Just Wow!! This is insane and a sad state of affairs...it is only a game...

Florida coach Jim McElwain has led the program to consecutive SEC East titles, but things have taken a scary turn in Gainesville. A 3-3 (3-2 SEC) record, consecutive home losses in tight games to LSU and Texas A&M, and the program's worst start since 2014 has seemingly sent some fans over the edge. McElwain said during his Monday press conference that he and his family, his coaches and his players have received death threats as a result of the struggles.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...3-3-start/

The threats are evil and uncalled for, of course, but Florida should just fire McElwain right now. It's obvious he's no brighter than Muschamp was.

How on earth did an elite program like Florida end up with McElwain and Muschamp? It's mind-boggling ...

Counter point - when you make 4.25 million dollars a year as a state employee this is going to happen. I highly doubt it was more than 2-3, just throw them in the trash or hang up and get on with it. You don't think Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer or Paul Ryan get many times more death threats?

This is McElwain trying to deflect from his teams struggles and gain sympathy, nothing more.

(10-23-2017 02:40 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Counter point - when you make 4.25 million dollars a year as a state employee this is going to happen. I highly doubt it was more than 2-3, just throw them in the trash or hang up and get on with it. You don't think Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer or Paul Ryan get many times more death threats?

This is McElwain trying to deflect from his teams struggles and gain sympathy, nothing more.

Even if that is true, making $4 million a year doesn't mean you or your players or family should be subjected to death threats, which sadly, given our present society of violence, have to be taken seriously.

Some people take it all far too seriously.

(10-23-2017 02:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The threats are evil and uncalled for, of course, but Florida should just fire McElwain right now. It's obvious he's no brighter than Muschamp was.

How on earth did an elite program like Florida end up with McElwain and Muschamp? It's mind-boggling ...

Muschamp was HCIW at Texas. He was hardly thought to be a dud.

Florida hired a coach who only had one winning season at Colorado State that was spectacular.

In hindsight, Florida should have fired Muschamp following the 4-8 campaign in 2013. Charlie Strong was coming off the 12-1 season at UL and would have been the perfect fit in Gainesville.

(10-23-2017 02:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The threats are evil and uncalled for, of course, but Florida should just fire McElwain right now. It's obvious he's no brighter than Muschamp was.

How on earth did an elite program like Florida end up with McElwain and Muschamp? It's mind-boggling ...

Maybe they should fire the A.D.!

I heard the interview about the threats. It was vague. I'm not saying they didn't get them, but I am suggesting that McElwain is hyping them as cover for his lousy performance. Sumlin had a legitimate reason because his were specific and aimed at his family. But he got good press cover at the time and that makes me suspicious about McElwain's claims. Coaches, players, judges, mayors, preachers, teachers, policemen, etc, have long been recipients of these crank letters.

These types of moronic things have long been around. It's usually unhinged fans that send anonymous letters. Almost every coach gets them. They are usually obscene and angry and mostly mean nothing. But I'm not surprised that they offend and concern the nanny staters.

The standard operating procedure for years was to ignore them unless threats were specific, in which case the police usually got involved. To acknowledge them publicly is to give the dip who wrote them satisfaction. But then common sense is trumped by sensationalism today. It's part of our national cult of victimization these days.

How did any of these people survive their elementary school playgrounds?

And Quo, both worked with Saban. That's why Florida hired them. This stuff happened exactly the same way in the 70's when any D.O.B. was hired by an SEC school (Disciple of Bear). We wound up with a downturn in SEC performance because with few exceptions the D.O.B.'s made lousy head coaches. So here we are in 2017 and the D.O.S.'s with the possible exception of Smart are making lousy hires as well.

(10-23-2017 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 02:40 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Counter point - when you make 4.25 million dollars a year as a state employee this is going to happen. I highly doubt it was more than 2-3, just throw them in the trash or hang up and get on with it. You don't think Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer or Paul Ryan get many times more death threats?

This is McElwain trying to deflect from his teams struggles and gain sympathy, nothing more.

Even if that is true, making $4 million a year doesn't mean you or your players or family should be subjected to death threats, which sadly, given our present society of violence, have to be taken seriously.

Our society has always been violent Quo! We had government officials who fought Duels in the 1800's. We have had gang violence since the earliest days. We have always suffered from it. In the 1920's it was organized crime from prohibition which grew into the mafia and remained overtly, and publicly, violent through the 40's.

In the 1932 rioters were run down in the streets by Douglas MacArthur and his mounted troops, and the so called rioters were suffering veterans of WWI who were protesting failed pensions and care.

When labor unions came to the forefront at the turn of the century it was because their efforts were met with violence paid for by their employers.

We've always had murderers, rapists, lunatics, and anonymous threats. Today's world only seems more violent because of 24/7 news coverage and acts caught on cell phones.

I'm not justifying or condoning it, but absolutely nothing has changed about human nature since Cain slew Abel. And if the Children of Israel had been provided with stationery and a post office Moses would have received death threats.

My dad once told me when I received some, "Well son you're doing something right, or they wouldn't be so pissed!" "Anyone who ever accomplished anything has been threatened at one time or another."

All of this hand wringing and hysterical reaction just tells me how mentally unprepared we are as a nation to meet a real threat.

The fact is Quo that life is so violent that nobody gets out of it alive! Something is always threatening and attacking you whether it is a virus, a cancer cell, or a thug with a knife, a job being shipped overseas, a ticked off spouse, or a poorly trained local cop, or the latest imbecile ruling North Korea. So we can either live in fear, or accept it and get own with our lives while being fully alert and aware and hopefully prepared. But I assure you that something out there is going to eventually get you. And the most likely suspect is still going to be a Pizzeria or Hamburger joint.

(10-23-2017 02:40 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Counter point - when you make 4.25 million dollars a year as a state employee this is going to happen. I highly doubt it was more than 2-3, just throw them in the trash or hang up and get on with it. You don't think Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer or Paul Ryan get many times more death threats?

This is McElwain trying to deflect from his teams struggles and gain sympathy, nothing more.

(10-24-2017 09:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Florida hired a coach who only had one winning season at Colorado State that was spectacular.

Florida ran into the old "flavor of the month" issue.

McElwain was the flavor of the month when they hired him because of that one good season and a program that was perceived to be on the way "up".

I never understood that thinking. I don't know why power programs from power conferences act like they're a MAC team when it comes to looking for a coach.

You're freeking Florida, (usually) a powerhouse in one of the 2 best conferences in the nation. You're in a recruiting hotbed. You should be above hiring the flavor of the month, the best should be WANTING to coach there.

I am not sure these threats were in fact real based off of the UF statement......... in fact, it is quite a bizarre statement. I doubt he lasts the season.

“The University Athletic Association takes the safety of our student-athletes, coaches, staff and families very seriously,” UF’s Athletics Association spokesman Steve McClain said in a statement. “Our administration met with Coach McElwain this afternoon and he offered no additional details.”

(10-23-2017 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 02:40 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Counter point - when you make 4.25 million dollars a year as a state employee this is going to happen. I highly doubt it was more than 2-3, just throw them in the trash or hang up and get on with it. You don't think Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer or Paul Ryan get many times more death threats?

This is McElwain trying to deflect from his teams struggles and gain sympathy, nothing more.

Even if that is true, making $4 million a year doesn't mean you or your players or family should be subjected to death threats, which sadly, given our present society of violence, have to be taken seriously.

Of course they shouldn't. But when you're that high profile you need to be mature enough to deal with it.

I highly, highly doubt there were more than 1 or 2 legitimate death threats at any point over the last three years. There's a reason he didn't turn anything over to authorities - he's largely making it up.

I'm sure he gets a "u suck" or "sharks don't like u" on twitter all the time but those aren't death threats.

(10-24-2017 09:34 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  In hindsight, Florida should have fired Muschamp following the 4-8 campaign in 2013. Charlie Strong was coming off the 12-1 season at UL and would have been the perfect fit in Gainesville.

In all honesty, Florida probably should've just stuck it out with Muschamp.

Would've been 8-5 the last year there without that Idaho game being cancelled and still would've won the East the last two years. The current team would have a better defense than they do now and Muschamp wouldn't have run off Will Grier.

Glad its worked out the way it has though because I doubt anyone was capable of putting together the staff at SC that Muschamp has.

I am just hoping Scott Frost stays at UCF to be available whenever McElwain is fired. Hopefully sooner rather than later.