(10-29-2017 02:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Assuming Memphis wins out, they will likely be about 15th in polls.

Would rather USF run the table to get the AAC title game here and play vs. a lesser ranked team or hope UCF runs the table, becomes a top 10 team, and have Memphis get a top 10 scalp on the road in the AAC title game?

I'm guessing we'd rather have it here...but beating UCF and then a P5 team would likely get Memphis top 5 in the nation at the end of the year.

This^^^
Personally, I'd like to play UCF at their place, win and then beat a P5 in a bowl but I hear ya...

I want to win out.
I want to be in the C game.
I want to be in the C game here.
I want to win the C game.
I want to play in the Peach.
I want to win the Peach.

That’s all I want

(10-30-2017 02:50 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  I want to win out.
I want to be in the C game.
I want to be in the C game here.
I want to win the C game.
I want to play in the Peach.
I want to win the Peach.

That’s all I want

Add: I want to keep our coach

3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

(10-30-2017 05:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Re-read #3. Then think about how that sentence would have to change to make what you are saying true. In fact, it is the whole reason #3 is there.

(10-30-2017 05:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

100% chance, and I mean 100% that you are wrong!!!

I think the playoff rankings might actually come out Saturday night or Sunday that weekend where the conferences play championship games.

Last season the playoff rankings came out on Sunday...the day after the championship games. I assume it will be the same this year and that those rankings will be used to determine the host.

Not according to the contract, they are not. If both teams are ranked and both win, whoever is the higher ranked team going into that week will be the host.

(10-30-2017 05:52 PM)3601 Wrote:  Last season the playoff rankings came out on Sunday...the day after the championship games. I assume it will be the same this year and that those rankings will be used to determine the host.

Never mind. We're talking the week before that.

(10-30-2017 05:53 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Not according to the contract, they are not. If both teams are ranked and both win, whoever is the higher ranked team going into that week will be the host.

Yep.

The site of the Championship Game is the home stadium of the division champion with the best overall conference record. In the event that the two division champions are tied, then the head-to-head record shall be used as the tiebreaker. If the two teams did not play, the following procedure is used to determine the host:[5]
College Football Playoff ranking, under the following conditions: If only one division champion is ranked entering the final week of conference play, it will host if it wins in that week. If that team loses, a composite of four computer rankings is used to determine the host.
If both division champions are ranked, the higher-ranked team that won in the final week will host. If, in this scenario, neither wins in the final week, the same computer ranking system is used.
If neither division champion is ranked, the aforementioned computer rankings are used.

If neither CFP nor computer rankings determine a host, the teams' records against common conference opponents are used.
If still tied, overall record determines the host.
Finally, a coin toss is held at the conference offices.

(10-30-2017 06:00 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:53 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Not according to the contract, they are not. If both teams are ranked and both win, whoever is the higher ranked team going into that week will be the host.

Yep.

The site of the Championship Game is the home stadium of the division champion with the best overall conference record. In the event that the two division champions are tied, then the head-to-head record shall be used as the tiebreaker. If the two teams did not play, the following procedure is used to determine the host:[5]
College Football Playoff ranking, under the following conditions: If only one division champion is ranked entering the final week of conference play, it will host if it wins in that week. If that team loses, a composite of four computer rankings is used to determine the host.
If both division champions are ranked, the higher-ranked team that won in the final week will host. If, in this scenario, neither wins in the final week, the same computer ranking system is used.
If neither division champion is ranked, the aforementioned computer rankings are used.

If neither CFP nor computer rankings determine a host, the teams' records against common conference opponents are used.
If still tied, overall record determines the host.
Finally, a coin toss is held at the conference offices.

Correct. So, if USF beats UCF on the final weekend, any bump they get from the next CP ranking will not be taken into account in determining the host (good for us). The prior week's rankings are used because the committee wont release the updated rankings until Tuesday, Nov 28th. Source

We definitely want to play at home so our best shot is USF winning the east

(10-30-2017 05:49 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

100% chance, and I mean 100% that you are wrong!!!

It doesn't seem possible that they play the whole season and don't make sure to get it right for home field, but they do. Crazy. Good for us.

(10-31-2017 08:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:49 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:57 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  3. If both teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the host.

So if USF beats UCF it comes down to which team the committee ranks higher. They could jump us in that scenario. Well that is certainly not what I expected but thanks!

No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

100% chance, and I mean 100% that you are wrong!!!

It doesn't seem possible that they play the whole season and don't make sure to get it right for home field, but they do. Crazy. Good for us.

So it's not a 0.00000% chance?

(10-30-2017 12:53 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Is the record tie-breaker conference only or overall?

Because, we'd be 10-1 and USF would be 11-1, overall.

Actually, USF had their game vs. UMass cancelled. They only have an 11 game schedule, too.

I would bet tie breaker would be comittee rankings

(10-31-2017 10:41 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 08:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:49 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  No, because the home field will be determined the next day (or THAT day) that UCF and USF play, and the new CFP rankings won't come out until the following Tuesday. So everything I have seen so far is that the previous week's rankings will have to be used.

Zero chance and by that I mean 0.00000% chance that the last game will not be counted in the rankings to determine home field.

100% chance, and I mean 100% that you are wrong!!!

It doesn't seem possible that they play the whole season and don't make sure to get it right for home field, but they do. Crazy. Good for us.

So it's not a 0.00000% chance?

Glad you asked because I'm not clear on where that chance came from either.

As for the OP...it all comes down to risk, reward, goals. If your ultimate goal is the highest ranked Tigers team ever, then go for the toughest path (@ UCF). My goal would be the access bowl, and let the rankings take care of themselves. So I would go for USF at home.