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RE: CFB today with an 8-team playoff
I’d go for an 11 team playoff

P5 CCG winners go into QF

P5 CCG losers go into R1 with best G5 team

Some P5 may wish to chose their second team, if they have 1 very powerful division

Also ACC will need some agreement with Norte Dame
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RE: CFB today with an 8-team playoff
(10-27-2017 10:24 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  Not agreeing or disagreeing, but was just curious how each seed has done.

2 seeds are the best seed so far. 4 seeds are the second best record so far, thanks to Ohio State in 2014. However, 1/2 seeds have represented all but one final slot.

1 seeds: 2-3
2 seeds: 5-1, 2 champions
3 seeds: 0-3
4 seeds: 2-2, 1 champion

1/2 seeds: 7-4, 2 champions
3/4 seeds: 2-5, 1 champion

This is another positive of the 8-team system I'm proposing. The seeds currently mean nothing. It's a neutral site...all 4 teams are VERY comparable. The mentality is basically "Get into the playoffs and then all bets are off!"

With an 8-team system, the top seeds mean a ton. The debate last season, for example, wouldn't have been "does OSU get in the playoff?" but "Will OSU earn a first-round home game?" Some teams, granted, would still be just fighting for berth...USC, Florida State, OKSt, Colorado, the Big Ten title game loser...but the home game would be a level of intrigue currently missing!!!
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RE: CFB today with an 8-team playoff
not really sure that the seeds don't mean anything. I mean in rd 1, the top 2 seeds are 5-1 with 5 blowout wins. I mean the 2/3 games have had mov of 39 38 and 31 points. That's a huge gulf. the 2 seeds are on a 103-0 run currently on the 3 seeds. The 1 seeds have outscored the 4 seeds last 2 years 61-24. with neither one close at all. So I just think to say that seeds are meaningless is a joke.
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RE: CFB today with an 8-team playoff
(10-27-2017 01:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  8 teams really is ideal

First round the third Saturday in December at home fields
semifinals and finals like they are now

5 conference champs get in
minimum of one G5
undefeated teams get priority to host first round (even if that means a Notre Dame or Alabama playing @USF)

It would never happen, but it would be perfect.

I agree with this. This is the best way to do it. I think it would be awesome to see a place like Clemson or Alabama host a playoff game. Could you imagine Ohio State or LSU playing each other in Columbus. Those would be awesome games and awesome tv ratings. You also have several American teams if undefeated that can easily handle a home game in the first round. Houston, ECU, USF, UCF, Memphis, Cincinnati (place would be rocking).
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(10-27-2017 09:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  dude losing teams in the playoffs are NOT going to play in any meaningless bowl game. I see this all the time and just LOL at it. You know last year what happened with LSU and Stanford with Fournette and McCaffery not playing in their bowl games? Think that times 10.

I dunno. You could say that all non-CFP bowls are meaningless then.

They already are.
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(10-28-2017 07:56 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  dude losing teams in the playoffs are NOT going to play in any meaningless bowl game. I see this all the time and just LOL at it. You know last year what happened with LSU and Stanford with Fournette and McCaffery not playing in their bowl games? Think that times 10.

I dunno. You could say that all non-CFP bowls are meaningless then.

They already are.

Exactly. I understand that we're not going to see every superstar in the "New Year's Seven" bowl games that aren't part of the playoff. I understand that the losing quarterfinal teams are not going to be highly motivated. I understand that fan bases will not travel as well (they already traveled to a CCG city [probably], they may have ponied up the money for a quarterfinal game...PLUS the incentive of winning a national title is gone). I get it.

But with the money and excitement at stake for the sport overall, it doesn't matter! Bowls NEVER meant anything, at least not in the past 20 years. And when they did, the system was asinine. Three or four different bowl games that will determine whom VOTERS will choose was the best team?!?!?

I look at the theoretical bowl games from last year (in the original post) and think that looks better than anything I remember seeing on New Year's Day or Eve in the previous 20 years...simply because there is a consolidation of the top teams (plus two of the games are actual PLAYOFFS which matter more than bowls ever did before!!!). Only 1 top-15 team got left out of the New Year's Seven bowls in my original post. That means you have great teams matched up well across two exciting days of CFB!
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(10-28-2017 08:59 AM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:56 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  dude losing teams in the playoffs are NOT going to play in any meaningless bowl game. I see this all the time and just LOL at it. You know last year what happened with LSU and Stanford with Fournette and McCaffery not playing in their bowl games? Think that times 10.

I dunno. You could say that all non-CFP bowls are meaningless then.

They already are.

Exactly. I understand that we're not going to see every superstar in the "New Year's Seven" bowl games that aren't part of the playoff. I understand that the losing quarterfinal teams are not going to be highly motivated. I understand that fan bases will not travel as well (they already traveled to a CCG city [probably], they may have ponied up the money for a quarterfinal game...PLUS the incentive of winning a national title is gone). I get it.

But with the money and excitement at stake for the sport overall, it doesn't matter! Bowls NEVER meant anything, at least not in the past 20 years. And when they did, the system was asinine. Three or four different bowl games that will determine whom VOTERS will choose was the best team?!?!?

I look at the theoretical bowl games from last year (in the original post) and think that looks better than anything I remember seeing on New Year's Day or Eve in the previous 20 years...simply because there is a consolidation of the top teams (plus two of the games are actual PLAYOFFS which matter more than bowls ever did before!!!). Only 1 top-15 team got left out of the New Year's Seven bowls in my original post. That means you have great teams matched up well across two exciting days of CFB!

No you don't understand. Any player from the losing teams who has pro prospects would not play in the bowl game. Alabama loses in the QF but goes to a bowl? They'd have 10+ guys who don't play in that game.
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(10-27-2017 08:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:05 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Why should a team like Alabama this year have to play three additional games to prove they are number 1 ?

Why should the 16-0 New England Patriots have to play three additional games to prove they are Super Bowl champions?

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They shouldn't have to.
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(10-28-2017 03:06 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 08:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:05 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Why should a team like Alabama this year have to play three additional games to prove they are number 1 ?

Why should the 16-0 New England Patriots have to play three additional games to prove they are Super Bowl champions?

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They shouldn't have to.

Why play any games at all? They already know they're the best team out there. They shouldn't have to even play the regular season to prove that.
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RE: CFB today with an 8-team playoff
(10-28-2017 05:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 03:06 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 08:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:05 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Why should a team like Alabama this year have to play three additional games to prove they are number 1 ?

Why should the 16-0 New England Patriots have to play three additional games to prove they are Super Bowl champions?

07-coffee3

They shouldn't have to.

Why play any games at all? They already know they're the best team out there. They shouldn't have to even play the regular season to prove that.

The other teams don't know that. Look there is no need to be absurd. I just said I do not think a team as dominant as Bama for 12 games should have to play 3 also rans to win the NC.
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