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More like 1800
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(10-30-2017 01:52 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  I was surprised the announcer did'nt introduce the players. Kinda Mickey Mouse.
(10-29-2017 10:39 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Can anyone identify the players in the bottom photo?

Didn't?
I wasn't paying close attention, while I maneuvered for the best angle I could find for the picture.
The dead-ball timeout may not have been long enough to get in that many names, with applause.
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I think I saw myself sitting on the upper west deck.
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I went through the letterman's list to see if I can figure out any others. The guy on the left might be Jason Richards? The third guy is familiar - I know he played in 1996 but I can't remember his name. The bigger guy in the Rice jersey could be Marc Gwyn? That might be Will Ford on the right. I don't think I'd recognize Kevin Joseph or Jesse Kurtz-Nicholl but are either of them in there?
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The guy on the right is NOT Will Ford. Maybe Hunter Brown?

The beard makes it tough for the guy on the left. If not Jason Richards, maybe JJ (blanking on last name, played OF).
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As to the attendance, I have heard that the way the Athletic Department inflates these numbers is to have IMG buy fake tickets that are not ever used. Of course, Rice is really paying for them by reducing the amount IMG owes Rice. That my friends is the only way we meet the NCAA minimum attendance requirements for Division 1 and where these fake numbers come from. I bet we don't have 1000 season ticket holders anymore. Someone should ask the AD for the exact number or season tickets and how many tickets IMG is buying with the ad money that could be going to sports we might actually be good at. A great use of money IMO.
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(10-30-2017 09:05 PM)interwebowl Wrote:  As to the attendance, I have heard that the way the Athletic Department inflates these numbers is to have IMG buy fake tickets that are not ever used. Of course, Rice is really paying for them by reducing the amount IMG owes Rice. That my friends is the only way we meet the NCAA minimum attendance requirements for Division 1 and where these fake numbers come from. I bet we don't have 1000 season ticket holders anymore. Someone should ask the AD for the exact number or season tickets and how many tickets IMG is buying with the ad money that could be going to sports we might actually be good at. A great use of money IMO.

You would lose that bet, and by a very wide margin.
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(10-29-2017 10:39 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Can anyone identify the players in the bottom photo?


JJ Savarino, Lance Berkman, Rob Kligman, Tim McLaughlin,
Joseph Cathey, Scott Brown, Matt Lorenz, Adam Herndon, Coach Graham

(thx to Alan's RUBPA post)
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(10-29-2017 06:42 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:34 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 10:51 PM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Bob I usually respect the heck out of your insights but where did you get those numbers? I'm not aware of the breakdown but it sure doesn't look like the second deck is anywhere close to being twice as large as the bottom deck. In fact, I'd guess the lower deck has slightly more seats.
Google Construction Rice Stadium 1950. On page 2 find Rice University: An Architectural Tour

I watched them build the stadium and that's always what they said about the capacity. Of course that hasn't mattered for years.

If i recall, the two upper decks have 15k each with the lower at 40. With both endzones out and the concrete non-seats in the lower, i can see how there might be only 17k in the lower bowl, which i think has less rows than the upper. And the wings of the upper go all the way to the tarped endzones. So with all that any estimates of actual attendance?

Bob's figures are the same ones I had always heard quoted. The difference in HRS vs the Cotton Bowl was that the Cotton Bowl upper decks held 12500 each and the lower bowl 45,000. Both stadiums were listed as 70,000. The bleachers on the concourse at each end of the stadium (before the Owl Club was built) held 1000 each to get to the max 72,000.

Luckily, Ticketmaster has a seat map for the lower bowls, and I have a little time to count.

East Stands (8,768 total seats)
3 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, and 4 rows of 20 seats in the chairbacks (1,256)
2 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, 2 rows of 24 seats, and 2 rows of 16 seats (1,256)
2 sections (on the end, angled) of 1,238 seats
1 additional row on concourse of 12 seats

West Stands (8,193 total seats)
5 sections of 32 rows of 28 seats, and 12 rows of 20 seats (1,136)
1 section (northern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 10 rows of 20 and 2 rows of 6 (1,009)
1 section (southern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 12 rows of 20 (1,036)
a bunch of different sized upper reserved (468)

Total lower bowl capacity is 16,961, per ticket seats offered.
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(11-01-2017 09:14 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:42 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:34 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 10:51 PM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 09:51 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Bob I usually respect the heck out of your insights but where did you get those numbers? I'm not aware of the breakdown but it sure doesn't look like the second deck is anywhere close to being twice as large as the bottom deck. In fact, I'd guess the lower deck has slightly more seats.
Google Construction Rice Stadium 1950. On page 2 find Rice University: An Architectural Tour

I watched them build the stadium and that's always what they said about the capacity. Of course that hasn't mattered for years.

If i recall, the two upper decks have 15k each with the lower at 40. With both endzones out and the concrete non-seats in the lower, i can see how there might be only 17k in the lower bowl, which i think has less rows than the upper. And the wings of the upper go all the way to the tarped endzones. So with all that any estimates of actual attendance?

Bob's figures are the same ones I had always heard quoted. The difference in HRS vs the Cotton Bowl was that the Cotton Bowl upper decks held 12500 each and the lower bowl 45,000. Both stadiums were listed as 70,000. The bleachers on the concourse at each end of the stadium (before the Owl Club was built) held 1000 each to get to the max 72,000.

Luckily, Ticketmaster has a seat map for the lower bowls, and I have a little time to count.

East Stands (8,768 total seats)
3 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, and 4 rows of 20 seats in the chairbacks (1,256)
2 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, 2 rows of 24 seats, and 2 rows of 16 seats (1,256)
2 sections (on the end, angled) of 1,238 seats
1 additional row on concourse of 12 seats

West Stands (8,193 total seats)
5 sections of 32 rows of 28 seats, and 12 rows of 20 seats (1,136)
1 section (northern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 10 rows of 20 and 2 rows of 6 (1,009)
1 section (southern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 12 rows of 20 (1,036)
a bunch of different sized upper reserved (468)

Total lower bowl capacity is 16,961, per ticket seats offered.

Are you subtracting the 2013 C-USA Champions tarp-covered-seats that keeps our students from sitting behind the visiting team's bench?
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(11-01-2017 09:21 AM)Grungy Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 09:14 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:42 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:34 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 10:51 PM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  Google Construction Rice Stadium 1950. On page 2 find Rice University: An Architectural Tour

I watched them build the stadium and that's always what they said about the capacity. Of course that hasn't mattered for years.

If i recall, the two upper decks have 15k each with the lower at 40. With both endzones out and the concrete non-seats in the lower, i can see how there might be only 17k in the lower bowl, which i think has less rows than the upper. And the wings of the upper go all the way to the tarped endzones. So with all that any estimates of actual attendance?

Bob's figures are the same ones I had always heard quoted. The difference in HRS vs the Cotton Bowl was that the Cotton Bowl upper decks held 12500 each and the lower bowl 45,000. Both stadiums were listed as 70,000. The bleachers on the concourse at each end of the stadium (before the Owl Club was built) held 1000 each to get to the max 72,000.

Luckily, Ticketmaster has a seat map for the lower bowls, and I have a little time to count.

East Stands (8,768 total seats)
3 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, and 4 rows of 20 seats in the chairbacks (1,256)
2 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, 2 rows of 24 seats, and 2 rows of 16 seats (1,256)
2 sections (on the end, angled) of 1,238 seats
1 additional row on concourse of 12 seats

West Stands (8,193 total seats)
5 sections of 32 rows of 28 seats, and 12 rows of 20 seats (1,136)
1 section (northern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 10 rows of 20 and 2 rows of 6 (1,009)
1 section (southern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 12 rows of 20 (1,036)
a bunch of different sized upper reserved (468)

Total lower bowl capacity is 16,961, per ticket seats offered.

Are you subtracting the 2013 C-USA Champions tarp-covered-seats that keeps our students from sitting behind the visiting team's bench?

Actually, no. Probably a good idea. But they don't show where that is. So when that tarp becomes old and faded, they can remove it and start selling the seats again.

But what are the odds that they're selling those seats to themselves, part of the headcount? Looks like 12 rows of about 20 seats each. Maybe they even count the whole row. So between 240 and 336 seats sold outright.

BTW, I'm now curious - is that tarp still there when outside games (like HS football) are played there? Or is it only out for Rice games?
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(11-01-2017 09:52 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 09:21 AM)Grungy Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 09:14 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:42 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 06:34 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  If i recall, the two upper decks have 15k each with the lower at 40. With both endzones out and the concrete non-seats in the lower, i can see how there might be only 17k in the lower bowl, which i think has less rows than the upper. And the wings of the upper go all the way to the tarped endzones. So with all that any estimates of actual attendance?

Bob's figures are the same ones I had always heard quoted. The difference in HRS vs the Cotton Bowl was that the Cotton Bowl upper decks held 12500 each and the lower bowl 45,000. Both stadiums were listed as 70,000. The bleachers on the concourse at each end of the stadium (before the Owl Club was built) held 1000 each to get to the max 72,000.

Luckily, Ticketmaster has a seat map for the lower bowls, and I have a little time to count.

East Stands (8,768 total seats)
3 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, and 4 rows of 20 seats in the chairbacks (1,256)
2 sections with 42 rows of 28 seats, 2 rows of 24 seats, and 2 rows of 16 seats (1,256)
2 sections (on the end, angled) of 1,238 seats
1 additional row on concourse of 12 seats

West Stands (8,193 total seats)
5 sections of 32 rows of 28 seats, and 12 rows of 20 seats (1,136)
1 section (northern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 10 rows of 20 and 2 rows of 6 (1,009)
1 section (southern most), with 32 rows angling out, then 12 rows of 20 (1,036)
a bunch of different sized upper reserved (468)

Total lower bowl capacity is 16,961, per ticket seats offered.

Are you subtracting the 2013 C-USA Champions tarp-covered-seats that keeps our students from sitting behind the visiting team's bench?

Actually, no. Probably a good idea. But they don't show where that is. So when that tarp becomes old and faded, they can remove it and start selling the seats again.

But what are the odds that they're selling those seats to themselves, part of the headcount? Looks like 12 rows of about 20 seats each. Maybe they even count the whole row. So between 240 and 336 seats sold outright.

BTW, I'm now curious - is that tarp still there when outside games (like HS football) are played there? Or is it only out for Rice games?

I've heard that The MOB's conducting stand stays where it is during high school playoff games, and that the tarp may remain there as well.

The tarp will be replaced when they wish to change the message, as they are never going to allow students to sit that close to the bench again.
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