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RE: Presbyterian Football in trouble? (may drop, go Pioneer
We played down there in our first year and I would hate to see this happen. It's a nice little town, decent tailgate area, and hey the Scotsman statue is pretty cool.
10-27-2017 02:44 PM
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It would hinder the ability for their programs to schedule FBS bodybag games, but the Big South should seriously consider going the NEC limited-scholarship route, or even going all-out nonscholarship. That might be enough to keep Presby in the fold while giving Davidson, Jacksonville and Stetson a more geographically friendly option than the Pioneer.
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(10-27-2017 03:35 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  It would hinder the ability for their programs to schedule FBS bodybag games, but the Big South should seriously consider going the NEC limited-scholarship route, or even going all-out nonscholarship. That might be enough to keep Presby in the fold while giving Davidson, Jacksonville and Stetson a more geographically friendly option than the Pioneer.

Maybe the solution to keep Big South football afloat is to either to not require scholarships (potentially pulling Jacksonville and Stetson in the process) or splitting into a scholarship and non-scholarship divisions.
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RE: Presbyterian Football in trouble? (may drop, go Pioneer
(10-26-2017 12:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUP did mentioned that they would like to go to D1 one day.

I love the visual here. I've written a screenplay about it....

INT COFFEE SHOP - NIGHT

IUP, a pretty young school in the PSAC opens the door to a hip coffee shop furnished in vintage French Industrial Farmhouse Style. IUP's blouse is torn, revealing a plain football jersey. She sees her on-again, off-again vegan lover, California University of Pennsylvania, who now goes by CUP.

CUP: "The PSAC needs you to be strong, IUP. You may doubt that the PSAC hears you, but we love you."

IUP gently touches CUP's shoulder pads....

IUP: "I'd like to go D1 one day."






FIN
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Wow, this could turn the Big South (for football) into the Big East and WAC circa 2011, where they're constantly trying to get new members to join while existing members are looking to get out. Seriously, if you're Charleston Southern, incoming football member Campbell, Gardner Webb, or any other football member, are you not clawing like crazy to escape to the CAA, SoCon, or even the OVC?
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(10-27-2017 07:22 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Wow, this could turn the Big South (for football) into the Big East and WAC circa 2011, where they're constantly trying to get new members to join while existing members are looking to get out. Seriously, if you're Charleston Southern, incoming football member Campbell, Gardner Webb, or any other football member, are you not clawing like crazy to escape to the CAA, SoCon, or even the OVC?

The Big South could just take over the southern half of the Pioneer League which is transcontinental anyway. It just needs six teams.

Charleston Southern, Campbell and GW have probably tried to escape for years to the Southern but to no avail. Liberty is still a member as they have no other conference option, yet.

VMI should go back to the Big South and all would be well.

The nonfb side can take in more schools, like Lincoln Memorial, which has been pawning for a DI invite.
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(10-25-2017 10:25 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(10-25-2017 07:35 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Presbyterian just should drop football and add Men's Lacrosse

That would make a lot of sense. But enrollment probably needs no-scholarship fb more.

Wofford just up I-26 a bit from Presbyterian has barely more enrollment but almost double the endowment. Wofford is leading the Southern as this is written.

Stayed in Clinton one might and took a driving tour of the campus. It was more impressive that I would have thought.

I feel like they had lacrosse, didn't they?
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Presbyterian has women's lax, but doesn't currently have men's lax.
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With liberty and coastal gone would anyone in the Big south really care if the scholly rules got more relaxed?
10-28-2017 02:22 PM
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(10-28-2017 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote:  With liberty and coastal gone would anyone in the Big south really care if the scholly rules got more relaxed?


A-Sun schools may not like it. They want to have the advantage to have the scholarships at the same levels because KSU and UNA could move in the future to another conference. With those 2 in the mixed, Jacksonville and Stetson should go scholarship as well. Lets not forget High Point do want to add football in the future as well. Winthrop should have green lighted the addition of football.
Lipscomb, UNF and FGCU of the Asun have been thinking of adding football as well.
Longwood and Radford do have club teams. Maybe the Big South could sway the schools to turned the club teams to Pioneer League teams then join the Big South in the future for all sports.
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