(10-28-2017 10:40 AM)tigerjohn Wrote: SMU was given a gift when Tulsa's receiver touchdown was taken away for a brief high stepping into the end zone. I've never seen a touchdown taken away for high stepping into the end zone . SMU can thank the refs for that win.
The receiver should know better not to do that on the 18 yard line. The penalty was the correct call per rules. The flag was thrown before he even reached touchdown. Can't blame the ref, blame the low IQ receiver that cost Tulsa the game.
Hard to argue your statement assuming what you have stated is correct. Of course some will probably make posts that the ref shouldn't call that because it affects the outcome (which I disagree). If it is a rule you call it, otherwise, the argument should be to change the rule next season. All rules are arbitrary at some point 3 strikes your out (why not 4?), or a field goal is 3 points (why not 4?).
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2017 04:54 PM by murphster.)
(10-27-2017 11:49 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote: Nah, the AAC champion can have even one more loss than the next-best G5 conference champion, the CFP Committee is still taking the AAC champion this season.
What if Memphis were to lose to Tulsa or SMU, but SMU loses to Navy... Then let’s say Memphis wins the west and beats an undefeated UCF team. Does the CFP have to choose the AAC champ to go to a NY6 bowl, or could they choose a 1 loss UCF?
It is unlikely any other school would make it outside of the AAC top three. The biggest issue would be if another school won our league. An 11-2 SMU team would be ok.
They will take the highest rated conference champion. I am guessing that means if a 10-1 UCF team lost to a three loss Memphis team for example we would be the conference champion but possibly lower rated than other conference champions.
Right now...coaches poll...
14 USF
17 UCF
26 Memphis 32 Colo State
34 Boise State
35 Navy
36 Marshall
40 App State
41 Troy
One of the above is likely to win its conference. Likely more than one. Television and the committee at this point have to really be hoping that USF and UCF stay undefeated until they play each other and we do not drop another game either. That would give them a high profile AAC title game with the winner guaranteed to make the Peach or the like. And in the case of a UCF only, perhaps a distant outside shot at being the 4 seed in the playoff. Simply think their schedule has been much tougher than USF, so them having wins over Memphis twice, USF, Maryland and Navy might give them a chance.
And a revenge game for us would be sweet, but would be happy to goat stomp USF instead for the right to make Atlanta. Someone else sneaks in and I bet Boise State sneaks up.
(10-27-2017 11:49 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote: Nah, the AAC champion can have even one more loss than the next-best G5 conference champion, the CFP Committee is still taking the AAC champion this season.
What if Memphis were to lose to Tulsa or SMU, but SMU loses to Navy... Then let’s say Memphis wins the west and beats an undefeated UCF team. Does the CFP have to choose the AAC champ to go to a NY6 bowl, or could they choose a 1 loss UCF?
It is unlikely any other school would make it outside of the AAC top three. The biggest issue would be if another school won our league. An 11-2 SMU team would be ok.
They will take the highest rated conference champion. I am guessing that means if a 10-1 UCF team lost to a three loss Memphis team for example we would be the conference champion but possibly lower rated than other conference champions.
Right now...coaches poll...
14 USF
17 UCF
26 Memphis
32 Colo State
34 Boise State
35 Navy
36 Marshall
40 App State
41 Troy
One of the above is likely to win its conference. Likely more than one. Television and the committee at this point have to really be hoping that USF and UCF stay undefeated until they play each other and we do not drop another game either. That would give them a high profile AAC title game with the winner guaranteed to make the Peach or the like. And in the case of a UCF only, perhaps a distant outside shot at being the 4 seed in the playoff. Simply think their schedule has been much tougher than USF, so them having wins over Memphis twice, USF, Maryland and Navy might give them a chance.
And a revenge game for us would be sweet, but would be happy to goat stomp USF instead for the right to make Atlanta. Someone else sneaks in and I bet Boise State sneaks up.
Upon reading this yesterday, I just knew Houston was going to beat South Florida and screw it up. Oh well, it makes our win look better.
I guess we can hope for the AAC title game in Orlando against an undefeated Central Florida.
(10-28-2017 01:55 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote: The receiver should know better not to do that on the 18 yard line. The penalty was the correct call per rules. The flag was thrown before he even reached touchdown. Can't blame the ref, blame the low IQ receiver that cost Tulsa the game.
God forbid anyone have any fun on a football field.
I agree Nigel. That's a bad college rule, like the one allowing the head coach to call 3 consecutive TOs to ice the kicker. Happened to us, and again in the Ole Miss - Arky game today.
Penalize the team of the ensuing kickoff, if need be, not call the play back.
Can have fun after reaching touchdown. The receiver was just plainly taunting on the 18 yard line. That's bad sportsmanship. Just simply run to the touchdown and then celebrate. If refs allowed this taunting before touchdown, then it will happen all the time.
Can't penalize the kickoff if it was called before the receiver even reached the touchdown.
My point is it doesn't affect the current play, like a clip or a hold. Unsportsmanlike penalty. Complete the current play, penalize on next. And fine with me to kick the player out, or suspend him for half the next game, like targeting. But a taunt shouldn't affect the outcome of the game, IMO.
They changed the rule a few years back, IIRC. Any taunting like that used to be assessed on the XP or on the kickoff. They changed the rule to allow it to be assessed on the play at the point of offense. The change was silly in my opinion. But it is the current rule.
(10-28-2017 04:10 PM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote: If refs allowed this taunting before touchdown, then it will happen all the time.
Can't penalize the kickoff if it was called before the receiver even reached the touchdown.
The rule absolutely did used to penalize the kickoff. Then it was changed. It did not happen all the time the old way. Coaches have a way to correct that behavior.
(10-28-2017 03:54 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: God forbid anyone have any fun on a football field.
I agree Nigel. That's a bad college rule, like the one allowing the head coach to call 3 consecutive TOs to ice the kicker. Happened to us, and again in the Ole Miss - Arky game today.
Penalize the team of the ensuing kickoff, if need be, not call the play back.
Can have fun after reaching touchdown. The receiver was just plainly taunting on the 18 yard line. That's bad sportsmanship. Just simply run to the touchdown and then celebrate. If refs allowed this taunting before touchdown, then it will happen all the time.
Can't penalize the kickoff if it was called before the receiver even reached the touchdown.
My point is it doesn't affect the current play, like a clip or a hold. Unsportsmanlike penalty. Complete the current play, penalize on next. And fine with me to kick the player out, or suspend him for half the next game, like targeting. But a taunt shouldn't affect the outcome of the game, IMO.
They changed the rule a few years back, IIRC. Any taunting like that used to be assessed on the XP or on the kickoff. They changed the rule to allow it to be assessed on the play at the point of offense. The change was silly in my opinion. But it is the current rule.
I know. Just saying the rule is bad. And the official should have the common sense not to call it on a game-changing play.
(10-31-2017 11:38 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote: No, either it's a rule or it's not. You either call it on the GW TD and the TD to make it 42.0, or you don't call it at all.
Disagree. Officials have a lot of dialogue with coaches and players during the game. They could call holding every other play if they wanted to. We could all find instances of players 'taunting' before crossing the goal line with no flag thrown. Nobody goes to games to see penalties called. Officials need to show some discretion.
Funniest ref call was the UTK-UK entire teams getting assessed offsetting personal fouls in the first half last week. Second personal foul leads to ejection, so 5 guys ended up getting ejected after that call.
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