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CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
Ohio State just came back to beat Penn State. Meanwhile, Iowa State is surging in the Big 12 is now is tied for first. And there is Oklahoma, who beat Ohio State early in the season. Notre Dame taking care of its business.

How much of a factor will Michigan State now play from here on?
10-28-2017 06:23 PM
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CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
Not much, Northwestern beat them, also TCU lost.


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Well based on last season, Penn State should be ranked higher than Ohio State despite losing on the road by a close margin. Penn State won all their games thus far, and all their non-conference games and should be ranked ahead of Ohio State who was coming off a bye week, at home, and only won by one. That's the precedent that the committee laid out last year and if they don't want to be hypocritical then they'll continue it again this year. Lucky for OSU, the Big Ten may get two teams in this year.
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No way should the over rated Big 10 get 2 teams in, Alabama, Clemson, OSU and Georgia if things stay the same. TCU messed up theirs and Big 12 chances, UW is only one with a chance out of PAC. Then their is Norte Dame. Of course, this could all get blown up next week.


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Alabama has played nobody in non-conference play. If they lose, they'll be in the same position as Penn State at the moment. The SEC and Big Ten have a great shot to get two schools in whether or not you believe they are overrated.
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(10-29-2017 01:05 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  No way should the over rated Big 10 get 2 teams in, Alabama, Clemson, OSU and Georgia if things stay the same. TCU messed up theirs and Big 12 chances, UW is only one with a chance out of PAC. Then their is Norte Dame. Of course, this could all get blown up next week.


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Big 12 is definitely not out of the picture yet. Oklahoma has a OOC win on the road at Ohio State and their loss to Iowa State no longer looks that bad.

OUs next two games are against teams currently ranked in the top 10/12 (depending on the poll) and if the Sooners win both of those they will be sitting in a good position.

Of course, I don't necessarily expect that to happen because the Big 12 has a history of eating itself up. That is what happens when you actually play everyone in your conference. You don't get to miss all the top conference teams like Wisconsin does in the Big 10 (and that comment is coming from a Wisconsin fan).
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(10-30-2017 07:59 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 01:05 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  No way should the over rated Big 10 get 2 teams in, Alabama, Clemson, OSU and Georgia if things stay the same. TCU messed up theirs and Big 12 chances, UW is only one with a chance out of PAC. Then their is Norte Dame. Of course, this could all get blown up next week.


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Big 12 is definitely not out of the picture yet. Oklahoma has a OOC win on the road at Ohio State and their loss to Iowa State no longer looks that bad.

OUs next two games are against teams currently ranked in the top 10/12 (depending on the poll) and if the Sooners win both of those they will be sitting in a good position.

Of course, I don't necessarily expect that to happen because the Big 12 has a history of eating itself up. That is what happens when you actually play everyone in your conference. You don't get to miss all the top conference teams like Wisconsin does in the Big 10 (and that comment is coming from a Wisconsin fan).

I think the XII is in control of their own destiny.

OU has a quality win against tOSU, and a quality loss to ISU
TCU has quality wins over OSU & WVU, and a quality loss against ISU

OKST's resume isn't that great, but a win over OU would help.

The only way they aren't in is if ISU wins the conference. Losses against TX & Iowa aren't going to get it done.

As for the whole Wisconsin has a weak schedule, I don't recall people squawking last year when they played tOSU, Michigan, and LSU.

You play the schedule given and win the games you're supposed to win, that's all you can do. Not to mention, it isn't their fault that BYU, Nebraska, Iowa, and Minnesota are down this year. Normally that would be a decent schedule.

Who gets in depends on the SEC championship game (everything being equal and teams staying on course). Georgia wins and ND is in. Bama blows Georgia out, ND is in. Bama squeaks by and I think the other 3 will boil down these.....

ND
Georgia
B1G winner
XII winner (unless it's ISU)
Clemson (if ISU wins the XII)
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(10-30-2017 08:54 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 07:59 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 01:05 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  No way should the over rated Big 10 get 2 teams in, Alabama, Clemson, OSU and Georgia if things stay the same. TCU messed up theirs and Big 12 chances, UW is only one with a chance out of PAC. Then their is Norte Dame. Of course, this could all get blown up next week.


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Big 12 is definitely not out of the picture yet. Oklahoma has a OOC win on the road at Ohio State and their loss to Iowa State no longer looks that bad.

OUs next two games are against teams currently ranked in the top 10/12 (depending on the poll) and if the Sooners win both of those they will be sitting in a good position.

Of course, I don't necessarily expect that to happen because the Big 12 has a history of eating itself up. That is what happens when you actually play everyone in your conference. You don't get to miss all the top conference teams like Wisconsin does in the Big 10 (and that comment is coming from a Wisconsin fan).

I think the XII is in control of their own destiny.

OU has a quality win against tOSU, and a quality loss to ISU
TCU has quality wins over OSU & WVU, and a quality loss against ISU

OKST's resume isn't that great, but a win over OU would help.

The only way they aren't in is if ISU wins the conference. Losses against TX & Iowa aren't going to get it done.

As for the whole Wisconsin has a weak schedule, I don't recall people squawking last year when they played tOSU, Michigan, and LSU.

You play the schedule given and win the games you're supposed to win, that's all you can do. Not to mention, it isn't their fault that BYU, Nebraska, Iowa, and Minnesota are down this year. Normally that would be a decent schedule.


Who gets in depends on the SEC championship game (everything being equal and teams staying on course). Georgia wins and ND is in. Bama blows Georgia out, ND is in. Bama squeaks by and I think the other 3 will boil down these.....

ND
Georgia
B1G winner
XII winner (unless it's ISU)
Clemson (if ISU wins the XII)

Well yeah, people weren't squawking last year because those 3 games are all better opponents than anyone Wisconsin will face in the regular season this year. It isn't Wisconsin's fault, just the unfortunate reality of the extremely unbalanced Big 10 divisions. BYU is just really unfortunate timing, certainly when Wisconsin scheduled that game you figure the Cougars would be a top 35 type team.

Sure Nebraska and Iowa are typically a bit better than they are this year, but since the Big 10 went to this divisional line up Wisconsin has been the only consistent strong team in the West.

Going undefeated is hard against just about any schedule and if Wisconsin does that, which would include a signature win in the Big 10 title game then they are absolutely going to get in the playoffs.
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
Playoffs:
Bama
Georgia
ND
B1G Champ

PAC, ACC, and Big 12 scream bloody murder for an expansion to 8 teams for the playoffs.
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(10-30-2017 08:54 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 07:59 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 01:05 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  No way should the over rated Big 10 get 2 teams in, Alabama, Clemson, OSU and Georgia if things stay the same. TCU messed up theirs and Big 12 chances, UW is only one with a chance out of PAC. Then their is Norte Dame. Of course, this could all get blown up next week.


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Big 12 is definitely not out of the picture yet. Oklahoma has a OOC win on the road at Ohio State and their loss to Iowa State no longer looks that bad.

OUs next two games are against teams currently ranked in the top 10/12 (depending on the poll) and if the Sooners win both of those they will be sitting in a good position.

Of course, I don't necessarily expect that to happen because the Big 12 has a history of eating itself up. That is what happens when you actually play everyone in your conference. You don't get to miss all the top conference teams like Wisconsin does in the Big 10 (and that comment is coming from a Wisconsin fan).

I think the XII is in control of their own destiny.

OU has a quality win against tOSU, and a quality loss to ISU
TCU has quality wins over OSU & WVU, and a quality loss against ISU

OKST's resume isn't that great, but a win over OU would help.

The only way they aren't in is if ISU wins the conference. Losses against TX & Iowa aren't going to get it done.

As for the whole Wisconsin has a weak schedule, I don't recall people squawking last year when they played tOSU, Michigan, and LSU.

You play the schedule given and win the games you're supposed to win, that's all you can do. Not to mention, it isn't their fault that BYU, Nebraska, Iowa, and Minnesota are down this year. Normally that would be a decent schedule.

Who gets in depends on the SEC championship game (everything being equal and teams staying on course). Georgia wins and ND is in. Bama blows Georgia out, ND is in. Bama squeaks by and I think the other 3 will boil down these.....

ND
Georgia
B1G winner
XII winner (unless it's ISU)
Clemson (if ISU wins the XII)

The Big 12 has an issue that nobody is addressing. Yes OU defeated OSU in Columbus, and T.C.U. beat a woeful Arkansas squad, but outside of that they have an abysmal record against OOC opponents. That little fact could yet prove to be their undoing.
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