With the loss of the Ponsettia and teams becoming available early. Could it be possibly for a no APR bowl season?

20 five teams enter Week Nine. Only one match up from the list below. Five win Navy &, WMU on bye Week 9

Power 5
ACC – UVA, Louisville
Big 12 – ISU, WVU
B!G – Mich
P12 – Stanford, Az
SEC – Kentucky, SC, Tx A&M, Miss State



G5
American – Navy, SMU
CUSA – WKU, Southern Miss
MAC – NIU, WMU
MWC – Boise, Fresno
SB – Troy, App

Bowl Eligible Teams Week Nine (26) Updated (37)

Power 5 (18)
ACC – CLEMSON, NCSU, Miami, VT
Big 12 – TCU, OU, OSU
B!G – OSU, PSU, WIS, MSU
P12 – Wash, WSU, USC, Stanfor
SEC – BAMA, UGA, Auburn, LSU

Independents
ND, Army

G5 (8)
American – USF, UCF, Memphis
CUSA – Marshall
MAC – Ohio, Toledo, NIU
MWC – CSU, SDSU,

Eliminated (8) Updated (9)
UNC
Baylor
Charlotte
UTEP
BYU
Bowling Green
Nevada
San Jose St
Tulsa

um 28 are eligible. 18+8+2 indy

(10-22-2017 09:06 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  With the loss of the Ponsettia and teams becoming available early. Could it be possibly for a no APR bowl season?

20 five teams enter Week Nine. Only one match up from the list below, Texas A&M vs Miss St. Five win Navy &, WMU on bye Week 9

Power 5
ACC – UVA, Louisville
Big 12 – ISU, WVU
B!G – , Mich,
P12 – Stanford, Az
SEC – Kentucky, SC, Tx A&M



G5
American – Navy, SMU
CUSA – WKU, Southern Miss
MAC – NIU, WMU
MWC – Boise, Fresno
SB – Troy, App

Bowl Eligible Teams Week Nine (28)

Power 5 (18)
ACC – CLEMSON, NCSU, Miami, VT
Big 12 – TCU, OU, OSU
B!G – OSU, PSU, WIS, MSU
P12 – Wash, WSU, USC
SEC – BAMA, UGA, Auburn, LSU

Independents (2)
ND, Army

G5 (8)
American – USF, UCF, Memphis
CUSA – Marshall
MAC – Ohio, Toledo
MWC – CSU, SDSU

Eliminated (8)
UNC
Baylor
Charlotte
UTEP
BYU
Bowling Green
Nevada
San Jose St

(10-22-2017 09:08 AM)stever20 Wrote:  um 28 are eligible. 18+8+2 indy

Those darn Independents get me every time.

Games for 5 win teams next week
UVA @ Pitt
Louisville @ Wake
TCU vs ISU
Ok State vs WVU
Rutgers vs Mich
Stanford @ Or St
Wash St vs Az
Kentucky Vs Tenn
SC @ Tx A&M
Navy - Bye
Tulsa vs SMU
FAU vs WKU
UAB vs Southern Miss
EMU vs NIU
WMU - Bye
Boise @ USU
UNLV vs Fresno
Ga South vs Troy
App @ Umass

(10-22-2017 10:29 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Games for 5 win teams next week
UVA @ Pitt
Louisville @ Wake
TCU vs ISU
Ok State vs WVU
Rutgers vs Mich
Stanford @ Or St
Wash St vs Az
Kentucky Vs Tenn
SC @ Tx A&M
Navy - Bye
Tulsa vs SMU
FAU vs WKU
UAB vs Southern Miss
EMU vs NIU
WMU - Bye
Boise @ USU
UNLV vs Fresno
Ga South vs Troy
App @ Umass

SC/A&M was a few weeks ago. South Carolina hosts Vanderbilt this week.

(10-22-2017 10:29 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Games for 5 win teams next week
UVA @ Pitt
Louisville @ Wake
TCU vs ISU
Ok State vs WVU
Rutgers vs Mich
Stanford @ Or St
Wash St vs Az
Kentucky Vs Tenn
SC @ Tx A&M
Navy - Bye
Tulsa vs SMU
FAU vs WKU
UAB vs Southern Miss
EMU vs NIU
WMU - Bye
Boise @ USU
UNLV vs Fresno
Ga South vs Troy
App @ Umass

I believe Mississippi St plays @Texas A&M this week, while South Carolina hosts Vandy.

(10-22-2017 09:06 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  With the loss of the Ponsettia and teams becoming available early. Could it be possibly for a no APR bowl season?

As Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!"

Barring upsets this weekend, we could have 10 more teams already ineligible after Week 9 than we had at the same point last season. There are going to be a lot of teams in the 5-6 win group this year. It's going down to the wire again.

(10-23-2017 10:54 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:06 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  With the loss of the Ponsettia and teams becoming available early. Could it be possibly for a no APR bowl season?

As Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!"

Barring upsets this weekend, we could have 10 more teams already ineligible after Week 9 than we had at the same point last season. There are going to be a lot of teams in the 5-6 win group this year. It's going down to the wire again.

but more teams overall AND 2 fewer slots..

right now we have 28 eligible. Another 20 have 5 wins. 25 have 4 wins. So 73 teams are between 0-2 wins away from being bowl eligible. So that's not bad. Only need 78. Only have 35 teams with 5 or more losses.

I think something we're seeing is more truly dreadful teams. We have 15 teams with 0 or 1 win. Last year at this point- didn't have a single winless team and we had 8 1 loss teams. So that helps out considerably. So I think we're probably end of the year going to see fewer 4-8 and 3-9 teams and more 2-10 and 1-11 teams. That helps in making teams bowl eligible.

Yep, the likelihood of 5-7 teams being invited to bowls this year is growing by the week and is an almost certainty

Does a team like FSU get a break due to the hurricane cancellations ? There likely record at this point will be 5-6. I believe the game they missed was UL Monroe. So they most likely would have been 6-6 if not for cancellation. Do 5-6 teams get in over 5-7 teams are are they all on the same APR list?

(10-23-2017 11:23 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Does a team like FSU get a break due to the hurricane cancellations ? There likely record at this point will be 5-6. I believe the game they missed was UL Monroe. So they most likely would have been 6-6 if not for cancellation. Do 5-6 teams get in over 5-7 teams are are they all on the same APR list?

i think they're on the same APR list.

And that's bad. FSU is 6th worst in FBS. Only ones worse- UMass, La Tech, FIU, Ga Southern, and Idaho.

(10-23-2017 11:14 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 10:54 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:06 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  With the loss of the Ponsettia and teams becoming available early. Could it be possibly for a no APR bowl season?

As Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!"

Barring upsets this weekend, we could have 10 more teams already ineligible after Week 9 than we had at the same point last season. There are going to be a lot of teams in the 5-6 win group this year. It's going down to the wire again.

but more teams overall AND 2 fewer slots..

right now we have 28 eligible. Another 20 have 5 wins. 25 have 4 wins. So 73 teams are between 0-2 wins away from being bowl eligible. So that's not bad. Only need 78. Only have 35 teams with 5 or more losses.

I think something we're seeing is more truly dreadful teams. We have 15 teams with 0 or 1 win. Last year at this point- didn't have a single winless team and we had 8 1 loss teams. So that helps out considerably. So I think we're probably end of the year going to see fewer 4-8 and 3-9 teams and more 2-10 and 1-11 teams. That helps in making teams bowl eligible.

As you pointed out the number of really bad teams this year is high, higher than I can ever remember. 31 teams already have 5 losses with 5 weeks left in the regular season and all but eliminated from reaching 6 wins. That is nearly 1/4 of the FBS total.

(10-23-2017 11:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 11:23 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Does a team like FSU get a break due to the hurricane cancellations ? There likely record at this point will be 5-6. I believe the game they missed was UL Monroe. So they most likely would have been 6-6 if not for cancellation. Do 5-6 teams get in over 5-7 teams are are they all on the same APR list?

i think they're on the same APR list.

And that's bad. FSU is 6th worst in FBS. Only ones worse- UMass, La Tech, FIU, Ga Southern, and Idaho.

I would not be surprised if FSU now being out of the ACC race does not re-schedule ULM to try and keep the bowl streak alive if the game is needed.

(10-23-2017 11:23 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Does a team like FSU get a break due to the hurricane cancellations ? There likely record at thiUS s point will be 5-6. I believe the game they missed was UL Monroe. So they most likely would have been 6-6 if not for cancellation. Do 5-6 teams get in over 5-7 teams are are they all on the same APR list?

Actually, ULM is willing to play FSU so no, there should be no special consideration given to FSU. They both have an open date on the last week of the season.

Last year, a waiver was extended to USA. LSU cancelled a game scheduled in November so they could play a make up game with UF resulting from a cancellation in September. USA tried to offer its own stadium for the game in September, tried to get a home or away game with any FBS team that still had any dates to give (UMass had one, because they played at Hawai'i, but refused the game). And we also know that UF cancelled the game because they didn't want to play LSU that particular weekend anyway.

This scenario is not applicable to FSU. They can easily simply play ULM on the first weekend of December.

(10-23-2017 12:26 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 11:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 11:23 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Does a team like FSU get a break due to the hurricane cancellations ? There likely record at this point will be 5-6. I believe the game they missed was UL Monroe. So they most likely would have been 6-6 if not for cancellation. Do 5-6 teams get in over 5-7 teams are are they all on the same APR list?

i think they're on the same APR list.

And that's bad. FSU is 6th worst in FBS. Only ones worse- UMass, La Tech, FIU, Ga Southern, and Idaho.

I would not be surprised if FSU now being out of the ACC race does not re-schedule ULM to try and keep the bowl streak alive if the game is needed.

ULM actually has Dec 2nd open whereas most of the SBC is playing that day so this is totally doable.

8 Four win teams that have the best path

Houston - ECU and @Tulane
Northwestern - Purdue. Minn and @Ill
Iowa - Minn and Purde
FAU - ODU and UMASS
UAB - Rice and UTEP (Big Loss to Charlotte has this in question)
UTSA - UTEP and UAB (UAB vs UTSA may decide a bowl team)
Wyoming - UNM and SJSU
Akr St - NMSU, USA, ULM

(10-23-2017 12:26 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I would not be surprised if FSU now being out of the ACC race does not re-schedule ULM to try and keep the bowl streak alive if the game is needed.

If it comes down to that, ULM should force FSU to sweeten the pot to play that game, LOL.

BTW, does FSU get to count a win over FCS Delaware State? If not, it is going to go right down to the wire as far as becoming bowl eligible is concerned. They could lose to Boston College this week for crissakes.

FSU hasn't missed a bowl game since 1981, one of the most remarkable streaks in college sports. I was in high school then, that was a LONG time ago, LOL.

They are 25-9-1 in those games, including wins in 11 major/BCS/NY6 bowls.

(10-23-2017 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 12:26 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I would not be surprised if FSU now being out of the ACC race does not re-schedule ULM to try and keep the bowl streak alive if the game is needed.

If it comes down to that, ULM should force FSU to sweeten the pot to play that game, LOL.

BTW, does FSU get to count a win over FCS Delaware State? If not, it is going to go right down to the wire as far as becoming bowl eligible is concerned. They could lose to Boston College this week for crissakes.

FSU hasn't missed a bowl game since 1981, one of the most remarkable streaks in college sports. I was in high school then, that was a LONG time ago, LOL.

They are 25-9-1 in those games, including wins in 11 major/BCS/NY6 bowls.

I think in this case, ULM should just play the game on Dec 2 and not ask for additional considerations, but just let everyone know that they're an 'honest broker' and are willing to work with teams.

For ULM, this can only HELP their bowl chances. I think I would like a big fat check and the chance to play a sputtering Florida State coming off games at Florida and Clemson.

If this was my team (USA) and not ULM, hell yea I want a shot at Florida State this year.

I don't see why ULM wouldn't want to play that game--it's the paycheck they were banking on collecting. ULM has the lowest budget of of all of FBS so they could use the cash. They are also available. The only reason I see Florida St not wanting to play that game is if they are already bowl eligible.