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It makes me sick to watch our QB in the shotgun formation on 4th and 1. How many times did we do that? At least make the defense think you are going to sneak it.
10-28-2017 08:48 PM
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Especially with our O-Line getting stood up each time. Pathetic.
10-28-2017 08:52 PM
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(10-28-2017 08:52 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Especially with our O-Line getting stood up each time. Pathetic.

Amen brother ! Pathetic.
10-28-2017 09:13 PM
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Bobby blamed SW on one of them. I don't agree. Why not just call the play for him to fake the handoff and run the f$cking ball. Geeeez. I blame the coaches for bad calls. Period.
10-28-2017 09:16 PM
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If you can't get 1 yard against a pathetic defense like NT, then you shouldn't be on the field. That was just a disgusting display of execution, play calling, and just not gutting it out. Plain and simple, the Mean Green DL just wanted it more than our 300+ slow, ineffective, and tired looking OL. We got beat in the trenches and it doesn't help when the DBs are playing so soft that 6-10 yards is a handout.
10-28-2017 09:46 PM
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(10-28-2017 09:16 PM)RoanokeMonarch Wrote:  Bobby blamed SW on one of them. I don't agree. Why not just call the play for him to fake the handoff and run the f$cking ball. Geeeez. I blame the coaches for bad calls. Period.

The play calling, on both sides of the ball is killing this team. It defies logic.
Example #1. 4th and 1 and we throw a quick out to Melvin Vaughn. We threw the longest pass we could throw to a point 3 yards downfield, to our biggest body receiver, instead of having him position his body on an inside route which would have required a shorter throw.

Example #2. If your strength on defense is the defensive line, this should afford you more tight coverage of the receivers. Instead we play so soft and never attempt to upset their passing routes.

Example #3. The most difficult pass pattern to cover is a crossing route. Yet we never seem to run crossing routes. Nor do we find spots in a zone to sit down and look for the ball. Every pattern seems to require our QB to hit a moving target.


Kudos to the staff on the 2-point conversion though. That was a well designed play.
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2017 08:55 AM by The Flagship.)
10-29-2017 08:53 AM
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I never understood why we don't have just 5 plays with the QB under center for those 4th and 1 plays. You give the defense an extra 4 yards to react to a handoff. I just don't get it.
10-29-2017 09:54 AM
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(10-29-2017 09:54 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I never understood why we don't have just 5 plays with the QB under center for those 4th and 1 plays. You give the defense an extra 4 yards to react to a handoff. I just don't get it.

Well said.
10-29-2017 10:13 AM
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We arent an under center team either way. But, the shotgun formation allows QB to see what defense is doing and allows for the run/pass option as well as the ability for the QB to hold on to ball and run. The actual handoff point between under center and shotgun isnt a 4 yard difference.

I havent seen studies in college, but in the NFL running in shotgun short down situations is 6% more successful than running under center with significantly higher yards per play.
10-29-2017 10:20 AM
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(10-29-2017 09:54 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I never understood why we don't have just 5 plays with the QB under center for those 4th and 1 plays. You give the defense an extra 4 yards to react to a handoff. I just don't get it.

There are advantages to shotgun snaps on short yardage plays. Even on a QB sneak where the QB can read the blocking (Tebow?).
There are advantages to being under center too. It's a wash. Execution is the key either way.
10-29-2017 11:50 AM
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