taking an early look at the aac next year...we could have an even better year next year

"on paper" should be better

--ucf is having an amazing year, most of their best players are sophmores/juniors (if coach returns, and they run the table, their will be title talks in 2018)

--smu is having a great year, almost all their star players are sopmores and juniors ..again coach is the big question

--navy will have a back to back qb for the first time in years and their second best offensive players also returns

-- Houston just played a 4star qb, 4star wr, an all-state RB, who are all sophmores, for the first time this season and they knocked off undefeated usf on their first game ...and has numerous espn 300 who are sitting out this season for numerous reasons (transfer/ academic reasons)

-- Tulane is having a decent year, literally EVERYONE on their offense besides the RBs are coming back

-- Tulsa- most players returning..super young team will now have experience..will atleast be better

-- Cincy- will likley finish with the best recruiting class in the g5, still need to find a QB. get a qb, maybe a juco grad transfer and they could drastically improve

-- temple is actually very young on defense for a "defensive" team (5 total seniors, in defensive 2 deep)

likely worse

-- usf- usf is actually a very youthful team, few seniors but rely so much on flowers, who is unique.. and strong didnt develop flowers..no clue how usf will look with a strong built system (will still be a bowl quality team)

--memphis- miller and Ferguson both graduated on a team that has a bad defense and heavily relies on Ferguson and miller ..if they lose norvell, they might be horrible. if norvell stays, he built a system and the drop wont be much (still a bowl caliber team)

- ecu- relying on grad transfer on a rebuilding team and then sucking has its down fall, all the players you just added leaves

who knows?

- will uconn be better year 2? who knows..need to find a qb firstt

I love these threads.

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  taking an early look at the aac next year...we could have an even better year next year

"on paper" should be better

--ucf is having an amazing year, most of their best players are sophmores/juniors (if coach returns, and they run the table, their will be title talks in 2018)

--smu is having a great year, almost all their star players are sopmores and juniors ..again coach is the big question

--navy will have a back to back qb for the first time in years and their second best offensive players also returns

-- Houston just played a 4star qb, 4star wr, an all-state RB, who are all sophmores, for the first time this season and they knocked off undefeated usf on their first game ...and has numerous espn 300 who are sitting out this season for numerous reasons (transfer/ academic reasons)

-- Tulane is having a decent year, literally EVERYONE on their offense besides the RBs are coming back

-- Tulsa- most players returning..super young team will now have experience..will atleast be better

-- Cincy- will likley finish with the best recruiting class in the g5, still need to find a QB. get a qb, maybe a juco grad transfer and they could drastically improve

-- temple is actually very young on defense for a "defensive" team (5 total seniors, in defensive 2 deep)

likely worse

-- usf- usf is actually a very youthful team, few seniors but rely so much on flowers, who is unique.. and strong didnt develop flowers..no clue how usf will look with a strong built system (will still be a bowl quality team)

--memphis- miller and Ferguson both graduated on a team that has a bad defense and heavily relies on Ferguson and miller ..if they lose norvell, they might be horrible. if norvell stays, he built a system and the drop wont be much (still a bowl caliber team)

- ecu- relying on grad transfer on a rebuilding team and then sucking has its down fall, all the players you just added leaves

who knows?

- will uconn be better year 2? who knows..need to find a qb firstt

we heard this before except the names were fuente and lynch

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love these threads.

why? it makes you realize how much you hate your conference?

(10-28-2017 09:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love these threads.

why? it makes you realize how much you hate your conference?

Ha! Because it is October of 2017!

If coaching openings come open at both Florida and Nebraska, the chances Scott Frost is coaching at UCF next year is nil.

(10-28-2017 10:13 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love these threads.

why? it makes you realize how much you hate your conference?

Ha! Because it is October of 2017!

we are 3/4th of the way through the season ...we know what soph and juniors were good... sdsu fans were hyping pennys 2017 season at this point last season

(10-28-2017 10:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 10:13 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love these threads.

why? it makes you realize how much you hate your conference?

Ha! Because it is October of 2017!

we are 3/4th of the way through the season ...we know what soph and juniors were good... sdsu fans were hyping pennys 2017 season at this point last season

Ha, I think we were more concerned with DP's record chase, and winning the conference at the time.

Anyway, these threads are funny.So many things can happen in between now, and August of 2018. Plus, you are not truly doing analysis. What about the two deep? What about Punters and Kickers? What about schedules that are different? There are dozens are variables, its comical.

The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

(10-28-2017 10:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

I think ucf checks in at top 15 and memphis top 20 with iowa state ahead of both cfp rankings are usually quite different than AP. Usf wont be ranked

Also it might speed up the playoff expansion if ND wins out and gets in the playoffs... only 3 of 5 p5s in the playoff would really get the money mad.

(10-28-2017 11:10 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 10:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

I think ucf checks in at top 15 and memphis top 20 with iowa state ahead of both cfp rankings are usually quite different than AP. Usf wont be ranked

Also it might speed up the playoff expansion if ND wins out and gets in the playoffs... only 3 of 5 p5s in the playoff would really get the money mad.

That's a really good point.

(10-28-2017 10:56 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 10:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 10:13 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:59 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love these threads.

why? it makes you realize how much you hate your conference?

Ha! Because it is October of 2017!

we are 3/4th of the way through the season ...we know what soph and juniors were good... sdsu fans were hyping pennys 2017 season at this point last season

Ha, I think we were more concerned with DP's record chase, and winning the conference at the time.

Anyway, these threads are funny.So many things can happen in between now, and August of 2018. Plus, you are not truly doing analysis. What about the two deep? What about Punters and Kickers? What about schedules that are different? There are dozens are variables, its comical.

"we were more concerned with DP's record chase, and winning the conference "
at the same time heard on numerous forums how penny "was actually your better back" and how you were getting the access bowl in 2017..you were hyping up 2017 in your 2016 season, i heard that numerous places (and im certain you had too)

"There are dozens are variables"
now that whats too early to decide..im simply going by the talent returning similar to sdsu with penny

ucf's qb is true soph, top rb is a true soph, #2 rb is junior...only 1 senior among top 6 WR

smu's qb is a sophomore, top 2 rbs are sophomore (3rd is a junior), top 3 WR are junior or sophomores (1 is expected to enter the draft tho)

10 of the 11 tulane starters on offense are coming back next year

5 total seniors, in temples defensive 2 deep (22 players) a defensive team

all those teams are trending up...

i dont want to hype houston to much because it was only 1 game, but houston top qb, top wr and top rb vs usf were all true sophomore, 2 of 3 4star (this was all their first game playing) and houston adds 2 elite dline to add to ED next year who are currently sitting our for either transfer rules or needing 1 more high school class. houston on paper next year might have the best assembled g5 dline ever
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHYNokwUAAACFSn.jpg

(10-28-2017 10:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

sdsu has 2 losses one was a blowout..sdsu isnt getting ranked....

if you remove toledos blowout loss to miami, their schedule has been worse the usfs besides that 1 game

(10-28-2017 11:34 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 10:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  The nuanced observer will note all of this, and we "should" start the year with some T25 teams. But key to that is finishing this season strong, and I saw a couple of cracks today. UConn and USF. UConn because it would have been nice to at least look respectable against a 2-win SEC team, and USF because I fear they will be dropped out of the first rankings next Tuesday. Really, I wonder if the committee will just put UCF, Memphis, Toledo, and SDSU in at 21, 22, 23, and 24 respectively almost as a separate ranking (Like, just remove the 2 in front and that is the Access Spot ranking), TOTALLY disregarding our strength of conference schedules.
Our last hope is Navy beating ND. And the hope I'm speaking of is getting to the end of the season with 4 teams ranked so we can start the next year with some conference respect.

sdsu has 2 losses one was a blowout..sdsu isnt getting ranked....

if you remove toledos blowout loss to miami, their schedule has been worse the usfs besides that 1 game

As I said, the nuanced observer will know all of this. My fear is that the CFP committee will do what I said above because they are not interested in the nuances of anything not "P5".

pesik got his swagger back

Boy if ECU can be worse than this I'll be the one who wants to die LOL

(10-29-2017 12:45 AM)Kronke Wrote:  pesik got his swagger back

Brings a tear to my eye, I thought we'd lost him

(10-28-2017 09:53 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  taking an early look at the aac next year...we could have an even better year next year

"on paper" should be better

--ucf is having an amazing year, most of their best players are sophmores/juniors (if coach returns, and they run the table, their will be title talks in 2018)

--smu is having a great year, almost all their star players are sopmores and juniors ..again coach is the big question

--navy will have a back to back qb for the first time in years and their second best offensive players also returns

-- Houston just played a 4star qb, 4star wr, an all-state RB, who are all sophmores, for the first time this season and they knocked off undefeated usf on their first game ...and has numerous espn 300 who are sitting out this season for numerous reasons (transfer/ academic reasons)

-- Tulane is having a decent year, literally EVERYONE on their offense besides the RBs are coming back

-- Tulsa- most players returning..super young team will now have experience..will atleast be better

-- Cincy- will likley finish with the best recruiting class in the g5, still need to find a QB. get a qb, maybe a juco grad transfer and they could drastically improve

-- temple is actually very young on defense for a "defensive" team (5 total seniors, in defensive 2 deep)

likely worse

-- usf- usf is actually a very youthful team, few seniors but rely so much on flowers, who is unique.. and strong didnt develop flowers..no clue how usf will look with a strong built system (will still be a bowl quality team)

--memphis- miller and Ferguson both graduated on a team that has a bad defense and heavily relies on Ferguson and miller ..if they lose norvell, they might be horrible. if norvell stays, he built a system and the drop wont be much (still a bowl caliber team)

- ecu- relying on grad transfer on a rebuilding team and then sucking has its down fall, all the players you just added leaves

who knows?

- will uconn be better year 2? who knows..need to find a qb firstt

we heard this before except the names were fuente and lynch

Yep. Pesik just doesn’t know anything about our team.

UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

(10-29-2017 07:02 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  UCF brings back most every key play maker on offense. Just have to replace some good seniors on defense but with the way we are recruiting I have no concerns about that.

Next year could actually be when the offense REALLY clicks

You guys should be fun to watch