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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
Suppose SMU beats both Memphis and UCF, and USF also loses to Houston. Would that open some doors for others. Suppose Memphis loses to SMU, then still wins AAC against a 1 loss USF/UCF. Probably won't happen, but then you have a 2 loss Memphis as AAC rep.
10-26-2017 12:53 PM
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
Thing is, we're pretty close with the AAC where there won't be any chances for them to not get it...

If USF wins next game they have left before UCF UConn and Tulsa....
If UCF wins next FBS game they have left before USF Uconn and Temple

Memphis has SMU left- but outside of that it's Tulane, Tulsa, and ECU

If it's 10-1 Memphis vs really even 1 loss either way USF/UCF- it's going to be the AAC- and not be close.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
I don't know about AAC standings but one of them would have to not win the conference for another conference champ to step in.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
IT is the AAC's to lose at this moment.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
It'll get interesting if it's a 2 loss AAC champ vs a 1 loss Toledo or Marshall, neither of whom have fantastic resumes and won't have beaten a world beater in their respective CCG.

A 2 loss USF -- perhaps Marshall looks better, perhaps not. A 2 loss Memphis would probably get the nod.
10-26-2017 01:09 PM
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
(10-26-2017 01:09 PM)megadrone Wrote:  It'll get interesting if it's a 2 loss AAC champ vs a 1 loss Toledo or Marshall, neither of whom have fantastic resumes and won't have beaten a world beater in their respective CCG.

A 2 loss USF -- perhaps Marshall looks better, perhaps not. A 2 loss Memphis would probably get the nod.

the problem is that on the East side- if UCF and USF win their next FBS game- they'll both enter that final game with 0-1 loss, meaning if they win head to head and the CCG they have 1 loss.

On the West side Memphis really has 1 tough game left.

For AAC to not get it realistically, Memphis would have to lose that 1 tough game, and then win the CCG.
10-26-2017 01:14 PM
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
(10-26-2017 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-26-2017 01:09 PM)megadrone Wrote:  It'll get interesting if it's a 2 loss AAC champ vs a 1 loss Toledo or Marshall, neither of whom have fantastic resumes and won't have beaten a world beater in their respective CCG.

A 2 loss USF -- perhaps Marshall looks better, perhaps not. A 2 loss Memphis would probably get the nod.

the problem is that on the East side- if UCF and USF win their next FBS game- they'll both enter that final game with 0-1 loss, meaning if they win head to head and the CCG they have 1 loss.

On the West side Memphis really has 1 tough game left.

For AAC to not get it realistically, Memphis would have to lose that 1 tough game, and then win the CCG.

And if that does happen, Memphis' overall body of work probably looks better than the likely MAC, CUSA and MW champions, and they would still get the bid.

It's a tougher guess if USF has 2 losses. That would mean that both USF and UCF collapsed but USF won the conference. With a weak OOC slate, maybe Marhshall, Toledo or Fresno look as good or better.
10-26-2017 01:25 PM
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
(10-26-2017 01:25 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(10-26-2017 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-26-2017 01:09 PM)megadrone Wrote:  It'll get interesting if it's a 2 loss AAC champ vs a 1 loss Toledo or Marshall, neither of whom have fantastic resumes and won't have beaten a world beater in their respective CCG.

A 2 loss USF -- perhaps Marshall looks better, perhaps not. A 2 loss Memphis would probably get the nod.

the problem is that on the East side- if UCF and USF win their next FBS game- they'll both enter that final game with 0-1 loss, meaning if they win head to head and the CCG they have 1 loss.

On the West side Memphis really has 1 tough game left.

For AAC to not get it realistically, Memphis would have to lose that 1 tough game, and then win the CCG.

And if that does happen, Memphis' overall body of work probably looks better than the likely MAC, CUSA and MW champions, and they would still get the bid.

It's a tougher guess if USF has 2 losses. That would mean that both USF and UCF collapsed but USF won the conference. With a weak OOC slate, maybe Marhshall, Toledo or Fresno look as good or better.

For USF to win with 2 losses- they would have to lose to both Houston and then either UConn or Tulsa. And UCF would have to lose to one of SMU, UConn,or Temple, and then USF.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
It will typically always be the AAC's to lose. Top-to-bottom they are a better conference than the other non-power conferences. They have four schools that were in the Big East (Connecticut, Temple, Cincinnati, South Florida) and most of their schools are in major media markets in the Eastern and Central Time Zones which make recruiting, getting televised games, and attracting people in general (fans, students, etc.) a lot easier. On top of that, they historic and recent basketball powerhouses which draw in a lot.

Compare that to my favorite conference (Mountain West) and its a different story. Boise St is a recognizable name with all games on ESPN. San Diego St, New Mexico, and UNLV give a little credibility to basketball, but not much anymore. Outside of that, the conference is kind of blah lately. The losses of Utah, BYU, and TCU really hurt. The markets are okay (San Diego, SFBA, Las Vegas) but not much to write home about. The conference's best hope is to prove it on the field/court which hasn't happened much lately. It is what it is. The AAC is on its way up and the MWC is on a very slow path down.

I think a shift in realignment in the next 5-10 years will allow a few MWC schools to find a more recognizable home while leave the conference name to the remaining members.
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RE: NY6 bowl...AAC's to lose?
I haven't run the numbers, but is there a possible scenario when the NY6 bowl slot goes to an AAC team that does not win the AAC Championship?
10-26-2017 01:41 PM
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