Money and what could be done with that money might outweigh "tradition" for at least some.

The SEC is the strongest magnet and they balloon with Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Iowa St, Florida St, Clemson, North Carolina St, and Virginia Tech. The SEC, at 24, feels like they're in good enough place.

The B1G responds with Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, and Miami. The PAC sees no means of sustainable growth and the AAU schools join the B1G. Notre Dame goes in as well. The B1G holds at an unreasonable 28.

Under the AAC banner, the 12 current members remain, the 5 ACC leftovers, the 4 XII leftovers, and BYU join with invites to Washington St, Oregon St, Arizona St, and Utah from the PAC as well as Colorado St, Air Force, Boise St, UNLV, and San Diego St from the MWC, and finally Army.

SEC
South: Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Florida, Florida St, South Carolina
North: Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina St, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
Central: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Missouri, Texas A&M
West: Iowa St, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, Texas Tech

B1G
West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington
Central: Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
North: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue
East: Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia

AAC
West: Arizona St, Boise St, BYU, Oregon St, San Diego St, UNLV, Utah, Washington St
Central: Air Force, Army, Colorado St, Kansas St, Navy, SMU, TCU, Tulsa
South: Baylor, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Tulane, South Florida
East: Boston College, Connecticut, East Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, Wake Forest, West Virginia

Through some restructuring, a new division forms within the NCAA and includes the SEC, B1G, AAC, Big East, and Atlantic 10. In place of Navy and Army non-football sports, the AAC includes Gonzaga, St. Mary's, and Wichita St. All other schools apply for membership and go through a screening process.

TV payouts bubble bursts, conferences only getting offered no more than half as much as previous contracts leads to several conferences splitting into smaller regional conferences instead of expanding.

First to split is the SEC East, which buys the conference name from the western schools. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, and South Carolina all split and invite Florida State and Clemson to join them. (Kentucky may choose to join some ACC schools, I'm not sure on them. Miami may join this conference as well)

New Southwest conference forms: Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.

Similar splits occur in Big Ten and ACC conferences. Pac 12 likely stays the same though.

The four Dakota schools and both Montana schools all move up to FBS.

UT-Arlington and UT-RGV both start football and quickly become FBS. Sam Houston St, Lamar, Stephen F Austin all move up to FBS as well.

Neither West Texas A&M nor Arkansas Tech move up to FBS.

I do think smaller conferences is as likely as bigger ones if the bubble bursts.

Texas makes a deal with the ACC similar to Notre Dame's.
Oklahoma and Kansas go to the SEC (Alabama and Auburn move to the East, Missouri moves to the West).
Big XII add Houston, Memphis and Cincinnati, is no longer considered a power conference.
AAC adds Rice.
C-USA and Sun Belt shed UTEP, ULM, FAU and FIU and then realign geographically.
UMass and ULM go back to FCS while Army, BYU, FAU, FIU, Liberty, NMSU and UTEP play as independents.

(10-30-2017 11:58 AM)zibby Wrote:  Texas makes a deal with the ACC similar to Notre Dame's.
Oklahoma and Kansas go to the SEC (Alabama and Auburn move to the East, Missouri moves to the West).
Big XII add Houston, Memphis and Cincinnati, is no longer considered a power conference.
AAC adds Rice.
C-USA and Sun Belt shed UTEP, ULM, FAU and FIU and then realign geographically.
UMass and ULM go back to FCS while Army, BYU, FAU, FIU, Liberty, NMSU and UTEP play as independents.

I have no inside info, but I think UMass is all in for football or we'll go the Vermont/BU/Northeastern route.

Either way the football stadium needs to be updated because we have graduations there.

(10-30-2017 11:22 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The SEC is the strongest magnet and they balloon with Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Iowa St, Florida St, Clemson, North Carolina St, and Virginia Tech. The SEC, at 24, feels like they're in good enough place.

The B1G responds with Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, and Miami. The PAC sees no means of sustainable growth and the AAU schools join the B1G. Notre Dame goes in as well. The B1G holds at an unreasonable 28.

Under the AAC banner, the 12 current members remain, the 5 ACC leftovers, the 4 XII leftovers, and BYU join with invites to Washington St, Oregon St, Arizona St, and Utah from the PAC as well as Colorado St, Air Force, Boise St, UNLV, and San Diego St from the MWC, and finally Army.

SEC
South: Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Florida, Florida St, South Carolina
North: Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina St, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
Central: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Missouri, Texas A&M
West: Iowa St, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, Texas Tech

B1G
West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington
Central: Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
North: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue
East: Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia

AAC
West: Arizona St, Boise St, BYU, Oregon St, San Diego St, UNLV, Utah, Washington St
Central: Air Force, Army, Colorado St, Kansas St, Navy, SMU, TCU, Tulsa
South: Baylor, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Tulane, South Florida
East: Boston College, Connecticut, East Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, Wake Forest, West Virginia

Through some restructuring, a new division forms within the NCAA and includes the SEC, B1G, AAC, Big East, and Atlantic 10. In place of Navy and Army non-football sports, the AAC includes Gonzaga, St. Mary's, and Wichita St. All other schools apply for membership and go through a screening process.

I would give a state 1 school so that no anti trust be thrown at them.

I would add:
Alaska
Hawaii
Montana
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
New Mexico
Delaware
URI
Stony Brook
New Hampshire
UMass.
Maine
Vermont

(10-30-2017 10:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  New CUSA: ULL, Arkansas State, La Tech, Rice, UNT, TXST, UTSA, Central Arkansas, Mizz State, Western Illinois

What? Are you remotely familiar with WIU?

Honestly I had run out of teams by the time I got to CUSA and just started through out names

(10-29-2017 09:26 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I find realignment threads to be the most fun by far. We all know it is likely that the CFB world will see a massive realignment in 2025, but what will it be?

Here's mine.

B1G: same 14 members
ACC: same 15 members
SEC: same 14 members

Pac-16
West: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA
East: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Big 12
West: Kansas, Kansas St., BYU, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Houston
East: UConn, Cincy, WVU, UCF, USF, Memphis, Iowa State

American
West: UAB, LaTech, WKU, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulane
East: East Carolina, Temple, FAU, FIU, MTSU, ODU

*Navy goes back to being independent and Wichita State moves to the A-10 in basketball.

Mountain West
West: Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico
East: Tulsa, UTEP, Rice, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming, Air Force

*San Jose State drops football due to financial concerns and California's anti-football agenda and joins the Big West

MAC: same 12 members

Sun Belt:
West: UTSA, North Texas, Texas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas State
East: Appalachian State, Troy, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

Indies: Notre Dame, Army, Navy, Liberty

Charlotte, UMass, and NMSU (and SJSU) give up and punt on football.
This would mean there would be 9 conferences and 126 schools.

How could we still be in the SBC after winning a National Title?

(10-30-2017 12:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 11:22 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The SEC is the strongest magnet and they balloon with Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Iowa St, Florida St, Clemson, North Carolina St, and Virginia Tech. The SEC, at 24, feels like they're in good enough place.

The B1G responds with Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, and Miami. The PAC sees no means of sustainable growth and the AAU schools join the B1G. Notre Dame goes in as well. The B1G holds at an unreasonable 28.

Under the AAC banner, the 12 current members remain, the 5 ACC leftovers, the 4 XII leftovers, and BYU join with invites to Washington St, Oregon St, Arizona St, and Utah from the PAC as well as Colorado St, Air Force, Boise St, UNLV, and San Diego St from the MWC, and finally Army.

SEC
South: Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Florida, Florida St, South Carolina
North: Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina St, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
Central: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Missouri, Texas A&M
West: Iowa St, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, Texas Tech

B1G
West: Arizona, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington
Central: Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
North: Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue
East: Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia

AAC
West: Arizona St, Boise St, BYU, Oregon St, San Diego St, UNLV, Utah, Washington St
Central: Air Force, Army, Colorado St, Kansas St, Navy, SMU, TCU, Tulsa
South: Baylor, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Tulane, South Florida
East: Boston College, Connecticut, East Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, Wake Forest, West Virginia

Through some restructuring, a new division forms within the NCAA and includes the SEC, B1G, AAC, Big East, and Atlantic 10. In place of Navy and Army non-football sports, the AAC includes Gonzaga, St. Mary's, and Wichita St. All other schools apply for membership and go through a screening process.

I would give a state 1 school so that no anti trust be thrown at them.

I would add:
Alaska
Hawaii
Montana
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
New Mexico
Delaware
URI
Stony Brook
New Hampshire
UMass.
Maine
Vermont

A couple of those are covered under the Atlantic 10. Antitrust isn't so much about intentionally including as it is intentionally excluding. I added the language in bold above as a way for other schools to apply and go through an application process to join the upper ranks. Granted, the process may be very stiff but it still gives a way.

The P5 undergoes a consolidation, where the top football programs in the country unite to form its own 24-team football league.

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
LSU
Miami
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Oregon
Penn State
Stanford
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
UCLA
USC
Washington
Wisconsin


With the top-24 off the board, conferences within football become smaller and associated by geography and program strength. For example, you could have a Northeast Conference that features Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Boston College, West Virginia, Maryland, Virginia, and Virginia Tech. You could also have a Midwestern Conference that has Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Missouri, Northwestern and Kansas.

For the new top-tiered division, every game during the season becomes a "power" game, which leads to increased fan interest and media distribution deals. For the new second-tiered-division, travel costs are significantly reduced from the creation of regional conferences for football-only, while still creating a very strong and impactful schedule.

(10-30-2017 12:54 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  New CUSA: ULL, Arkansas State, La Tech, Rice, UNT, TXST, UTSA, Central Arkansas, Mizz State, Western Illinois

What? Are you remotely familiar with WIU?

Honestly I had run out of teams by the time I got to CUSA and just started through out names

The first honest internet post of 2017.