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RE: 2017-2018 Bubas Cup standings - Completed Sports
The GS fans saying they are down three sports so they can’t win is laughable.

UTA is down four sports and missed the Bubas Cup championship by two points twice in four years.

You guys could compete if you wanted. However, winning in the Olympic sports just isn’t a priority, so you guys finish in the bottom half.
12-15-2017 01:40 PM
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(12-15-2017 01:40 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  The GS fans saying they are down three sports so they can’t win is laughable.

UTA is down four sports and missed the Bubas Cup championship by two points twice in four years.

You guys could compete if you wanted. However, winning in the Olympic sports just isn’t a priority, so you guys finish in the bottom half.

Hard to argue that point. Though it does depend which sports a school does not sponsor as to how many points are left on the table. But overall you observation is correct.
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(12-15-2017 05:04 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  
(12-15-2017 01:40 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  The GS fans saying they are down three sports so they can’t win is laughable.

UTA is down four sports and missed the Bubas Cup championship by two points twice in four years.

You guys could compete if you wanted. However, winning in the Olympic sports just isn’t a priority, so you guys finish in the bottom half.

Hard to argue that point. Though it does depend which sports a school does not sponsor as to how many points are left on the table. But overall you observation is correct.
Using championship numbers
UTA - 4 sports (w/12 FB teams) leaves 39 points (w/10 FB teams - 37)
GS - 3 sports leaves 28

adding WGolf to UTA they leave 27 (using 10 FB teams)
Kind of a wash.
12-15-2017 05:17 PM
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RE: 2017-2018 Bubas Cup standings - Completed Sports
I posted this on my thread about Bubas points as well, but since this thread is getting more traction at present I'll post here as well.

No points updated this week and that will be the case until SB basketball starts at the end of December.

But I did add some more stats to the Sports by Season page. Some numbers to see how a school is doing that is not sponsoring all the sports. I am now computing points earned as a percent of Bubas Cup points possible for all sports and just those that a school sponsors. This should be very interesting to see how things turn out for schools that don't sponsor all 18 SB sports. In some cases, things look better and in some cases the schools are still not, shall we shall - shinning.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0

Earlier, I was trying to be diplomatic to some GaSo fans, and I still am, but looking at the numbers of points earned compared to what could be earned and factoring out the sports GaSo is not sponsoring then it is still not looking good. GaSo has earned about 34% of the points it could earn. Some schools are pushing almost 74%, and again factoring out the sports not sponsored.
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1. Texas State (60)
2. South Alabama (58)
3. Arkansas State (55.5)
4. Appalachian State (55)
5. Coastal Carolina (44)
6. Louisiana (40)
7. Troy (39)
8. Texas-Arlington (38)
9. Georgia State (30.5)
10. Little Rock (20.5)
11. Georgia Southern (19)
12. ULM (17.5)

Little Rock (women) and Louisiana (men) have pretty much locked up the top points in basketball and can make it official this week. Regular season ends next weekend then the conference tournaments end on the 11th. It'll be interesting to see how many teams tie in each sport.
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The reason we have men’s outdoor but not indoor is a title IX decision
02-22-2018 05:58 AM
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(02-22-2018 05:58 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  The reason we have men’s outdoor but not indoor is a title IX decision

Which makes no sense to me as it is the same scholly I thought. The expenses of running ITF is not zero but I don't see how it makes that big of a difference in money spent on men vs women sports. I know there are a few issues one must address with Title IX, but I always thought this an odd way to go about it.
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It may be 1 scholarship but a women’s track person counts as 2- 1 for indoor and 1 for outdoor

In fact if she does cross country she counts in your total 3 times if she competes x-country indoor and outdoor
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(02-22-2018 03:50 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  It may be 1 scholarship but a women’s track person counts as 2- 1 for indoor and 1 for outdoor

In fact if she does cross country she counts in your total 3 times if she competes x-country indoor and outdoor

Which still makes no sense. We have both teams, all using the same athletes for all 3. Of course, we don't have men's soccer or tennis, W Riffle or W swimming and diving either.

How competitive are the Rifle and swim team...no disparaging, just asking.
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(02-22-2018 04:24 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(02-22-2018 03:50 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  It may be 1 scholarship but a women’s track person counts as 2- 1 for indoor and 1 for outdoor

In fact if she does cross country she counts in your total 3 times if she competes x-country indoor and outdoor

Which still makes no sense. We have both teams, all using the same athletes for all 3. Of course, we don't have men's soccer or tennis, W Riffle or W swimming and diving either.

How competitive are the Rifle and swim team...no disparaging, just asking.


Not to get to deep in the weeds but let’s say we should should be trying to meet prong I of title IX which is proportionality

If your university is 52 % women 48%
You should try to have the same in your participation- not scholarships but participants

For instance I’m pretty sure you guys carry 100-110 on your football roster- that is the number you use for title IX not 85

Women’s hoops you might carry 16-18 kids to bump up that number for practice

A women’s cross country athlete that does all 3 counts 1 time on each roster regardless of the fact that she is on 1 scholarship
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