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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
A perfect storm to force a discussion on changes? One the one hand you have a conference champion who has two losses but on the other you have a non champion with just one loss who would use the same argument that because the first team had the benefit of being a one-loss non champion over a two-loss champion last year that they, too, should have the same benefit regardless.

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12-03-2017 01:49 AM
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
The committee is in a conundrum. It is obvious that Clemson and Oklahoma are locks. Georgia is probably a lock.

Does the committee penalize Auburn for their loss to Georgia, a team they already stomped in the season? They would have three losses which would be a first but they also were ranked #2 prior to the loss.

Is Alabama the last in after being ranked 5th and having two teams lose ahead of them? I don't really care for their schedule. They are getting way too much credit for beating Florida State who just gave up on their season after that loss. It's hard to determine how well they would have done with their starting quarterback for the whole season but they are a P5 king in a recruiting jackpot who should have had capable replacements.

USC is a conference winner, though unimpressive and likely the worst P5 conference. Still, an argument can be made.

In my mind, I think the last spot comes down to Alabama, Auburn, and Ohio State. We may have a result like back in the very first playoff where Auburn's win over Alabama eliminates the Crimson Tide so Ohio State being a two-loss conference champion elevates them above a three-loss non-champion. Back in the first playoff, Baylor, TCU, and Ohio State were fighting over the last pick and it resulted in OSU's since Baylor beat TCU in the season and eliminated them but had a horrible OOC schedule and propelled OSU ahead.

People are going really hard on OSU for the loss to Iowa. Iowa is a good program, finished 7-5, and has a coach that has been there for a long time while winning conference championships and NY6 bowls. Nobody is giving Auburn crap for losing to LSU who lost to Troy.

I'm torn on what I want to happen. On one hand, I don't want the Big Ten shut out of the playoffs for the first time, and I don't want the SEC to have two participants. On the other hand, revenge is a dish best served cold and Ohio State can suck it for taking Penn State's spot last year.
12-03-2017 10:07 AM
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
(12-03-2017 01:49 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  A perfect storm to force a discussion on changes? One the one hand you have a conference champion who has two losses but on the other you have a non champion with just one loss who would use the same argument that because the first team had the benefit of being a one-loss non champion over a two-loss champion last year that they, too, should have the same benefit regardless.

God help us!

U have a 2 loss champ with a blow out loss to a mediocre school. They should not be considered. Like the Pac 12, B10 does not deserve a bid this year.
There will not be an 8 team playoff until this contract is up.
Ga, Clemson, Ok ., and Ala.
12-03-2017 10:18 AM
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
(12-03-2017 10:18 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 01:49 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  A perfect storm to force a discussion on changes? One the one hand you have a conference champion who has two losses but on the other you have a non champion with just one loss who would use the same argument that because the first team had the benefit of being a one-loss non champion over a two-loss champion last year that they, too, should have the same benefit regardless.

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U have a 2 loss champ with a blow out loss to a mediocre school. They should not be considered. Like the Pac 12, B10 does not deserve a bid this year.
There will not be an 8 team playoff until this contract is up.
Ga, Clemson, Ok ., and Ala.

I don’t think Bama deserved a bid either, they didn’t play anyone worth noting except who they lost to.
12-04-2017 09:48 AM
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
I agree the foundation was laid last year when Ohio State got in ahead of Penn State. The CFP has already devalued conference championships too much, IMO. The only way to fix that may be auto bids for the P5 champs.
12-04-2017 01:47 PM
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RE: CFP Just Got A Lot More Complicated
You also need the committee to be made up of equal representation from each of the P5 leagues. This is whether it remains a 4 team playoff or goes to a 8 team playoff where only the 5 conference champions are guaranteed a spot.

I would actually prefer a playoffs where each league received a playoff birth for every 4 or 5 teams it has, and the choices are made strictly by the conference standings. You wouldn't have teams getting overlooked due to tv ratings and bias and you would encourage great non-conference games because it would prepare teams for the conference season.
12-04-2017 02:58 PM
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